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Hanging out the Troops (Hackworth Fails to Mention 17 Senators)
David Hackworth ^ | May 10, 2004 | David HAckworth

Posted on 05/10/2004 12:55:20 PM PDT by Republican Red

As an American citizen, I’m ashamed of the atrocities committed by Americans in Iraq. As a former professional soldier, I’m appalled not only by what has happened in the prisons there, but also by our military leadership. From the very top of the Pentagon down to the 320th Military Police Battalion, the brass have spent months covering up obscene behavior while placing the sole blame on Joe and Jill Grunt.

The damage to our country and our just war on terrorism is already devastating. And these war crimes not only diminish the sacrifices of our gallant soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan, they place the troops at even greater risk. But I’m certain that these abhorrent acts wouldn’t have occurred had the right kind of leadership been exercised by the chain of command.

In 1951 in Korea, I was told by my commanding officer to kill four POWs and refused his direct order. I well remembered the Nazi generals’ sorry rationale for their despicable conduct: “We were just following orders.” I would get booted out of the Army before I went that route.

In 1965 in Vietnam, I saw a very connected intelligence captain torturing a POW with a field-telephone wire attached to his testicles and decided my personal belief system outweighed his father’s four stars. When I told him I’d shoot him if he didn’t cease and desist, the atrocity came to a screeching halt.

On both occasions, I knew I had the moral right. I’d been taught from the first day I put on a U.S. Army uniform that American soldiers don’t follow unlawful orders and that it was my duty to stop or report an illegal act. I also believed strongly that when dealing with POWs, “There but for the grace of God go I.”

The vast majority of our regular soldiers today are likewise well-trained, well-disciplined and have similar values. And they’ve conducted themselves during the occupation of Iraq in a manner that aptly reflects what America is all about.

But, unfortunately, this is not always the case with many Army Reserve and National Guard units that have been deployed overseas since 9/11. In fact, I’ve worn out several drums beating the readiness issue during face-to-face meetings with the top brass. As far back as 1989, I warned Secretary of the Army Mike Stone about the generally sad shape of our Reserve and Guard components. But while he listened up, little was done to correct the systemic problems.

And now, because Mr. Rumsfeld and too many of his generals are into a fast-fix mode, the Pentagon has been dispatching Reserve and Guard units to combat zones even when they aren’t good to go. For example, I know of two enhanced infantry brigades that were rated as not combat-ready by Training Center commanders but were still sent to Iraq because boots were needed on the ground.

Retired Master Sgt. William Lawson, who brought the atrocity story to SFTT.org, says the 800th Military Police Brigade is a prime example: “My nephew Chip, who’s been charged with war crimes, wasn’t trained to be a prison guard. He was a part-time soldier marginally trained for even conventional military police (MP) work. But Chip was such a good soldier that he was selected to escort Gen. Myers, the chairman of the Joint Staff, when Chip was guarding the vice president right after 9/11. Myers gave him both great reviews and his personal coin.”

“The bedrock truth about the abuses at Abu Ghraib prison is that they were so easily preventable,” adds SFTT (Soldiers for the Truth) Vice President Roger Charles, who researched this story for CBS News. “But that prevention required a recognition that the top people in the 800th were ill-prepared, incompetent and uncaring. The evidence clearly shows that the Department of the Army mafia was more concerned about protecting the image of the brigade commanding general, Brig. Gen. Janis Karpinski, than holding her and her officers accountable for the terrible situation, which they allowed to fester for months.”

Speaking of Karpinski, she’s received only a mild slap on the wrist as the brass were circling the wagons. Not a good sign that our country’s commanders intend to own up to their respective roles in this catastrophic breach of human rights, which will have consequences we all will have to pay for many years to come.

