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White Male Guilt 101
Men's News Daily ^ | April 19, 2004 | Bernard Chapin

Posted on 04/20/2004 1:40:45 PM PDT by presidio9

This morning, just as I was considering brewing even more coffee as a way to get my tired, irritable bones into the gym, I received a very suspicious email from a girl wanting to interview me for a college term paper. The tone of the email and the questions that came along with it made me suspect that she was a Womyn’s Studies major or, at the very least, a person deeply under the sway of the sensitivity brigade.

Dear Sir: I have just recently been introduced to the doctrines of "White Male Guilt", I am doing a research paper on it for my Cultural Anthropology class, and could really use your opinions. I would appreciate it if you would offer your answers to a few questions, and if I may quote a few of your answers for my research paper. Please be as honest and straightforward as you can. Thank You, Jasmine Johnson [Not her real name]

Several emails later I concluded that she is merely a normal student who, like countless others, is currently mired within the postmodernist septic tank of the liberal arts. The fact that she was not a feminista was rather disappointing as I miss the old days of their sending hate mail and threatening me. They’d brag about knowing my address and I’d get to respond like Ike in Tombstone with, “I’ll see you soon. I’ll see you soon.”

Yet, I’m sure the reader could understand my confusion as only far leftists speak about “doctrines of white male guilt.” Radical professors alone describe white guilt in formal and triumphalist terms. The rest of us simply want to live our lives.

When I read that she wanted to hear my opinions, I assumed that this would be in the same way that Rome wanted to see Vercingetorix (meaning: parade my opinions through downtown Berkeley in a box). However, as someone who’s done many an online interview, I realize that the venue is only suitable for dealing with those with whom you agree. Hostile interviewing is impossible if you give somebody unlimited time to respond. That’s why, even had she hailed from The New School for Castration, I would have happily complied with her request. That being said, let’s take a glimpse into the ideological perspectives of the next generation.

College Student: What does the term, "White Male Guilt," mean to you?

Uncle Bern: When I hear the phrase, “white male guilt,” I think generally of liberals who are racist at their core and who attempt to apologize for their own skin color as a means of hiding the fact that they regard themselves as being superior everyone else (specifically those in other racial groups or who live in the nation’s interior and fail to shop at Restoration Hardware).

In this country, we once practiced slavery which meant that whites (and also freed blacks) owned black slaves. Then, between 1861 and 1865, 600,000 whites died in the process of freeing them. Some whites look back at slavery and feel guilt about it. What good does that accomplish? I never enslaved anyone. It’s preposterous. Slavery was a great evil that affected all cultures across the globe but was not a “white” or European phenomenon. Nowadays if you want to find slaves and slavery you’d have to visit an African place like the Sudan. It’s been banished from all parts of the western world.

My ancestors came here after 1910 so to hold me or anyone else in my family responsible for slavery is outrageous, but the concept of ancestral liability in itself is tomfoolery. Where does culpability end? Would you hold a recent immigrant from Poland responsible for what a small percentage of southern elites did over a hundred years ago? Of course not. The entire idea of racial guilt is illogical.

I wrote an article on reparations that you may want to read that examines many of these arguments in greater detail than I can provide for you at this time, but I will say that asking somebody like me to pay the offspring of former slaves is akin to my calling up Tony Blair and asking for a million pounds due to the potato famine. Reparations are crazy as the slaves of the pre-war south are long dead. If the government paid them something in 1870 or 1880 I think that would have been appropriate but to bring it up now is nuts.

Specifically though, as far as guilt is concerned, I think it is a good thing in terms of behavior modification. If I treat someone badly I should, and often do, feel guilty about it. This can prevent me from doing the same thing the next time around. Yet generational, or DNA guilt, is entirely counter-productive. I’m proud of my ancestry. I wouldn’t swap parents or grandparents with you or anybody else. My ancestors worked a lot harder than I do just so they could make it in this country and they should be congratulated for it; they should not be cast into some university’s version of “Gone with the Wind.”

You want to know who the real racists are? It’s white people who apologize for their race. They do this to compensate for the racist, elitist feelings which embody them.

CS: What is your understanding of the institution of slavery? How many slaves were brought from Africa? What happened to them once they got here? Do you think that its effects ended completely with its abolishment in 1865?

