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Evidence Suggests Kerry's Silver Star Was Not Earned (UPDATED and more damning)
May 11, 2004
| The Bandit
Posted on 05/11/2004 3:08:57 PM PDT by The Bandit
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This is the latest update to my original article. More info uncovered and included.
To: The Bandit
bump for later read
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posted on
05/11/2004 3:12:20 PM PDT
by
Feiny
(This post ain't for everybody, just the sexy freepers.)
To: The Bandit
Forgive me for saying so, but this seems like ancient history. I'd rather rally support for President Bush based on what the president will do in the future, and based on the scary things that Kerry has advocated during his life as a politician. Whatever happened in the 1960's (good and bad) should probably be burried, IMHO.
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posted on
05/11/2004 3:12:37 PM PDT
by
68skylark
(.)
To: The Bandit
Can we say Kerry shot himself in the foot on this one?
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posted on
05/11/2004 3:12:45 PM PDT
by
Andy from Beaverton
(I only vote Republican to stop the Democrats)
To: The Bandit
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posted on
05/11/2004 3:14:27 PM PDT
by
backhoe
(--30--)
To: The Bandit
bttt
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posted on
05/11/2004 3:15:25 PM PDT
by
Mr. K
(ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,this is like liberal logic,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø))
To: The Bandit
Michael Moore is available to make a movie about this --
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posted on
05/11/2004 3:18:10 PM PDT
by
wjersey
To: The Bandit
Good Job! Raises lots of questions.
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posted on
05/11/2004 3:25:14 PM PDT
by
FR_addict
To: Mr. K
Clearly, Kerry wrote himself up for the award since there were no witnesses and no supervision of Kerry. While it may not make a difference in the campaign, I like to know the truth anyway. He violated SOP by beaching the swift and endangered the boat and his crew. I can only think he saw an opportnity to embelish his career for the purposes of a later campaign for office. He must have known the VC was wounded enough to make the effort and not get killed. I have a feeling the area was swept pretty clean or you would not get Kerry jumping into a tree-lined shore line in search of a medal.
To: The Bandit
Quite intriguing. Look, with less material Lt. Col. Hackworth got Adm. Borda to blow his brains out. Why didn't Zumwalt do likewise knowing what he did about this situation ~ which was even worse ~ giving somebody a far higher award which was not justified certainly must have preyed on his mind.
Since he didn't pass away until 2000, certainly he had ample opportunity to repent properly.
Or maybe not all the Navy guys take these awards all that seriously (Hmmmm?! ~ I am beginning to suspect) so why award anything to those people?
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posted on
05/11/2004 3:30:30 PM PDT
by
muawiyah
To: The Bandit
Very interesting read.
IMHO, the only way that this dog is going to hunt is if the media brings it up (instead of the Republicans or the RNC).
You already saw how FJK responded to Gibson and GMA, snapping at Gibson, saying that the GOP was behind it, demeaning the President's Guard Service (after he defended Bubba over his lack of service, and said that who served or didn't serve was not an issue), even going as far as to say that liberal ABC was "doing the work of the Republican National Party."
I actually might have a better idea. If this slime so much as dares to try to use this guy's death to his political advantage, make sure that he gets called on it. Pool resources and get the word out. I want this slime, and those like him, defeaated by our President in a manner that will make Reagan/Mondale look like Bush/Gore.
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posted on
05/11/2004 3:31:37 PM PDT
by
Christian4Bush
(I approve this message: character and integrity matter. Bush/Cheney for '04.)
To: The Bandit
read later
To: 68skylark
Except as it reflects upon the charecter of the individual
involved. Any man willing to tamper with evidence--or
fabricate a record to achieve promotion or benefits not
earned at one point in life--will nost likely revert to such
practices under pressure as they get older.What Kerry claims
to have done in Vietnam matters in this campaign because he
has raised the issue of being a real war hero.If his record proves to be other than what he has claimed seems IMO indicative that such a one ought not be trusted to lead a
nation.
To: backhoe
John I think you are a PHONY!~ Now ask me how I dare...
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posted on
05/11/2004 3:35:57 PM PDT
by
JamesA
( The more you try to change my convictions the more resolved I am to keep them.)
To: 68skylark
Whatever happened in the 1960's (good and bad) should probably be burried, IMHO.You have a point, until you consider that Kerry has an entire history, starting before he went to Vietnam until today that is very consistent. When having a President and Commander in Chief is more important than any other time in history, it certainly helps to understand Kerry's past. People only have the history of the candidates to predict the future. On the other hand, people on FR don't need to be reminded why not to vote to Kerry or to vote for Bush. It does help to be informed to counter anyone that says that Kerry will be an better Command in Chief than Bush because Kerry served in Vietnam. People do not discount Kerry even when Bush has been Commander in Chief for nearly four years. This is exactly what the Kerry Campaign has in mind when they pose Kerry as a war hero. The evidence show exactly the opposite. Over 200 men that served with Kerry on Swift Boats say that Kerry is unfit to Commander in Chief. The liberal press is not willing to report this, so it is incumbent that people like us on FR tell our neighbors, armed with the truth, so our neighbors can tell their neigbors until there is no one except the communists voting for Kerry.
To: The Bandit
bump
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posted on
05/11/2004 3:39:41 PM PDT
by
jonno
(We are NOT a democracy - though we are democratic. We ARE a constitutional republic.)
To: 68skylark
"I'd rather rally support for President Bush based on what the president will do in the future, and based on the scary things that Kerry has advocated during his life as a politician. "
I TOTALLY agree with you.
"Whatever happened in the 1960's (good and bad) should probably be burried, IMHO."
In theory, I agree. Perhaps as soon as Kerry stopps digging up what should be buried, it will become a non-issue.
As we have seen, however, Kerry really has nothing else to run on EXCEPT for this. Notice every time someone questions him on anything, particularly on his own words about that time, he immediately jumps into HOOOOOOOOOOOW DAAAAAAAAAAAARE YOOOOOU QUESSSSSSSSSTIONNNNNNNNN MY PATTTTTTTTTRIOTISM! I'M NOOOOOOOOOOT GOING TO STTTTTTTTTAND FOOOOOR IT!"
So to answer your question, I think that the issue will be buried either when Kerry stops trying to run on it, or when he loses in November. Personally, I'm betting on the latter scenario.
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posted on
05/11/2004 3:43:04 PM PDT
by
Christian4Bush
(I approve this message: character and integrity matter. Bush/Cheney for '04.)
To: The Bandit
Thank you for this.
Every time I see Kerry the old phrase "oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive" runs through my head.
To: 68skylark
Forgive me for saying so, but this seems like ancient history. I'd rather rally support for President Bush based on what the president will do in the future, and based on the scary things that Kerry has advocated during his life as a politician. Whatever happened in the 1960's (good and bad) should probably be burried, IMHO. You're right!! It is ancient history. However, it is John Kerry who brought up the Vietnam thing, keeps flogging his Vietname service and his fake Purple Hearts and Silver Star, and who keeps questioning the President's service during the Vietnam War period. If John Kerry wants us to shut up about his crappy record in Vietnam and thereafter, then he needs to shut up about it.
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posted on
05/11/2004 3:45:55 PM PDT
by
Spiff
(Don't believe everything you think.)
To: The Bandit
B&B.
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posted on
05/11/2004 3:50:24 PM PDT
by
Stentor
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