Col. David H. Hackworth (USA Ret.) is SFTT.org co-founder and Senior Military Columnist for DefenseWatch magazine. For information on his many books, go to his home page at Hackworth.com, where you can sign in for his free weekly Defending America. Send mail to P.O. Box 11179, Greenwich, CT 06831. His newest book is “Steel My Soldiers’ Hearts.” © 2004 David H. Hackworth. Please send Feedback responses to dwfeedback@yahoo.com.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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To: ken5050
Actually, I forgot to close my sarcasm tag, too. ;-)

Overall I agree with your assessment. However, I am less confident than you appear to be, that the "Democrat senators were told" angle will get much airplay.

41 posted on 05/10/2004 1:36:30 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: RGSpincich
I've read about everybody from Rosa Klebb the brigade commander down to these guys and their families complaining that they didn't get enough resources and training from above. I'm curious...exactly how much time and money do you need to tell your people "Don't abuse your prisoners. Don't let anybody else abuse your prisoners. If you do, I will personally make sure that you become prisoners...but first, I will try to break my foot off in your backside"?

Especially since at least some of these tards were cops and corrections officers in their regular jobs.

42 posted on 05/10/2004 1:40:02 PM PDT by RichInOC (Note to the guards: prisoners are there for their punishment, not for your amusement.)
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To: AlbionGirl
When I told him I’d shoot him if he didn’t cease and desist

Ahh.... murder an American. Why shoot him soldier man ?

43 posted on 05/10/2004 1:41:59 PM PDT by DainBramage
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To: Republican Red
I've often wondered what turns people like HACKworth and pat buchanan into such bitter old men. The more they speak the easier it is to understand...they are without personal integrity or honor.
44 posted on 05/10/2004 1:42:39 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: Republican Red
......the brass have spent months covering up obscene behavior while placing the sole blame on Joe and Jill Grunt. .............Retired Master Sgt. William Lawson, who brought the atrocity story to SFTT.org, says the 800th Military Police Brigade is a prime example....

Bravo Sierra.

Retired Master Sgt. William Lawson did nothing except try to blackmail the U.S. Army by threatening to release copies of the photos unless the U.S. Army dropped charges against his nephew. The U.S. Army, to it's credit, refused to subvert the rule of law in the face of blackmail.

The abuse was first reported on 13 January 2004 by Spc. Joseph Darby.

U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM) Press Release Number: 04-01-43 announced on January 16, 2004 that an investigation was going to be conducted in a case dealing with detainee abuse. This was the first time that the press had heard anything about this and it was 3 days after the abuse had been reported.

An Army Regulation Article 15-6 investigation was commenced on 19 January 2004 and was an extremely extensive investigation with interviews of over 50 witnesses both American and Iraqi.

The Army Regulation Article 15-6 investigation concluded:

CONCLUSION:1. (U) Several US Army Soldiers have committed egregious acts and grave breaches of international law at Abu Ghraib/BCCF and Camp Bucca, Iraq. Furthermore, key senior leaders in both the 800th MP Brigade and the 205th MI Brigade failed to comply with established regulations, policies, and command directives in preventing detainee abuses at Abu Ghraib (BCCF) and at Camp Bucca during the period August 2003 to February 2004.

Hackworth is not only an accomplice to blackmail but also a liar.

45 posted on 05/10/2004 1:43:35 PM PDT by Polybius
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To: Dane
OMG! I'll never look at him quite the same! LOL!
46 posted on 05/10/2004 1:45:48 PM PDT by monkeywrench
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To: Dane
"To everybody, hackworth supposedly has a column coming out tomorrow on Joe Farah's World Nut(whoops excuse me)Net Daily."

Not surprising, their friend Kerry isn't doing so well so they'll ratchet up their attacks on the President. Despite all their rhetoric buchanan, farah and HACKworth don't give a damn about America...it's all about them.

47 posted on 05/10/2004 1:46:35 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: Republican Red
"I saw a very connected intelligence captain torturing a POW with a field-telephone wire attached to his testicles "

And since Hackworth was so much better trained than our current reserves, he immedialtely reported it to his superiors, just as they had so well trained him to do.

Is there a statute of limitations on war crimes?

