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DREAM ACT???
Sen. Tom Harkin's Office

Posted on 04/23/2004 6:46:44 PM PDT by FlashBack

A letter back from one of my "esteemed" Senators:

I appreciate knowing your views on the Development Relief and Education for Alien Minors (DREAM) Act. I am pleased to be a co-sponsor of the DREAM Act, which will help thousands of undocumented students who wish to pursue a college education. An estimated 60,000 undocumented immigrants graduate from American high schools each year. Even though many of these graduates have lived in the United States for years and likely had no part in any decision to immigrate illegally, it is very difficult for them to attend college. Instead, they face possible deportation. Federal law strongly discourages states from granting in-state college tuition rates to undocumented immigrants. Further, these students cannot legally work, are ineligible for federal student aid and rarely are able to secure private loans. These severe roadblocks have deprived our nation of future leaders, productive workers and a great source of tax revenue. The DREAM Act would provide relief to many of the students facing these problems. It would repeal a provision of federal law that makes it costly for states to grant in-state tuition to undocumented immigrants. Also, it would provide a mechanism by which some undocumented students who are long-term U.S. residents could become permanent residents. By passing the DREAM Act, we can give new hope to many immigrants who now often face an uncertain future after they graduate from high school. It would be a great step in enhancing the lives of these young people, while at the same time helping to contribute to a more prosperous and diverse nation. As this legislation progresses through the Senate, I will certainly keep your views in mind. Again, thanks for e-mailing your views to me. Please don't hesitate to let me know how you feel on any issue that concerns you.

Sincerely,

Tom Harkin United States Senator

Can we at least expect someone to be a citizen of this coutry BEFORE we give them aid for school, driver's licenses, insurance, housing, etc.etc.etc?????????? There are illegal immigrants graduating from our high schools??? WTF is up with this?? We NEED to get a handle on this whole situation people, if it wasn't so serious it'd be a joke!

I e-mailed Sen.'s Harkin and Grassley about my cincerns about this mis-legislation (and you can see it's effect on Harkin...0....), please contact your Senators on this issue as well...what a farce!!!


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KEYWORDS: aliens; dreamact; education; illegalimmigration
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1 posted on 04/23/2004 6:46:44 PM PDT by FlashBack
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To: FlashBack
"An estimated 60,000 undocumented immigrants graduate from American high schools each year."

At $8000 a head thats 480 million dollars right out of the "under funded" public school system.

2 posted on 04/23/2004 7:05:34 PM PDT by Falcon4.0
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To: FlashBack
DREAM Act, which will help thousands of undocumented students who wish to pursue a college education. An estimated 60,000 undocumented immigrants graduate from American high schools each year. Even though many of these graduates have lived in the United States for years and likely had no part in any decision to immigrate illegally, it is very difficult for them to attend college.

So.....who's paying for all this, huh? HUH? Harkin himself!????

BTW, I hear those in Washington say there's not enough money for American tax slaves to get relief from their oppressive tax burdens. They'll just have to keep working two jobs to pay their bills.

Unelect Tom Harkin. Do it for your country.

3 posted on 04/23/2004 7:28:22 PM PDT by concerned about politics ( Liberals are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: FlashBack
I have NEVER been one to take Tom Harkin's side.

I want to point out that "International Student" fees are considerably higher than In State and Non Resident fees.

It's my understanding this would allow those students who immigrated, illeagally, with the parents to slip under the requirement to pay the International Student fees. Somewhere along the line, I also read that these students would be included in the "Diversity Count", required by the Feds in order for our public universities to receive federal assistance.

When I first read about this legislation, the writer pointed out that there were no scholarships involved. The dream act would only lower the tuition from the International fee to the Resident fee. The person who was quoted in the first article said these students would have to fund themselves or apply/receive scholarships.

This business of granting them citizenship is all NEWS to me. That information was not in previous info I've read on this matter. I have a problem with allowing these students to step in line ahead of those who are attempting to become citizens in the routine manner.
4 posted on 04/23/2004 7:29:45 PM PDT by Iowa Granny (Impersonating June Cleaver since 1967)
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To: Falcon4.0
At $8000 a head thats 480 million dollars right out of the "under funded" public school system.

$10,000 each in NY. Now they want to pay for their college, too?
With our paychecks? Isn't that pleasant!!!!