UB: Slavery is the one of the world’s foremost evils. Slavery is unthinkable to us today. Due to the freedom and tolerance of western civilization, we now regard slavery as being something that should have never occurred anywhere at any time. Indeed, as I said above, in 2004 you can now only find slaveholders in Africa.

I think the notion that slavery is to blame today for the social problems of American blacks is absurd. The biggest challenges American blacks face stem from politicians who advocate a more expansive welfare state. In 1960 (nearly a hundred years after the Emancipation Proclamation), black illegitimacy rates stood at 25 percent. Now they’re just under 70 percent. Why? Because welfare destroyed the incentive to marry and created a class of people who don’t have to work to live. As usual, to leftist liberals, the underclass are simply a group of people they move around a chess board like pawns. They could care less about them. They’re merely a means of getting elected. The Great Society yielded an anti-society.

Jasmine, do me a favor. Ask your professor if she/he/it has read White Slaves; African Masters. I’m sure their heads will spin around like androgynous demons once you mention it to them. [On second thought, don’t mention it them, you seem like a nice kid and there’s no reason you should get a F in your class].

CS: What is you understanding of feminism? Are men and women paid relatively the same wage? Are they considered equally for employment for all jobs?

BC: I’m glad you asked me that. You see, I’m a feminist according to the word’s original derivation. I believe in equal pay for equal labor and non-discriminatory hiring practices–which puts me at odds with the radical, or perhaps pathological is a better term, feminists. The pathological feminists wish the state to discriminate in their favor which is referred to as affirmative action. Radical feminism is all about more and more goodies and privileges for women. It’s about categorical discrimination against men in general. Hiring should be gender blind. Let the most qualified person get the job.

Besides, there is no wage discrepancy among men and women who are single and in their twenties and thirties. When disparities are visible it is often due to the variable of marriage. My boss missed a decade of work while she raised her young children. A Special Education Director I know worked three days a week when she had toddlers at home. Should they have been paid for the days/years that they did not work? Of course not. Radical feminists deny that life is about choices. Many women would rather, and justifiably, stay home with their first degree biological relations than spend their days in a workplace full of strangers. Who can blame them?

Supply and demand, as opposed to gender, determines wages in this country. We see this now with the female dominated field of nursing. There is a severe shortage of nurses in America and salaries are skyrocketing. If a woman wants more money they should select work in an area that is in desperately in need of laborers.

My job is in the field of education and over 70 percent of my co-workers are female so I can’t say I’ve ever seen any discrimination based on gender occur. The superintendent of our district is a black female who makes over $150,000 a year. Much of what is charged by university professors is a result of them not mixing with the general population. They’re very ignorant, but unfortunately that won’t deter their speech.

Also, many college students like yourself are unfortunately unaware that men dominate the ranks of the less glamorous professions like welding, pipefitting, and the various construction trades. Why aren’t there more female welders? The answer lies within you. Why don’t you want to weld? I know a welder who made $100,000 in 1998. Did he deserve it? Absolutely. How many people in the United States could do what he does everyday? Not many. I know I can’t. He deserves his pay.

CS: Should you so choose, would you be legally allowed to marry the person with whom you are currently dating (or any person you have dated) in any state, country, or province of the world?

UB: Marriage is for men and women. It was recognized by the state in order to foster the social stability inherent to a two parent home. We see what the welfare state has done to the social fabric–it’s destroyed whatever it has touched. We should encourage men and women to marry before having offspring. It’s the best thing for all of us.

Gay advocates confuse “right” with “privilege.” You have a right to remain silent. If you’re not a felon, you a right to vote. You do not have a right to get married. It isn’t a right. It is a legal procedure but not a political right. Marriage is something heterosexuals do. It’s not something that homosexuals do. I’m in favor of civil unions. More power to it. We’ll do our thing and they can do theirs.

CS: Are there more than ten representatives in Congress from you respective religious group (NOT Denomination!!)?