48 posted on 05/10/2004 1:48:54 PM PDT by bayourod (Was Kerry one of the 17 Congressmen to whom Lawson sent torture pictures in March?)
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To: raptor29
I agree, adding that the only cuts in the federal budget that were mea ningfully were in the DoD. The Army lost two divisions because of those cuts but also because the Army brass was busy fighting the last war. So long as Clinton left them free to play their games, they were not inclined to fight for those divisions.
49 posted on 05/10/2004 1:49:14 PM PDT by RobbyS
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To: Republican Red
Can't wait for Rush's words to come true. Revenge is sweet!
50 posted on 05/10/2004 1:51:10 PM PDT by LADY J
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To: Republican Red
HACK ATTACKS

"Hack-hack-hack...hack-hack-hack-hack!"
51 posted on 05/10/2004 1:52:43 PM PDT by shezza
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To: CWOJackson
Not surprising, their friend Kerry isn't doing so well so they'll ratchet up their attacks on the President. Despite all their rhetoric buchanan, farah and HACKworth don't give a damn about America...it's all about them.

Exactly. Joe Farah is a malcontnent in the Buchanan/Harry Browne vein(or would the apt spelling be "vain"), who snipes from the sidelines, while proclaiming his one and only "true conservatism".

52 posted on 05/10/2004 1:55:34 PM PDT by Dane
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To: Republican Red
On both occasions, I knew I had the moral right

Who is this clown kidding? Name one war where the actual fighting is moral? The only thing you can say that is moral about war is the cause for war. Hackworth-less is a self promoting POS.
53 posted on 05/10/2004 1:56:22 PM PDT by John Lenin
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To: aft_lizard
Be careful, he'll label you a Nazi.
54 posted on 05/10/2004 1:57:16 PM PDT by highlandbreeze (....that others may live.)
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To: marron
=== We expect our soldiers to be men of character, and while that means you don't commit atrocities, it also means you don't lose sight of your moral war aims.


I think this cuts to part of the reason these actions are so unexcusable in this particular instance. The moral aims of a war whose self-defense measures are "preventive" at least leaves us touting ourselves a Liberators who have arrived to bring democracy and freedom and "rights" to Iraqis.

Because we've raised the bar on ourselves thus, it's only natural that things are different.

How many times have we been told this is a whole new kind of war? Chances are good all sorts of rules have changed.
55 posted on 05/10/2004 1:58:57 PM PDT by Askel5
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To: Republican Red
Would have been interesting to watch Hack interrogate chi coms and N Koreans during the Korean war and VC during his stint out at FSB Danger..

He wasn't known back in those days for his big belief in "human rights" for VC anyway...

so how come he is suddenly overcome by the desire to uphold the human rights of the Fedayeen and Saddam's SS
or those of the kind that gang raped our female soldiers who were mortally wounded at the time of their torture...by these same thugs...
56 posted on 05/10/2004 2:03:29 PM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: Askel5
Hack is so phoney he is pathetic. He reminds of John McCain, liberals have put him on a pedastool and it has gone to his head. His lame attempts at logic are a joke. There is NO MORAILTY in war, unless hack can claim that he never killed anyone he is just talking out of his ass.
57 posted on 05/10/2004 2:04:53 PM PDT by John Lenin
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To: Republican Red
Hackworth was suppose to name the 17 Senators...

Why ANYONE takes people like Hackworth seriously, I'll never understand. He is to the military what Larry Klayman is to the law, and Richard C. Hoagland is to science. Too many of these bit players are out there making a living by hawking their supposed inside knowledge to the gullible.

58 posted on 05/10/2004 2:05:00 PM PDT by Wolfstar (I'm sorry we ever had a prez who said truth depended on what the meaning of the word IS, is.)
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To: John Lenin
Speaking of John McCain...

He is on with John Gibson at this very moment making an *ss of himself. NUT JOB!
59 posted on 05/10/2004 2:08:12 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: kcvl
John McCain, another Mental Midget.
60 posted on 05/10/2004 2:11:17 PM PDT by John Lenin
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