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Pat Tillman killed in Afghanistan
MSNBC ^ | 04/23/2004

Posted on 04/23/2004 7:10:38 AM PDT by jtminton

Edited on 04/23/2004 7:24:22 AM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]

Ex NFL Cardinal Pat Tillman has been killed in Afghanistan. Details unknown.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; arizonacardinal; arizonastate; army; fallen; fightingtillmans; hero; iraq; nfl; pattillman; ranger; soldier; somegaveall; thegreatestgift; tillman
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To: timpad
I'm an ASU alumnus, let's get it done.

Thanks John HK for the idea.
401 posted on 04/23/2004 9:58:40 AM PDT by reluctantwarrior (Strength and Honor, just call me Buzzkill for short......)
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To: jtminton
This is terrible news. He was such a wonderful role model.
402 posted on 04/23/2004 9:59:19 AM PDT by Eva
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To: jtminton
Look at it this way: God would probably rather hang out with Tillman way more than he'd want to hang out with Kennedy.

Something tells me Kennedy won't be seeing much of God after he finally expires.
403 posted on 04/23/2004 9:59:41 AM PDT by CoolPapaBoze
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To: Glenn
How sad (as are they all). He died doing something much more valuable than playing in a stadium on Sunday.
404 posted on 04/23/2004 10:00:30 AM PDT by Gamecock (Need a new name? Let me know.....)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult
Doesn't that figure, blaming Bush for the death of a man they probably disdained when he came out to enlist in the wake of 9/11. Those people will truly use any scrap they can to advance their agenda. We shouldn't even tarnish this good soldiers memory by mentioning leftist trash that dwell on those boards.
405 posted on 04/23/2004 10:01:22 AM PDT by cupcakes
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To: MindBender26
"If my President calls, I'm ready on 4 hours notice."

I'm 13 years older and I'll join ya!

Be Ever Vigilant!

406 posted on 04/23/2004 10:02:03 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: Coop
It just rips my heart out. Selfless heroes like Pat cut down in the prime of life, while hate-filled, obese slobs like Michael Moore continue spewing their venom while simultaneously inhaling meatball & cheese subs.

I share your sentiment. But it's up to us to win the battle here on the homefront. The Left wants this to be another Vietnam because that was an American defeat. THIS TIME, WE MUST NOT LET THEM WIN HERE ON THE HOMEFRONT. We have our place in this fight. It is on the political front lines, while our Armed Forces fight on the battle lines.

407 posted on 04/23/2004 10:02:09 AM PDT by Wolfstar (Our place in this war: on the political front lines, while our Armed Forces fight on battle lines.)
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To: TomGuy
Thanks for posting that. I had not seen it. Very touching.
408 posted on 04/23/2004 10:03:30 AM PDT by Lost Highway (The things of earth will grow strangely dim in the light of his glory and grace.)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
God Bless all of our fallen heros and their families ~ Bump!
409 posted on 04/23/2004 10:03:53 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: Wolfstar
It is on the political front lines, while our Armed Forces fight on the battle lines.

Amen to that!

I'm grieving, but I'm not giving up. Not by a longshot.

410 posted on 04/23/2004 10:03:59 AM PDT by Coop (Freedom isn't free)
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To: jtminton
Eternal rest, sir.
411 posted on 04/23/2004 10:04:44 AM PDT by BlessedBeGod ('I went to Vietnam, yada yada yada, I want to be President...")
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To: cupcakes
but to serve others.

The military service represents various solutions to people's lives. For many it is service and patriotism that drives them, for others it is a second, or third chance to mature and grow and learn. For some it is the chance to complete their education without incurring hugh debt. I believe it does not matter a whit what reason the men/women had when they joined. They all learn in their training what may be asked of them. (This is where they become equal in the eyes of G-d and our nation.) And they all deserve all our support.

I hope this hero (Pat Tillman) galvanizes all our backbones for the job that is at hand. And I hope it galvanizes the spirits of our leaders and they get on with it. (I am opposed to seeking a political solution in Iraq until after the Sunni triangle is in ruins and the people sue for peace.)

412 posted on 04/23/2004 10:07:48 AM PDT by KC_for_Freedom (Sailing the highways of America, and loving it.)
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To: IN Farm Girl
BTW, I am a long-time lurker, first-time poster. I regret that it took such a sad event to bring me online.

Welcome. Everyone of us cannot join the military. But everyone of us does have a job to do in this war. We civilians must fight the battle here on the homefront to keep the Left from doing what they did in the 1960's and early 1970's. Each one of our voices must be raised against the forces who want us to be defeated in this very real world war.

Let's raise our voices to demand answers about the oil-for-food scandal, for example. It's long past time we "average" Americans stopped being the "silent majority."

413 posted on 04/23/2004 10:09:29 AM PDT by Wolfstar (Our place in this war: on the political front lines, while our Armed Forces fight on battle lines.)
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To: Lexington Green
THE RANGER CREED

Recognizing that I volunteered as a Ranger, fully knowing the hazards of my chosen profession, I will always endeavor to uphold the prestige, honor and high esprit de corps of my Ranger Regiment.