BC: Jasmine, honestly, I don’t know and I don’t care. I consider my representatives’ voting record first. I never thought I’d ever have a worse representative than my old one (Jan Schakowsky) but I moved last year and discovered Danny Davis. He happens to be an even bigger jackass than Schakowsky. Not only did I see him at anti-Bush rally (disguised as an anti-war rally) last month, but he sent me a newsletter blaming white people like me for why there are so many blacks in special education. Ironically, it is white people like me who consistently discourage parents from having their 16 and 17 year olds evaluated for special education. Sadly, some want the benefits that come with the label. Now call me a traditionalist but I don’t want to call someone disabled unless they’re actually disabled. Representative Davis is not only clueless but he’s a liar too.

CS: Describe your most recent experience of discrimination based upon your race, ethnicity, gender, class, religion, sexual orientation; physical, mental, or otherwise handicap. (Date inluded please)

UB: Well [sniffle, “I don’t know if I can continue on, Mr. Donahue”], I’m looking for a new job now and I think the fact that I’m white and male is a double negative against me. I go through that every time I fill out an application but, unlike those in the academy, I don’t dwell and whine about it. I do what past generations of Americans have always done. I move forward and try to be optimistic. Unfortunately though, this is a whiny, self-absorbed, narcissistic brood of Americans we are now producing. Whining about past wrongs is silly and pointless. You need to forget about that stuff and simply achieve.

I have some advice for you and your classmates: “Work Hard!” And when you’re done, “work harder still.” Only with labor and production will you be successful and content with your life. Don’t worry about what other people think or say to you. We shall overcome!


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1 posted on 04/20/2004 1:40:49 PM PDT by presidio9
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To: presidio9
To liberals white males real crime is being Republican.
2 posted on 04/20/2004 1:44:40 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: presidio9
Then, between 1861 and 1865, 600,000 whites died in the process of freeing them.

To be perfectly fair, about 40% of these deaths were among those fighting to prevent the freeing of the slaves. Also the 600,000 includes a significant percentage of blacks who died fighting for the North, and a very small percentage who died fighting for the South.

3 posted on 04/20/2004 1:52:38 PM PDT by Restorer
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To: Restorer
In the spirit of quibbling, how many blacks died fighting for the North?
4 posted on 04/20/2004 1:56:39 PM PDT by presidio9 ("See, mother, I make all things new.")
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To: presidio9
Great article - thanks for the post!
5 posted on 04/20/2004 1:57:01 PM PDT by jonno (We are NOT a democracy - though we are democratic. We ARE a constitutional republic.)
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To: presidio9
Now that was well worth reading. I'm saving a copy to re-read again and again.
6 posted on 04/20/2004 1:58:32 PM PDT by theDentist (JOHN KERRY never saw a TAX he would not HIKE !)
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To: presidio9
Wonderful article! Refreshing to see someone say it like it is.
7 posted on 04/20/2004 1:59:44 PM PDT by momfirst
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To: presidio9
I'm thinking about starting to publish a magazine for trans-sexuals trying to overcome their overly feminist tendencies. The working title so far is "She-it".
8 posted on 04/20/2004 2:00:38 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (You get more with a gun and a smile than just a smile itself!)
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To: presidio9
Two of the most absurd notions of our time are "white male guilt" and "hate crimes" (which surprise, surprise only seems to be discussed when ever there's even a slight hint a crime was committed by a white person upon a minority......and ALMOST NEVER brought up when it's black on white).
9 posted on 04/20/2004 2:11:05 PM PDT by american spirit
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To: presidio9
I'm getting patriarchal urges just reading this. [sarcasm/]

This silliness is rampant on our college campuses, that's for sure. But it's even seeping down into our grade schools. My daughter brought home a sheet from her elementary school at the start of the school year that was headlined "It takes an entire village to educate a child"; it was addressed to "Dear Patron" (not parent/guardian); and it was larded with a lot of P.C. catchphrases and nonsense. And my kids informed me that Dodge Ball, Red Rover, Tag, and hide n' go seek had all been formally banned on the playground, because (they were told) someone always felt "left out" or "excluded" when those games where played. Truly disgusting.
10 posted on 04/20/2004 2:11:36 PM PDT by A Jovial Cad ("You're entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts.")
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To: presidio9
Should you so choose, would you be legally allowed to marry the person with whom you are currently dating (or any person you have dated) in any state, country, or provincee of the world?

