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The Saddam-9/11 Link Confirmed
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| 5/11/04
| Laurie Mylroie
Posted on 05/11/2004 7:13:09 AM PDT by TrebleRebel
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To: TrebleRebel
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posted on
05/11/2004 7:35:14 AM PDT
by
chmst
To: TrebleRebel
We know Saddam worked with the PLO and other terrorists, he funded them. He at LEAST knew that 9/11 was coming.
Less than two months before 9/11/01, the state-controlled Iraqi newspaper “Al-Nasiriya” carried a column headlined, “American, an Obsession called Osama Bin Ladin.” (July 21, 2001)
In the piece, Baath Party writer Naeem Abd Muhalhal predicted that bin Laden would attack the US “with the seriousness of the Bedouin of the desert about the way he will try to bomb the Pentagon after he destroys the White House.”
The same state-approved column also insisted that bin Laden “will strike America on the arm that is already hurting,” and that the US “will curse the memory of Frank Sinatra every time he hears his songs” – an apparent reference to the Sinatra classic, “New York, New York”.
(Link below)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1106657/posts?page=1 List of newspaper article in the 90's which mention the world's concern regarding the growing relationship between OBL and Saddam:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/946809/posts?page=1 Son of Saddam coordinates OBL activities:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/951911/posts The AQ connection (excellent):
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/944617/posts?page=2 Western Nightmare:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/alqaida/story/0,12469,798270,00.html Saddam's link to OBL:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/866105/posts NYT: Iraq and AQ agree to cooperate:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/985906/posts Document linking them:
http://tennessean.com/nation-world/archives/03/06/34908297.shtml?Element_ID=34908297 Iraq and terrorism - no doubt about it:
http://www.nationalreview.com/robbins/robbins091903.asp A federal judge rules there are links:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/986293/posts Wall Street Journal on Iraq and AQ:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/987129/posts Iraq and Iran contact OBL:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/981055/posts More evidence:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=%2Fnews%2F2003%2F04%2F27%2Fwalq27.xml Saddam's AQ connection:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/969032/posts Further connections:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1007969/posts What a court of law said about the connections:
http://usinfo.state.gov/topical/pol/terror/98110402.htm Some miscellaneous stuff on connections:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/989201/posts Saddam's Ambassador to Al Qaeda: (February 2004, Weekly Standard)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1083778/posts Yes - it's NewsMax but loaded with interesting bullet points.
http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/1097521/posts?page=1 Saddam's Fingerprints on NY Bombing (Wall Street Journal, June 1993)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1115387/posts Colin Powell: Iraq and AQ Partners for Years (CNN, February 2003)
http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/02/05/sprj.irq.alqaeda.links/ The Iraq-Al Qaeda Connections (September 2003, Richard Miniter)
http://www.techcentralstation.com/092503F.html Oil for Food Scandal Ties Iraq and Al Qaeda (June 2003)
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1125899/posts Saddam and OBL Make a Pact (The New Yorker, February 2003):
http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/?030210fa_fact Al Qaeda's Poison Gas (Wall Street Journal, April 2004):
http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110005016 Wolfowitz Says Saddam behind 9/11 Attacks:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/921398/posts Saddam behind first WTC attack - PBS, Laurie Mylroie:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/gunning/interviews/mylroie.html Growing Evidence of Saddam and Al Qaeda Link, The Weekly Standard, July 2003:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/946997/posts Qusay Hussein Coordinated Iraq special operations with Bin Laden Terrorist Activities, Yossef Bodansky, National Press Club
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/951911/posts The Western Nightmare: Saddam and Bin Laden vs. the Rest of the World, The Guardian Unlimited:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/alqaida/story/0,12469,798270,00.html Saddam Link to Bin Laden, Julian Borger, The Guardian, February 1999
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/866105/posts The Al Qaeda Connection, The Weekly Standard, July 2003
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/944617/posts?page=2 Cheney lectures Russert on Iraq/911 Link, September 2003:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/982713/posts No Question About It, National Review, September 2003
http://www.nationalreview.com/robbins/robbins091903.asp Iraq: A Federal Judges Point of View
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/986293/posts Mohammed's Account links Iraq to 9/11 and OKC:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/987075/posts Free Republic Thread that mentions so me books Freepers might be interested in on this topic:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/977221/posts?page=8 The Proof that Saddam Worked with AQ, The Telegraph, April 2003:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=%2Fnews%2F2003%2F04%2F27%2Fwalq27.xml Saddam's AQ Connection, The Weekly Standard, September 2003
