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To: Peach
Czech authorities have discovered that al-Ani’s appointment calendar shows a scheduled meeting on April 8, 2001 with a "Hamburg student."

Is that the best they have, a notation in an appointment book? Not exactly a smoking gun. I would suggest that Laurie Mylroie review some of the far better info that you have posted rather than relying on "Hamburg Student" on which to rest her case.

No, I did not read the rest of her article. To be honest, the opening was so weak, that I felt it not worth further consideration.

4 posted on 05/11/2004 7:56:53 AM PDT by Michael.SF. ('The weakest link in American security is the political link' - Thomas Sowell)
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To: Michael.SF.
Is that the best they have, a notation in an appointment book? Not exactly a smoking gun.

It's called "evidence". Most evidence for something falls short of a "smoking gun". The idea that one always needs a "smoking gun" to prove something, is at best misleading, at worst a total red herring.

If I see you walking down the street in the opposite direction from the grocery store with a grocery bag from that grocery store in your hands, it's an entirely reasonable inference to say "you just went shopping". However, there's still no "smoking gun" (maybe it's just a coincidence? you brought the bag from home to the gym, it has your swimsuit and towel in it, and the gym just happens to be on the same street as the store? etc). But I don't care that there's no "smoking gun", I'm going to draw the most reasonable conclusion, that's how humans work, you see.

In this case, what we have is (1) Czech intelligence saying that Atta met with Iraqi intelligence in Prague, with corroboration, and (2) absolutely NO contradictory information whatsoever. Seriously, the FBI has issued a lot of pseudeo-denials ("we can't confirm it") but NOTHING which actually contradicts Prague's claim. The most reasonable inference to draw therefore is that Atta indeed met with Iraqi intelligence, unless/until we get information to the contrary. The most reasonable inference to draw from that, given that Atta was the 9/11 ringleader and was a nobody outside of his 9/11 plans, is that the meeting had something to do with 9/11 (what were they discussing? soccer? recipes?). Again, this is the most reasonable thing to conclude from this fact-set, unless/until some contradictory inference surfaces.

It's not a "smoking gun", but there rarely is such a thing, particularly in intelligence about secret things. If we waited for "smoking guns" before drawing conclusions about anything, we'd be paralyzed.

There's no "smoking gun" that Michael Jackson is a pedophile, does that mean you'd allow him to babysit your children?

7 posted on 05/11/2004 8:14:56 AM PDT by Dr. Frank fan
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To: Michael.SF.
Czech authorities have discovered that al-Ani’s appointment calendar shows a scheduled meeting on April 8, 2001 with a "Hamburg student."

Is that the best they have, a notation in an appointment book? Not exactly a smoking gun. I would suggest that Laurie Mylroie review some of the far better info that you have posted rather than relying on "Hamburg Student" on which to rest her case.

The above corroborates the eyewitness testimony that Atta (Hamburg student) met with Iraqi officials. See following:

In April 8, 2001, an informant for Czech counter-intelligence (known as BIS), observed al-Ani meet with an Arab man in his 20s at a restaurant outside Prague. Another informant in the Arab community reported that the man was a visiting student from Hamburg and that he was potentially dangerous.

8 posted on 05/11/2004 8:19:11 AM PDT by The_Victor
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To: Michael.SF.
Is that the best they have, a notation in an appointment book?

What would you like to see...video tape of the meeting? Digital pics?
Are you a lawyer?

Any lawyers out there...is a notation in an appointment book good enough evidence for an indictment/conviction?

11 posted on 05/11/2004 8:23:09 AM PDT by muleskinner
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Michael, try reading 2 or 3 of the links provided, and see if you still think the evidence is weak.
17 posted on 05/11/2004 8:56:49 AM PDT by YepYep
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