I wish the author had expanded his answer. Should I be allowed to marry the person I'm currently dating..if they're a corpse? OK, assuming they're not a corpse, what about if they're already married? And, their current spouse isn't in the loop? Does that matter?

11 posted on 04/20/2004 2:11:47 PM PDT by FourPeas (We can't all be heroes because someone has to sit on the curb and clap as they go by. - Will Rogers)
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To: presidio9
The man who wrote this "gets it". Wow.

In this country, we once practiced slavery which meant that whites (and also freed blacks) owned black slaves. Then, between 1861 and 1865, 600,000 whites died in the process of freeing them. Some whites look back at slavery and feel guilt about it. What good does that accomplish? I never enslaved anyone. It’s preposterous. Slavery was a great evil that affected all cultures across the globe but was not a “white” or European phenomenon. Nowadays if you want to find slaves and slavery you’d have to visit an African place like the Sudan. It’s been banished from all parts of the western world.

12 posted on 04/20/2004 2:12:15 PM PDT by GOPJ (NFL Owners: Grown men don't watch hollywood peep shows with wives and children.)
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To: presidio9
In the spirit of quibbling, how many blacks died fighting for the North?

About 18% of Union combatants died. Applying that percentage to the about 200,000 blacks (approximately 10% of the Union total) who served gives us about 35,000 blacks who died. Haven't been able to find a source that breaks black deaths out separately.

BTW, better than 1/3 of Confederate combatants died during the war. More men on both sides were killed by disease than by combat.

13 posted on 04/20/2004 2:15:25 PM PDT by Restorer
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To: A Jovial Cad

14 posted on 04/20/2004 2:17:34 PM PDT by presidio9 ("See, mother, I make all things new.")
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To: goldstategop
To liberals white males real crime is being Republican.

To liberals, white males real crime is just. . . being (unless they're gay, of course).

15 posted on 04/20/2004 2:19:53 PM PDT by Euro-American Scum (A poverty-stricken middle class must be a disarmed middle class)
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To: presidio9
I can't make the link work. Do you have another site address? Thnaks.
16 posted on 04/20/2004 2:22:24 PM PDT by GOPJ (NFL Owners: Grown men don't watch hollywood peep shows with wives and children.)
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To: Restorer
About 18% of Union combatants died. Applying that percentage to the about 200,000 blacks (approximately 10% of the Union total) who served gives us about 35,000 blacks who died. Haven't been able to find a source that breaks black deaths out separately.

I will be the first to admit that I am no expert on this, but I was under the impression that very few of the free blacks who enlisted were given combat roles. First, because a lot of the whites refused to fight next to them, and second because the Confederacy threatened to execute all black prisoners.

Triva note: Presidio9 attended the same high school as Col. Robert Shaw, the Union officer Matthew Broderick portrayed in the film "Glory."

17 posted on 04/20/2004 2:24:37 PM PDT by presidio9 ("See, mother, I make all things new.")
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To: presidio9
It is true that comparatively few blacks were given combat roles. However, it is reasonable to suppose that their sanitary and medical facilities were skimped. Certainly they were paid less than white troops for most of the war. Therefore, I would suspect that a slightly higher death rate from disease would not be unreasonable. Combining a higher death rate from disease and a lower combat death rate, I would be surprised if black mortality rates were not comparable to white rates overall.
18 posted on 04/20/2004 2:28:08 PM PDT by Restorer
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To: GOPJ
Try going to the Main Page and then clicking on the link for the article there. Bernie Chapin is also published on several other websites.
19 posted on 04/20/2004 2:29:28 PM PDT by presidio9 ("See, mother, I make all things new.")
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To: presidio9
According to this website, Union black deaths totaled 37,000, almost exactly what I suggested above.

http://www.njstatelib.org/NJ_Information/Digital_Collections/AAHCG/unit6.html

However, it is obviously an "ain't white racism awful" site. I'd take their numbers with a grain of salt. For instance, they claim blacks were used as "cannon fodder," and therefore had a higher death rate, even though from other sources it is easy to see that their death rates were very similar to those of white soldiers.
20 posted on 04/20/2004 2:35:37 PM PDT by Restorer
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