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Document: Oklahoma City Bombing Was Taped
AP via Yahoo! ^ | April 19, 2004 | John Solomon

Posted on 04/19/2004 1:23:06 PM PDT by RippleFire

WASHINGTON - A Secret Service document written shortly after the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing described security video footage of the attack and witness testimony that suggested Timothy McVeigh (news - web sites) may have had accomplices at the scene.

"Security video tapes from the area show the truck detonation 3 minutes and 6 seconds after the suspects exited the truck," the Secret Service reported six days after the attack on a log of agents' activities and evidence in the Oklahoma investigation.

The government has insisted McVeigh drove the truck himself and that it never had any video of the bombing or the scene of the Alfred P. Murrah building in the minutes before the April 19, 1995, explosion.

Several investigators and prosecutors who worked the case told The Associated Press they had never seen video footage like that described in the Secret Service log.

The document, if accurate, is either significant evidence kept secret for nine years or a misconstrued recounting of investigative leads that were often passed by word of mouth during the hectic early days of the case, they said.

"I did not see it," said Danny Defenbaugh, the retired FBI (news - web sites) agent who ran the Oklahoma City probe. "If it shows what it says, then it would be significant."

Secret Service spokesman Charles Bopp declined to discuss the video footage reference, saying it would be addressed by witnesses later this week at the capital murder trial of McVeigh co-defendant Terry Nichols. "It is anticipated Secret Service employees will testify in court concerning these matters," he said.

Other documents obtained by AP show the Secret Service in late 1995 gave prosecutors several computer disks of enhanced digital photographs of the Murrah building, intelligence files on several subjects in the investigation and a file detailing an internal affairs inquiry concerning an agent who reconstructed key phone evidence against McVeigh.

"These abstract sheets are sensitive documents which we have protected from disclosure in the past," said a Secret Service letter that recounted discussions in late 1995 with federal prosecutors on what evidence would be turned over to defense lawyers.

Lawyers for Nichols say they have never been given the security video, photo disks or internal investigative file referenced in the documents.

The trial judge has threatened to dismiss the death penalty case if evidence was withheld. McVeigh was executed in 2001 on a separate federal conviction. Nichols was sentenced to life in prison on federal charges before being tried by the state this year.

The government has maintained for years that McVeigh parked the Ryder rental truck carrying a massive fertilizer bomb outside the Murrah building and left alone in a getaway car he parked around the corner. The bombing killed more than 160 people.

The only video prosecutors introduced at trial showed the Ryder truck without any visible passengers as it passed a security camera inside a high-rise apartment building a block away from the Murrah building.

But the Secret Service log reported on April 24 and April 25, 1995, that there was security footage showing the Ryder truck pulling up to the Murrah building. The log does not say where such video came from or who possessed it.

A log entry on April 25 states that the security footage allowed agents to determine the time that elapsed between suspects leaving the truck and the explosion.

An entry a day earlier on the same log reported that the security video was consistent with a witness' account that he saw McVeigh's getaway car in the lead before a woman guided the truck to its final parking spot in front of the Murrah building.

"A witness to the explosion named Grossman claimed to have seen a pale yellow Mercury car with a Ryder truck behind it pulling up to the federal building," the log said. The witness "further claimed to have seen a woman on the corner waving to the truck."

A Secret Service agent named McNally "noted that this fact is significant due to the fact that the security video shows the Ryder truck pulling up to the Federal Building and then pausing (7 to 10 seconds) before resuming into the slot in front of the building," the log said. "It is speculated that the woman was signaling the truck when a slot became available."

Defenbaugh said the FBI had talked to several witnesses suggesting two people had left the truck, but prosecutors never introduced the scenario at trial because it couldn't be corroborated. That's why a new security video would be significant, he said.

"It would have taken the investigation in a very specific direction," Defenbaugh said. "Rather than having to go down an eight-lane highway during rush hour, we would have gone down a faster path with just two or four lanes."

Defenbaugh said the FBI kept a log similar to the Secret Service document inside the Oklahoma City investigation command center that might help solve the mystery of the video. Justice officials declined to discuss documents, citing the ongoing Nichols' trial.

In addition to the witness mentioned in the Secret Service document, a woman working in Murrah's Social Security (news - web sites) office who was rescued from the rubble and a driver outside the building both reported to the FBI seeing two men leave the truck, according to government documents.