Acknowledging the fact that a Ranger is a more elite soldier who arrives at the cutting edge of battle by land, sea, or air, I accept the fact that as a Ranger my country expects me to move farther, faster, and fight harder than any other soldier.

Never shall I fail my comrades. I will always keep myself mentally alert, physically strong, morally straight and I will shoulder more than my share of the task whatever it may be. One hundered percent and then some.

Gallantly, will I show the world that I am a specially selected and well-trained soldier. My courtesy to superior officers, neatness of dress and care of equipment shall set the example for others to follow.

Energetically, I will meet the enemies of my country. I shall defeat them on the field of battle for I am better trained and will fight with all my might. Surrender is not a Ranger word. I will never leave a fallen comrade to fall into the hands of the enemy and under no circumstances will I ever embarrass my country.

Readily I will display the intestinal fortitude required to fight on to the Ranger objective and complete the mission though I be the lone survivor.

RANGERS LEAD THE WAY!

414 posted on 04/23/2004 10:10:35 AM PDT by threat matrix
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To: jtminton
So sad to read this news.
Prayers going up for him and his family.

415 posted on 04/23/2004 10:12:49 AM PDT by Smocker
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To: jtminton
Ranger Creed

Recognizing that I volunteered as a Ranger, fully knowing the hazards of my chosen profession, I will always endeavor to uphold the prestige, honor, and high esprit de corps of my Ranger Regiment.

Acknowledging the fact that a Ranger is a more elite soldier who arrives at the cutting edge of battle by land, sea, or air, I accept the fact that as a Ranger my country expects me to move farther, faster and fight harder than any other soldier.

Never shall I fail my comrades. I will always keep myself mentally alert, physically strong and morally straight and I will shoulder more than my share of the task whatever it may be. One-hundred-percent and then some.

Gallantly will I show the world that I am a specially selected and well-trained soldier. My courtesy to superior officers, neatness of dress and care of equipment shall set the example for others to follow.

Energetically will I meet the enemies of my country. I shall defeat them on the field of battle for I am better trained and will fight with all my might. Surrender is not a Ranger word. I will never leave a fallen comrade to fall into the hands of the enemy and under no circumstances will I ever embarrass my country.

Readily will I display the intestinal fortitude required to fight on to the Ranger objective and complete the mission though I be the lone survivor.

416 posted on 04/23/2004 10:15:08 AM PDT by jwalsh07 (REMEMBER FABRIZIO!)
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To: reluctantwarrior
  Somebody at the Arizona Republic gets it.

John Gambadoro
Special for azcentral.com
Apr. 23, 2004 9:50 AM

Jason Kidd, Ray Lewis, Michael Pittman, Jamaal Lewis, Dennis McKinley, Bobby Chouinard, Jason Williams, Rae Caruth, Mike Danton and the list goes on and on and on. Athletes who many of us once thought we knew. But in the end we didn't really know who these people were.

We did know who Pat Tillman was. Make no mistake about that. Tillman never let us down, never would. You could bank on him. He was rare.

Remember this as we celebrate his life - he had no regrets. He was doing exactly what he wanted to do.

And while I don't trust the Cardinals in anything they do football related, I do trust that they will do the right thing when it comes to honoring Tillman. And while naming the new stadium after him would be a nice gesture, it is somewhat unrealistic.

But Pat Tillman Field. That is the right thing to do. That way every time we walk into the new stadium we can remember our hero.

Arizona State University is flying the flag at half-staff today. Tillman was a great Sun Devil. They will also honor him properly. A scholarship in his name would be a great start.

There was nothing fake about Tillman. Nothing. The news is stunning. We knew there was a chance this day could come, but hoped it never would. We thought that somewhere in the future we would be talking about Pat Tillman the Senator or Pat Tillman the President. He was one of those rare people that you just knew would do whatever he set out to. We wish we could be like him. In an era dominated by greed and getting what we can, Tillman stood for something. So as we pray for our soldiers over seas, let's say a special thank you to Pat Tillman.

417 posted on 04/23/2004 10:16:02 AM PDT by timpad (Tillman Stadium at ASU - Make it happen)
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To: jtminton
"I bet he's a lot happier dying for something he believed in rather than blowing his knee out in the NFL and being a sportscaster the rest of his life."

How much would you bet on that?

418 posted on 04/23/2004 10:18:34 AM PDT by jjm2111
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To: timpad
I disagree with naming the new NFL stadium after Tillman. With the selling of naming rights, you could get something like Tostitos Tillman Field. Not cool.
419 posted on 04/23/2004 10:18:40 AM PDT by timpad (Tillman Stadium at ASU - Make it happen)
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To: timpad
Yes, he gets it.

Pat Tillman Field.

Is your monitor screen blurry, too?

420 posted on 04/23/2004 10:18:48 AM PDT by Catspaw
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