Powell coming up next hour on Hannity

To: BigSkyFreeper

Rice: Woodward book has wrong timing

Posted by Howlin to hchutch; Mr Ducklips
On News/Activism 04/19/2004 11:52:07 AM EDT #15 of 23

Can You Trust Bob Woodward?
Reed Irvine
June 25, 1999

Bob Woodward's new book, "Shadow: Five Presidents and the Legacy of Watergate," contains material that has given rise to new charges that revive old memories of how "Mortuary Bob" has relied on lies, fabricated stories and other ethical violations to produce the bestsellers that have made him rich. Mr. Woodward is famous for his ability to come up with what he presents as verbatim accounts of confidential one-on-one conversations. "Shadow" contains many of these.

When Mr. Woodward appeared on "Meet the Press" on June 20, Tim Russert asked him how it was possible to find out what President Clinton and his attorney, Bob Bennett, said when they were talking one-on-one. For example, Woodward describes them strolling on the White House grounds, discussing the rumors "connecting Clinton sexually with various women." He writes: "'If you're caught...in the White House,' Bennett said, 'I'm not good enough to help you.' 'This is a prison,' Clinton responded. 'I purposefully have no drapes on the windows.' As for women, 'I'm retired,' the president declared, repeating himself emphatically, 'I'm retired.'"

Here is Mr. Woodward's answer: "There are all kinds of avenues and sources where you can get information, documents, notes and figure out- - - and significantly no one has challenged any of those conversations." Figure out what? It appears that he started to say, "figure out what was said." That would have been an admission that he makes up the dialogue and puts quotation marks around it, but he caught himself and abruptly changed course. Larry King pressed him on the same issue and got essentially the same answer, minus the revealing slip.

Mr. Woodward told Larry King, "The only thing I'm interested in is no one has questioned any of the information. They're discussing, like you are, who, what, where? I think the significance is that the information is exhaustively reported. It's not challenged."

But that is not true. Many of the conversations Mr. Woodward included in earlier books have been challenged. Victor Lasky, veteran journalist and author, found 36 statements in an earlier book, "The Final Days," that were denied by the attributed sources or declared false by those in the best position to know. In his 1987 book, "Veil," Mr. Woodward quoted 19 words that he said William J. Casey, the CIA director, had spoken in an interview with him not long after Mr. Casey had undergone brain surgery. This was a complete fabrication. Bill Casey could never speak intelligibly after his operation, and Bob Woodward never entered his carefully guarded hospital room. Mrs. Casey accused Woodward of lying, a charge he never challenged.

Jane Sherburne, a former assistant counsel in the Clinton White House, in a deposition taken by Larry Klayman of Judicial Watch on June 21, testified that Mr. Woodward had put words in her mouth in "Shadow" about a conversation she had with Hillary Clinton concerning a Newsweek article. She testified that the "dialogue does not resemble what I recall of the conversation."

She also testified that the interview was entirely off the record. She said Mr. Woodward called to tell her that when she saw the excerpts from his book that were to be published in The Washington Post she might think he had broken this agreement. He claimed there was no violation because he had heard of Hillary's reaction to the Newsweek article from many other people, and so he decided to put the words in her mouth.

Ms. Sherburne said that she had not expected to see anything she told Mr. Woodward in quotes because of their agreement and the fact that she had rejected a subsequent request that he be allowed to put some of it on the record. She testified that she sent a written apology to Mrs. Clinton, saying that "as she well knew, the dialogue was made up" by Mr. Woodward and that "to believe in Woodward's professionalism" was not good judgment.

Journalists have been fired for fabricating stories, lying and violating their commitments to keep material off the record. Bob Woodward's publishers and peers take no notice of his sins.

121 posted on 04/19/2004 1:59:03 PM PDT by Howlin

To: Impeach the Boy; All

New Gallup Poll Bush 51 Kerry 46 w/o Nader numbers

122 posted on 04/19/2004 1:59:30 PM PDT by CyberAnt (The 2004 Election is for the SOUL of AMERICA)

Tonight is our own investigative reporting time! Hardball, LKL, Hannity & Colmes....who else?

Ashcroft will be on Hannity's show. Hope he's not too much a gentleman that he does not discuss the NEED for Gorelick to be a witness for the commission.

123 posted on 04/19/2004 2:00:24 PM PDT by Carolinamom

We should check out Dennis Miller....at least we'd get some laughs out of it!

