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Be very afraid. I watched this on local news, the locals are furious. Your neighborhood could be next.
1 posted on 04/20/2004 9:27:03 PM PDT by quantim
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I suppose it's a victory, of sorts. the screeching of fanatics, summoning their benighted kind to raise their butts like submissive baboons will not be heard before 6 a.m. or after 10 p.m.

Until the jawas decide that allah wants them to do it whenever they want.
3 posted on 04/20/2004 9:33:01 PM PDT by epigone73
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In another part of the world...


SMH.com.au - SYDNEY MORNING HERALD: "MUSLIMS WANT TO PRAY IN CATHOLIC CATHEDRAL" (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "Muslims across Spain are lobbying the Catholic church in Cordoba to make a symbolic gesture of reconciliation between faiths by allowing them to pray in the city's cathedral.") (April 20, 2004) (Read More...)

JIHAD WATCH.org (BBC): "SPANISH OFFICER'S GRAVE ATTACKED" (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "A very strange incident to greet Spain's new Prime Minister. From the BBC, with thanks to Susan: Vandals have desecrated the grave of a Spanish policeman who was killed when a group of Madrid bomb suspects blew themselves up. A Spanish radio station said his coffin was dragged from its tomb, doused with fuel and set on fire. Special agent Francisco Javier Torronteras died when seven suspected Islamic militants set off explosives as police moved in on their apartment.") (April 19, 2004) (Read More...)
TIMES ONLINE.co.uk: "BODY OF MADRID OFFICER KILLED BY TERRORISTS IS MUTILATED" (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "Spain's National Police said that the coffin containing the body of Senor Torronteras was taken from its grave, doused with fuel and set alight, but refused to give further details. It was reported that the unknown attackers mutilated the corpse by driving a pick axe through the skull and a shovel through his torso, although Spanish police would not confirm this. Cemetery guards were attracted by the smoke and called the police, who discovered that the mutilated and part burnt remains were in fact those of their deceased colleague.") (April 19, 2004) (Read More...)

4 posted on 04/20/2004 9:33:43 PM PDT by Cindy
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Why don't they just issue pagers to all the mosque patrons? Oh yeah, I forgot, Islam is still stuck in the 11th century.
5 posted on 04/20/2004 9:33:49 PM PDT by xrp
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I wonder what is going to happen when the muslims decide to use sunup and sunset as their time to issue the calls rather than 6am and 10pm. What is the purpose of calling for prayer when the prayer is already over?
9 posted on 04/20/2004 9:42:52 PM PDT by texastoo (a "has-been" Republican)
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Besides being a pandering bunch of weasels on the city council, this is just stupid. Imagine if you were a tourist or visitor to this town and you hear this crap 5 times a day. Would you not think that this is a muslim town, and perhaps a little out of place in America? This is ridiculous and the people need to throw those council members out on their behinds.
11 posted on 04/20/2004 9:44:11 PM PDT by vpintheak (Our Liberties we prize, and our rights we will maintain!)
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""We are not inviting (non-Muslims)," he said. "We are calling our Muslim people, reminding them they are obligated to come to pray.""

Yeah, well save that Muslim caterwaulin' for the old 'hood in Desertville, sparky. Here, we use church announcements. In case you hadn't noticed.........Islam isn't too well loved in this country these days.

Get lost.

13 posted on 04/20/2004 9:46:18 PM PDT by RightOnline
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The thing that annoys my son in Afghanistan is waking up to morning prayer on the loudspeaker. He said that most of them spend a good portion of the day during patrols trying to figure out a way to accidental blow the thing up.
14 posted on 04/20/2004 9:47:49 PM PDT by armymarinemom (Bring Them Home Now.org--The Few, The Loud, The Latrine)
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"We are calling our Muslim people, reminding them they are obligated to come to pray."

If they are so damn holy, how come they have to be reminded 5 times a day.