The Secret Service (news - web sites) log contained other information about the case — including that McVeigh made 30 calls to an Illinois gun dealer in the months before the attacks to seek dynamite and that the gun dealer subsequently failed a lie detector test. The Secret Service lost six employees in McVeigh's bombing, the single largest loss in agency history.

Nichols' attorneys last week asked the judge to dismiss the case on grounds the government withheld evidence, including the security video footage.

New documents obtained by AP show the Secret Service provided prosecutors other evidence that may not have been provided to defense lawyers, including a file showing the Secret Service agent who reconstructed crucial phone evidence against McVeigh was subjected to an internal affairs investigation and eventually cleared for her conduct in the case.

FBI officials say that file details allegations the agent wrongly collected grand jury-subpoenaed phone information about McVeigh's calls without FBI knowledge, and kept it for weeks while she produced analysis that helped the investigation.

The internal investigation caused complications for prosecutors. They decided it tainted the agent as a witness and they chose instead to hire an outside expert to re-do the phone analysis for trial, officials said.

Bopp said the Secret Service did nothing wrong.

"The Secret Service worked cooperatively with the FBI and other federal state and local law enforcement throughout the investigation," Bopp said. "The expertise of the Secret Service on electronic crimes and telecommunications provided unique and timely information to the ongoing investigation."

On the Net:

The FBI: http://www.fbi.gov

The documents obtained by The Associated Press can be viewed at http://wid.ap.org/documents/okc/okcdoc2.pdf


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To: mewzilla
I listened to her interview on Fox XM-121 this morning. Awesome !!
121 posted on 04/19/2004 3:17:44 PM PDT by glock rocks (Please pray for our patriot armed forces in harm's way - and the families awaiting their safe return)
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To: blackdog
The truth Bush should have disclosed from day #1 is going to come out this summer and the gloves are coming off.

It really is beginning to look that way.....Hallelujah!
122 posted on 04/19/2004 3:17:57 PM PDT by MamaLucci (Libs, want answers on 911? Ask Clinton why he met with Monica more than with his CIA director.)
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To: JOAT
I have heard that the local grand jury uncovered many more facts that were simply ignored by the national presstitutes.

IF this goes anywhere, our "enemies" will be nuked. Not only would it get the Clinton cover-up, but it would have to detail how the press walked in lockstep.

What is the point of a free press? Why is it important enough to be in the Constitution? Because of situations just like this. We the people cannot make informed decisions without an adversary (to the gov't) press.

123 posted on 04/19/2004 3:18:49 PM PDT by Dianna
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To: MamaLucci
Better late than never. I'm sure Bush figured he could at least use some of this to his advantage when the moment arrived.

There's something to be said about "timing".
124 posted on 04/19/2004 3:20:06 PM PDT by bonfire
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To: wtc911
I flew into Roanoke one night really late in bad weather to deliver something to a defense contractor in the area. Anyone who knows Roanoke knows that it's like landing inside giant fishbowl, or like landing inside a volcano.

Well, departures were forbidden until the weather broke and I was parked right next to a US Government Falcon 50 accompanied by several of those vans full of black clothed thugs who enjoyed each other's company and nobody elses. Lot's of lethal gear inside of them too.

I tried to joke with them, asking if they were with CNN? They snarled me off. I slept in my plane and they departed about an hour or so before me once the conditions improved.

125 posted on 04/19/2004 3:22:12 PM PDT by blackdog (I feed the sheep the coyotes eat)
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To: Dianna
This is the FRee press.
126 posted on 04/19/2004 3:22:12 PM PDT by glock rocks (Please pray for our patriot armed forces in harm's way - and the families awaiting their safe return)
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To: bonfire
I'm sure Bush figured he could at least use some of this to his advantage when the moment arrived.

Yes, and to cut the President some slack, he had 2 hundred some days in office until 911 hit....hardly enough time to unravel the web of Clinton crimes and cover-ups.
127 posted on 04/19/2004 3:24:21 PM PDT by MamaLucci (Libs, want answers on 911? Ask Clinton why he met with Monica more than with his CIA director.)
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To: Marie Antoinette
A bunch of people (INCLUDING ME) SAW THE TWA 800 Vidoe tape of a missle going up into the sky just before the explosion.

How they managed to quiet that down AFTER it was shown on national TV amazes me.
128 posted on 04/19/2004 3:24:44 PM PDT by Mr. K (ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,I stole this cuz its funny,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø))
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To: RippleFire; Alamo-Girl
Another Clinton coverup unraveling before our eyes...