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/969032/posts September 11 Victims Sue Iraq:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/2237332.stm Osama's Best Friend: The Further Connections Between Al Qaeda and Saddam, The Weekly Standard, November 2003
Terrorist Behind 9/11 Attacks Trained by Saddam, The Telegraph, December 2003
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1007969/posts James Woolsey Links Iraq and AQ, CNN Interview, March 2004, Also see Posts #34 and #35
http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/1104121/posts A Geocities Interesting Web Site with maps and connections:
http://www.geocities.com/republican_strategist/Iraq-Bin-Laden.html Bin Laden indicted in federal court, read down to find information that Bin Laden agreed to not attack Iraq and to work cooperatively with Iraq:
http://usinfo.state.gov/topical/pol/terror/98110402.htm Case Closed, The Weekly Standard, November 03
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/003/378fmxyz.asp CBS - Lawsuit: Iraq involved in 9/11:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/09/05/september11/main520874.shtml Exploring Iraq's Involvement in pre-9/11 Acts, The Indianapolis Star:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/746225/posts The Iraq/AQ Connection: Richard Minister again
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/989201/posts Militia Defector says Baghdad trained Al Qaeda fighters in chemical weapons, July 2002
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/743892/posts The Clinton View of Iraq/AQ Ties, The Weekly Standard, December 2003
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/003/527uwabl.asp Saddam Controlled the Camps (Iraq/AQ Ties): The London Observer, November 01
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/741676/posts Saddam's Terror Ties that Critics Ignore, National Review, October 2003:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1005579/posts Tape Shows General Wesley Clark linking Iraq and AQ:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1056113/posts Freeper list of links between AQ and Iraq:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/850346/posts Salman Pak (Aviation Weekly)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/865435/posts
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posted on
05/11/2004 7:38:55 AM PDT
by
Peach
To: Peach
Czech authorities have discovered that al-Ani’s appointment calendar shows a scheduled meeting on April 8, 2001 with a "Hamburg student." Is that the best they have, a notation in an appointment book? Not exactly a smoking gun. I would suggest that Laurie Mylroie review some of the far better info that you have posted rather than relying on "Hamburg Student" on which to rest her case.
No, I did not read the rest of her article. To be honest, the opening was so weak, that I felt it not worth further consideration.
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posted on
05/11/2004 7:56:53 AM PDT
by
Michael.SF.
('The weakest link in American security is the political link' - Thomas Sowell)
To: Peach
Fascinating links. Thanks.
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posted on
05/11/2004 8:02:24 AM PDT
by
dead
(I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
To: Peach
Great Links Post!!
BMP for later.
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posted on
05/11/2004 8:08:00 AM PDT
by
FlashBack
(USA...USA...USA...USA...USA...USA...USA...USA...USA...USA..USA...USA!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
To: Michael.SF.
Is that the best they have, a notation in an appointment book? Not exactly a smoking gun. It's called "evidence". Most evidence for something falls short of a "smoking gun". The idea that one always needs a "smoking gun" to prove something, is at best misleading, at worst a total red herring.
If I see you walking down the street in the opposite direction from the grocery store with a grocery bag from that grocery store in your hands, it's an entirely reasonable inference to say "you just went shopping". However, there's still no "smoking gun" (maybe it's just a coincidence? you brought the bag from home to the gym, it has your swimsuit and towel in it, and the gym just happens to be on the same street as the store? etc). But I don't care that there's no "smoking gun", I'm going to draw the most reasonable conclusion, that's how humans work, you see.
In this case, what we have is (1) Czech intelligence saying that Atta met with Iraqi intelligence in Prague, with corroboration, and (2) absolutely NO contradictory information whatsoever. Seriously, the FBI has issued a lot of pseudeo-denials ("we can't confirm it") but NOTHING which actually contradicts Prague's claim. The most reasonable inference to draw therefore is that Atta indeed met with Iraqi intelligence, unless/until we get information to the contrary. The most reasonable inference to draw from that, given that Atta was the 9/11 ringleader and was a nobody outside of his 9/11 plans, is that the meeting had something to do with 9/11 (what were they discussing? soccer? recipes?). Again, this is the most reasonable thing to conclude from this fact-set, unless/until some contradictory inference surfaces.
It's not a "smoking gun", but there rarely is such a thing, particularly in intelligence about secret things. If we waited for "smoking guns" before drawing conclusions about anything, we'd be paralyzed.
There's no "smoking gun" that Michael Jackson is a pedophile, does that mean you'd allow him to babysit your children?
To: Michael.SF.