15 posted on 04/20/2004 9:48:50 PM PDT by paul51
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Americans should allow the calls of the muezzin to echo above American towns starting on the day that Muslims allow Christian churches to ring their bells in Muslim countries.
20 posted on 04/20/2004 10:07:25 PM PDT by etcetera
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How about getting a few thousand people to surround the Moo palaces and reply with a big, rousing "STFU!" when they yammer their gibberish?
22 posted on 04/20/2004 10:13:10 PM PDT by Hank Rearden (Is Fallujah gone yet?)
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Some Muslims say the call is the equivalent of church bells. Opponents argued that church bells have no religious significance and that allowing the Arabic call, which lasts less than two minutes, unfairly elevates Islam above other religions.
 
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Masud Khan, secretary of the al-Islah mosque, said the purpose of the call, which lasts less than two minutes, is not to proselytize.
Why is that mentioned twice? In an article? It has a real "it's only two minutes, get over it" attitude to it, to me.
 

"It's gotten a lot of attention. It'll take people a while to get used to it. But I think in the end they'll get used to it, and it'll become one of the lovely things about Hamtramck that we're proud of."

Why does this line give me the shivers?

26 posted on 04/20/2004 10:23:06 PM PDT by AnnaZ (I hate Times New Roman... and it's all Mel Gibson's fault!)
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Opponents argued that church bells have no religious significance and that allowing the Arabic call, which lasts less than nearly two minutes, unfairly elevates Islam above other religions....

(You see, it's all how you write it.)

27 posted on 04/20/2004 10:26:13 PM PDT by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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I read the earlier post on this and thought there was no way Americans would put up with this lunacy. One fellow said the call to dusk prayer by the moment an imam can no longer distinguish the difference between a white thread and a black one, process reversed for dawn prayer. They expect the rest of the world to surrender to this kind of thinking?

Actually it's "non-thinking". Keep the devotee in perpetual consternation over ridiculous minituae while tying up useful time in mandatory drone sessions, forcing the person's blood to pool in his brain frequently throughout the day.

As far as the offending loudspeakers go...

This is not a country for practicing servility, religious or otherwise.

28 posted on 04/20/2004 10:28:09 PM PDT by NewRomeTacitus
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This is nuts. I'd be curious to know if this town Hamtrack allows Creche's and Menorah's at Christmas time. Probably not, yet, it's OK to allow a whole town to be awakened by some screeching at sun up? Hell in a hand basket comes to mind.
30 posted on 04/20/2004 10:45:25 PM PDT by capydick ("Think what your actions say to your soldiers.".)
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OK. Does this mean that A CHRISTIAN church can use loudspeakers 5 times a day to sing "Come on down and worship Jesus, praise the lord!, Come on down right now and pray with us, sing with us and study with us. Jesus is Lord!"

does it??

31 posted on 04/20/2004 10:50:49 PM PDT by GeronL (Any help with Blender 3d is NEEDED =o))
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"I think there was some element of fear"

Typical political correctness. This is the same argument behind the ridiculous and nonsensical term "homophobe".

I suppose we're all "islamophobes" now. Traditional values are never the issue, just fear of "progressive" values.

32 posted on 04/20/2004 10:53:12 PM PDT by watchin
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33 posted on 04/20/2004 10:53:48 PM PDT by nutmeg (Why vote for Bush? Imagine Commander in Chief John F’in al-Qerry)
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This should be challenged as a violation of the establishment clause of the First Amendment. Government is giving official recognition and permission to a religious organization to violate normal standards of noise enforcement. The city government is forcing the local citizens to listen to a religious broadcast that they have officially sanctioned. Where is the ACLU? Where is the American Atheist organization? Where is the Freedom From Religion crowd? Those clowns only show up to argue against Christians.
47 posted on 04/20/2004 11:29:46 PM PDT by Myrddin
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Why can't the Muslims just look at their watches?
53 posted on 04/21/2004 1:35:04 AM PDT by Savage Beast (My parents, grandparents, and great grandparents were Democrats. My children are Republicans.)
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A mosque took another step Tuesday night toward being allowed to send out a call to prayer to Muslims on a loudspeaker.

I heard on FNC last night that this call to prayer also includes the words "Allah is great" and "There is no God but Allah".

Can anyone confirm this?

54 posted on 04/21/2004 3:57:38 AM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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