124 posted on 04/19/2004 2:01:58 PM PDT by Howlin

OMIGOD! I can't believe it. ABC News - with Peter Jennings - just came on the radio. His lead in, "A new book about President Bush's preparation for the war in Iraq. This new book, by Bob Woodward, will be available to the public tomorrow...." Since when is the news in the business of PROMOTING A BOOK! Gawd...I'm gonna be sick.

125 posted on 04/19/2004 2:02:10 PM PDT by Wphile (Keep the UN out of Iraq)

I just can't take anymore of the Bush, Cheney, Powell, Rove politics of personal destruction! HA! :-)

126 posted on 04/19/2004 2:02:24 PM PDT by ShandaLear (How come no one ever says BLAIR LIED?)

The malignant left are so narcissistic they think they have the power to elect a president - the guy of their choosing. We need to prove them wrong.

127 posted on 04/19/2004 2:06:22 PM PDT by Peach

128 posted on 04/19/2004 2:06:40 PM PDT by Howlin

Is there any way to bookmark a station on RealOne Player?

129 posted on 04/19/2004 2:07:50 PM PDT by Howlin

As Rush said today in his opening monologue, the book has a dual title, the Plan Of Attack on Iraq and the Plan Of Attack on Bush.

130 posted on 04/19/2004 2:07:59 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Liberalism is Communism one drink at a time. - P.J. O'Rourke)

Wow. That may be a new low...even for Peter Jennings.

131 posted on 04/19/2004 2:08:19 PM PDT by lonevoice (Some things have to be believed to be seen)

Thanks for the poll alert...I am encouraged, particularly considering the non-stop assault on Bush by the media, the 9-11 Commission and the thugs in Iraq.

132 posted on 04/19/2004 2:10:37 PM PDT by Moby Grape

Attorney General Ashcroft knows the future of the free world depends on the truth. I trust him to be factual and not politically correct.

133 posted on 04/19/2004 2:12:06 PM PDT by OldFriend (Always understand, even if you remain among the few)

Please do NOT miss this thread!!

I've been out and about and I do want to read this thread. Before I do I wanted to report that I just heard Petah Jennings do the top of the hour ABC radio news and he played a clip of Powell on Hannity's show saying it was not true he'd been left out of any loops.

Thanks for the ping, I was hoping there was a thread when I heard Powell had given that interview.

BTW, Ann Compton then told Jennings that the Bush WH had told everyone there to cooperate with Woodward. Does not exactly comport with "the most secretive WH ever" talking point that had been trotted out before.

134 posted on 04/19/2004 2:12:51 PM PDT by cyncooper

Assuming your using RealOne player, click "Favorites" and then from that drop down menu, click "Add Clip To Favorites", then choose where in your favorites you want to put the link.

135 posted on 04/19/2004 2:12:51 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Liberalism is Communism one drink at a time. - P.J. O'Rourke)

To: Howlin; Miss Marple

So will Doonesberry and other left wing cartoonists call Powell Brown Sugar and smear him like they did Dr Rice with their left wing racist cartoons/remarks about her.

Woodward and Breslin are just the tip of the ice berg re lying left wing mediots pretending to reporters and writers.

136 posted on 04/19/2004 2:13:32 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Question: "When does a lunatic lib like Woodward quit lying!")

To: Impeach the Boy

137 posted on 04/19/2004 2:15:11 PM PDT by Howlin

Woodward's original book was good .. even if there were parts of it which were tainted left. Basically, it was the story of what the WH went through after 9/11. I have all the WP excerpts (8-9) from the book which the WP put on the internet. I printed them out and have them saved in a binder - for my grandchildren. A REAL history.

But .. I believe Woodward had a lot of info left over from the original interviews and was encouraged from somebody (like we don't know who), to make use of them - in an attempt to smear Bush. However, I have heard that he uses a lot of "unnamed sources" which bothers me. When people won't name their sources - I don't read their story.

138 posted on 04/19/2004 2:15:37 PM PDT by CyberAnt (The 2004 Election is for the SOUL of AMERICA)

If that doesn't work, bookmark it in your web browser and Realplayer should open when you go to that bookmarked URL. :)

I just bookmark the page where to "click to listen live" in my browser, as with any/all URL's, they're subject to change.

139 posted on 04/19/2004 2:15:49 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Liberalism is Communism one drink at a time. - P.J. O'Rourke)

I can't think of ANY dem who would not have contested the Carnahan fiasco, can you? Ashcroft proved what kind of man he is by his behavior then if not before. I trust him too.

140 posted on 04/19/2004 2:15:53 PM PDT by Carolinamom

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