Czech authorities have discovered that al-Ani’s appointment calendar shows a scheduled meeting on April 8, 2001 with a "Hamburg student." Is that the best they have, a notation in an appointment book? Not exactly a smoking gun. I would suggest that Laurie Mylroie review some of the far better info that you have posted rather than relying on "Hamburg Student" on which to rest her case.
The above corroborates the eyewitness testimony that Atta (Hamburg student) met with Iraqi officials. See following:
In April 8, 2001, an informant for Czech counter-intelligence (known as BIS), observed al-Ani meet with an Arab man in his 20s at a restaurant outside Prague. Another informant in the Arab community reported that the man was a visiting student from Hamburg and that he was potentially dangerous.
To: Peach; Grampa Dave; backhoe; blam
Good stuff!
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posted on
05/11/2004 8:20:43 AM PDT
by
Ernest_at_the_Beach
(The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
To: TrebleRebel; BOBTHENAILER; NormsRevenge; Dog; Dog Gone; Cap Huff; Libertarianize the GOP; ...
saddam was connected bump!
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posted on
05/11/2004 8:23:02 AM PDT
by
Ernest_at_the_Beach
(The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
To: Michael.SF.
Is that the best they have, a notation in an appointment book?What would you like to see...video tape of the meeting? Digital pics?
Are you a lawyer?
Any lawyers out there...is a notation in an appointment book good enough evidence for an indictment/conviction?
To: TrebleRebel
"Many of those who made this professional error cannot bring themselves to acknowledge it; perhaps, they cannot even recognize it. They mock whomever presents information tying Iraq to the 9/11 attacks; discredit that information; and assert there is "no evidence." What they do not do is discuss in a rational way the significance of the information that is presented."
While a direct connection to 9/11 may be more problematic to prove, the fact that the media is also dismissing any links between Saddam and AQ is disturbing. What's so amazing about this is that the media, itself, was making these very connections before the Bush administration took office. Mylroie's right when she says the media now has a vested interest in ignoring any proof of a connection. Not only will it indict their favorite president...it will indict them and their incompetence.
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posted on
05/11/2004 8:38:10 AM PDT
by
cwb
(Liberals: Always fighting for social justice in all the wrong places.)
To: TrebleRebel; Ernest_at_the_Beach
To: cwb; Grampa Dave
Mylroie's right when she says the media now has a vested interest in ignoring any proof of a connection. Not only will it indict their favorite president...it will indict them and their incompetence. Right!
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posted on
05/11/2004 8:41:57 AM PDT
by
Ernest_at_the_Beach
(The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
To: muleskinner
Any lawyers out there...is a notation in an appointment book good enough evidence for an indictment/conviction? I'm no lawyer, but I watch them on TV! I wouldn't ask if it were enough to convict, because one circumstantial item would not be a preponderance of evidence. It might be enough to obtain a sarch warrant, though.
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posted on
05/11/2004 8:50:42 AM PDT
by
webheart
To: Dr. Frank fan
I'm also sick of the "smoking gun" requirement.
2 + 2 = 4 even without a smoking gun.
To: Michael.SF.; Peach
Michael, try reading 2 or 3 of the links provided, and see if you still think the evidence is weak.
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posted on
05/11/2004 8:56:49 AM PDT
by
YepYep
To: TrebleRebel
BAM!
BAM! BAM! BAM!
BAM!
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posted on
05/11/2004 9:03:30 AM PDT
by
Enduring Freedom
(Jean Fidel Qaerry - Vietnam Veterans Against The War On Terrorism)
To: YepYep
You totally misunderstood what I said.
I said that the evidence of the notation in the appointment book was "weak" and that the evidence supplied by Peach was "far better."
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posted on
05/11/2004 9:28:04 AM PDT
by
Michael.SF.
('The weakest link in American security is the political link' - Thomas Sowell)
To: Dr. Frank fan; The_Victor; muleskinner
I am well aware that the proverbial 'smoking gun' (a term we should update by the way, perhaps to: 'stained dress') is not to be found in cases such as this. But read the headline again: "9/11 link confirmed"
Now read the "confirmation": 'A Hamburg Student'
Gentlemen, that is weak. That may be another bit of evidence, but it is not confirmation. BTW, I am not denying that there is a link, Peach states an excellent case, one which I agree with.
Had the headline said: 'Evidence of 9/11 link to Iraq continues to mount'
I would have had no problem. But the headline is misleading, which was my point.
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posted on
05/11/2004 9:37:14 AM PDT
by
Michael.SF.
('The weakest link in American security is the political link' - Thomas Sowell)
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