Clinton Legacy ping
129 posted on 04/19/2004 3:25:49 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Mahmoud Zahar, step right up! You're the next contestant on "Who wants to field test a Hellfire?")
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To: RippleFire
FWIW, this has been the lead story for the last few newfeeds on my local radio station.
130 posted on 04/19/2004 3:26:41 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: MamaLucci
Oh please! Bush's daddy was the head of the CIA for gawd's sake! Bush knew all the dealings and trim that hung from the Clintons and did nothing, because that's what Washington has become. It's a club.

Unlike high society club members though, the Clinton crowd is without manners and decency. The hands off our club members rule should never have applied to the trash that is the Clinton bunch.

131 posted on 04/19/2004 3:28:35 PM PDT by blackdog (I feed the sheep the coyotes eat)
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To: bonfire
I'm beginning to think that all of this stuff coming out is the reason the rats have been hysterical for some time now, and why they have been throwing everything but the kitchen sink at him. The Clinton moles in the Bush White House (Dick Clarke, et al) alerted them that the "New Tone" was about to end.
132 posted on 04/19/2004 3:29:48 PM PDT by MamaLucci (Libs, want answers on 911? Ask Clinton why he met with Monica more than with his CIA director.)
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To: blackdog
Shhhhhh......don't tell anybody.

Disconcerting to say the least, knowing that these guys have been out there for decades.

133 posted on 04/19/2004 3:30:09 PM PDT by wtc911 (Europe without God plus islam = Eurabia)
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To: RippleFire
Tim McVeigh just went from an example in support of the death penalty to an example against it.
134 posted on 04/19/2004 3:30:44 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Mahmoud Zahar, step right up! You're the next contestant on "Who wants to field test a Hellfire?")
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To: RippleFire
Gee .. I wonder if Jamie Gorelick knows anything about the blocking of this video???

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm
135 posted on 04/19/2004 3:31:00 PM PDT by Mo1 (Make Michael Moore cry.... DONATE MONTHLY!!!)
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To: Marie Antoinette
Hmmmm? Interesting you should mention TWA 800 - evidently during Ashcroft's testimony, he mentioned another classified document with Ms. Gorelick's fingerprints on it. It's called the Millennium Report, and it's the after report of the guy who was stopped at the Canadian border with maps and plans to blow up the airport tower in L.A.

According to other reports about the "Report", it was Gorelick who shut down both the Canadian incident and the TWA 800 investigations. I've already sent an email to Ashcroft and DeLay asking them to de-classify it, and BRING IT BEFORE THE PUBLIC and allow them to judge Gorelick's involvement.
136 posted on 04/19/2004 3:33:41 PM PDT by CyberAnt (The 2004 Election is for the SOUL of AMERICA)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
Thank the dumbass RATs for putting Gorelick on the Commission.

They have no sense of when they go too far -- remember the Wellstone funeral rally!

137 posted on 04/19/2004 3:35:30 PM PDT by expatpat
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To: Shermy
The memo says "Jennifer McVeigh returned to Buffalo, NY tonight..." From where?

From the trial in Denver, presumably. From the Denver Post's trial coverage:

By The Denver Post



June 12 - In the end, it was left to Timothy McVeigh's mother and father to plead for his life.

And to his sister Jennifer, who presented some of the most damaging testimony against him at trial, to offer continuous moral support from a seat in the courtroom as the jury weighed his sentence.

Timothy McVeigh's family has been in the shadows for the last two years. Over the last five weeks, and especially Tuesday, they emerged to make their case on his behalf.

McVeigh's father's family settled in the Niagara Valley of New York more than 130 years ago. His parents, William McVeigh and Mildred Frazer, separated in 1984. As a boy, Tim stayed home in Pendleton, N.Y., with his father while his sisters, Jennifer and Patricia, moved with their mother.

Patricia, now 31, is married and living in Florida.

Jennifer, now 23, is a full-time student at Buffalo State College in New York, where she is studying elementary education. Of the family members, she had the most painful role in her brother's trial.

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138 posted on 04/19/2004 3:41:07 PM PDT by archy (The darkness will come. It will find you,and it will scare you like you've never been scared before.)
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To: sissyjane
see #136
139 posted on 04/19/2004 3:41:23 PM PDT by CyberAnt (The 2004 Election is for the SOUL of AMERICA)
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To: RippleFire
John Kerry was the passenger in the truck.
140 posted on 04/19/2004 3:43:44 PM PDT by BobS
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