5 posted on 04/23/2004 7:31:12 PM PDT by concerned about politics ( Liberals are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: FlashBack
Be patriotic. Unelect Tom Harkin. Do it for your country.
6 posted on 04/23/2004 7:50:18 PM PDT by concerned about politics ( Liberals are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: concerned about politics
I'm doing what I can!!!!!
They ran Ganske(?) against Harkin last go-round...I was actually pushing for Salier(?)spl. I hope he runs again, very conservitive, family oriented, ex-marine...
Harkins non-answers rank right up there with the best from Kerry and the Clintons...and when he does speak he comes up with this sort of stuff!!
They like to scream about NCLB being under-funded and then they want us to pay for this??!!??
7 posted on 04/23/2004 8:30:15 PM PDT by FlashBack (USA...USA...USA...USA...USA...USA...USA...USA...USA...USA..USA...USA!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: FlashBack
By passing the DREAM Act, we can give new hope to many immigrants who now often face an uncertain future after they graduate from high school.

Barf. How about a "Dream Act" for American workers and citizens??? We dream of not having to subsidize all of that cheap labor!
8 posted on 04/23/2004 8:30:34 PM PDT by ETERNAL WARMING (He is faithful!)
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To: FlashBack
of undocumented students

He means illegal aliens, or criminals breaking our immigration laws, doesnt he?

I guess that the Dream Act would have helpfully paid for the flying lessons of the 9/11 terrorists, seeing how they too were undocumented immigrants.

9 posted on 04/23/2004 9:26:09 PM PDT by lowbridge ("You are an American. You are my brother. I would die for you." -Kurdish Sergeant)
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To: FlashBack
it is very difficult for them to attend college

There are colleges in Mexico.

10 posted on 04/23/2004 9:26:41 PM PDT by knuthom
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To: Falcon4.0
Harken is a vicious, evil, lying monster.
11 posted on 04/23/2004 9:54:01 PM PDT by Irene Adler
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To: knuthom
"There are colleges in Mexico."

Yes, indeedy. However, ask some liberal if there will be reciprocity--equal access and 'citizen tuition' for US citizens to attend Mexican colleges.

No Dream there.
12 posted on 04/24/2004 8:48:14 AM PDT by wildbill
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To: knuthom

Here's the problem - and I have specific, personal experience via a friend of my daughter's. Her friend - a smart, hardworking, devout kid - is brought across the border at two. Finds out at seventeen, when he asks his mom to sign his drivers license papers, that he's illegal. Not looking for aid, but an honor student with college dreams, he's denied entry at any price because, in this state, that's how it works (different state to state.) Now you can say it's his parent's fault, he should go back, etc. But he doesn't even speak Spanish! What exactly is he to go back to? This is a kid who could make a real contribution - as a teacher, a doctor, what have you - he's got the brains and the character. But because of his parents choice, he's stymied. So we punish the innocent? Posters, stop your knee-jerk, and to my mind frankly unAmerican anti immigrant rants, and think it through. The system as it is doesn't work. It's time to fix it. Hatch is right.


13 posted on 06/10/2004 5:35:25 AM PDT by Lovingthis
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To: Falcon4.0

Illegal aliens are provided more social services than citizens. Isn't that a kick in the shorts.


14 posted on 06/10/2004 5:38:36 AM PDT by IamConservative (A man who stands for nothing will fall for anything.)
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To: Lovingthis
Her friend - a smart, hardworking, devout kid - is brought across the border at two. Finds out at seventeen, when he asks his mom to sign his drivers license papers, that he's illegal. Not looking for aid, but an honor student with college dreams, he's denied entry at any price because, in this state, that's how it works

So what?

There are lots of people in the world who are f*cked because they come from turd world socialist cesspools. Why on earth should this particular benefit burglar get to rape money from my children?

Because your daughter knows him?

18 posted on 08/01/2004 8:47:43 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Kerry and Edwards aren't catching on. Hope is on the way!)
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To: DoSomeResearch
They are being punished for their parent’s actions.

If residency in your own particular third world cesspool is a punishment, then 6 billion humans are being punished RIGHT NOW.

Do you feel guilty? Do you want to move them here?

I don't, and I don't. Your particular crimalien is no different from a beggar in the street in Lahore or Jakarta, and there is no reason to accord him a benefit that does not also argue for rescuing the aforementioned beggars.

19 posted on 08/01/2004 8:51:56 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Kerry and Edwards aren't catching on. Hope is on the way!)
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To: Falcon4.0

It's worse, the grad rate from HS for Hispanics is under 50% in high-population areas.


20 posted on 08/01/2004 8:52:49 AM PDT by Old Professer (A faint light is often made brilliant by the darkness.)
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