[umgud]

The reason our borders are not under control is that they are nothing more than a long gauntlet. If the entrant makes it past the gauntlet, he is quite literally, home-free. Once inside, he/she most likely will not be deported. This has to change.

[Mr. Mojo]

While some may think that [a DMZ across our entire southern border] a desirable response to the problem, realistically it will never happen.

Considering that tens of thousands of "special interest aliens" - aliens from countries with known ties to terror like Libya, Pakistan, and Iran - have crossed our borders illegally since 9/11, it should damn well happen. And if a few of these illegal Islamic "willing workers" decide to take up the Jihadist cause - far from an unreasonable assumption - and successfully pull off a terrorist attack on the order of 9/11, the American people will demand that the "unrealistic option" (of militarizing the borders) be seriously considered.

[DoughtyOne]

While you concede the border situation, the fact still remains that a nation without border control IS NOT A NATION.

We have Iraqis, Chinese and a whole host of other foreign nationals coming across that border.

We have a leadership that actually thinks a FTAA agreement would be a good thing. All the while the decisions that govern this nation are being parcelled out to one organization after another.

We people flooding in who have no loyalty whatsoever to the United States, and have no intention of EVER showing it loyaty.

I don't think much of your plan.

[TomasUSMC]

I prefer:

When any foreign national comes across the border at a regular crossing, they are interviewed by US border guards. They're asked, DO YOU SPEAK ARABIC? Because you are being sent to Iraq!

[TomasUSMC]

We can't deport anyone if we don't have borders that stop them from coming back.

That is priority one. Borders that stop illegals. Then when we start catching illegals we keep them here working on the mojave desert canal project for 5 years or send to Iraq to drive trucks.

[boris]

"The thrust of this proposal is that we will have these people coming in no matter what we do. I think it would be better to have them come through regular crossings and be documented and pushed toward becoming true American citizens rather than having a large group of frightened, illegal, non-Americans hiding in the recesses of our society."

Put me in charge and I'll have it stopped in one year.

You may not like the means; some will call them 'draconian'--but I guar-un-tee they would work.

Yeah, the Constitution might have to be suspended, martial law imposed, or a few Amendments passed.

But I could--if in charge put an END to the plague of locusts from the South.

If **I** can do it, it can be done. QED.

--Boris

[tiki]

My thought is that they dropped the ball when they allowed amnesty before. It forced illegals beyond the border into the heartland and it would be near impossible to fix it now.

As far as keeping the borders shut down tight, I don't think anyone out East realizes just how open it is. My sister-in-law and I drove the Anapra road yesterday along the border of Mexico and she marvelled that there was so much undeveloped, raw land. There aren't enough BP agents in the country to keep it patrolled. We have so many illegals coming over that the BP can't come and get them because they are too busy getting others.

The only real solution is to support a true democratic republic in Mexico and hope that they would improve their society and they'd want to stay home.

[B4Ranch]

Pat Toomey will make an excellent Senator for the next administration.. He has no idea about the current costs to taxpayers of illegal aliens in the US and appears to think that bringing more in will stem the flow.

Remind him that our current laws say we must allow all children a seat in a classroom. If the childs parents meet the poverty limits we will feed these kids a breakfast, a lunch and an after school snack. We will also treat these children and their parents free of charge at our local hospitals for everything from splinter removal to heart surgery. If the family fits the within the rules we will give them housing assistance or even free housing. Of course the food programs are open to them also.

A question for Mr. Toomey:
Will we still be the Country of choice and still be America if we continue to make the changes forced on us by the people from other countries that came to live in America because it is the Country of Choice?

You may also be interested in this post.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1119203/posts?page=16#16

[I got the rope]

Your assuming illegals are going to ask to come in?

The problem with Mexicans coming across is the Mexican Government. Why don't we have some type of Marshall Plan for Mexico? We need to rid ourselves of all the Marxist scumbags that are running that country into the ground. The Mexicans (Indians) would not be coming over here if it wasn't so damn bad over there. We should rally Mexican Ex-patriots in this country to go back and declare independence. We could threaten Mexico with the Annexation of it's northern states.

There is already a movement of people in Austin, TX that are thinking this very thing. It may sound far-fetched for some, but the reality is that these Mexicans are proud and miss their homeland. They are tired of the corruption and the drug trade.

[knarf]

The first thought I had, even before I finished reading your idea was ... everything depends on a physical or self-imposed (by the Mexicans ... HAH!) funnel into the US.

The 'wall' is the only way to enforce that.

If China could build a Great Wall in the, I don't remember when, early somethings, with primitive technology and equipment ... why can't we?

[jpsb]

"It seems obvious to us that short of erecting a DMZ across our entire southern border we're not going to be able to stop the flow of people coming into the country from Mexico."

Giving up without even tring huh? Personally, I think we should have a fairly open border. Folks from mexico want to come and shop, see a movie, etc. no problem. But comming over to work here, illegally, yea, that's a problem and the EMPLOYERS should be punished, really punished. What ever it takes to make that happen is fine with me.

[brityank]

I expect to get some pretty emphatic rejections of this idea, but I hope to get some thoughtful responses too.

Doug =

Tell you what; take all the curtains off your windows (so folks can see what a nice place you have), the locks off you doors (allows free access like your border), and place a 'Welcome' sign on the front walkway in South Williamsport, PA. Let us know what kind of a 'home' you have in a month, if it's still standing.

[Maigrey]

How would you enforce the protocols? Make the INS stronger for the people who broke their visas?

[sixmil]

Sounds like you want to put the immigrants in charge of immigration. If we simply cut off welfare for illegals and start nailing employers that hire them, they will have no reason to come here.

[drypowder]

I agree that there is no easy answer in how best to deal with the illegal immigration problem. I feel sorry for those who are in desperation to just survive but the complicity of the Mexican gov in moving their uneducated and impoverished hordes into the US is, in my mind, nothing less than a declaration of war against the US. I say this because the US culture, as we use to know it, has changed and will continue to change as the immigration from the south continues. California is an excellent example of that fact. You may not believe a wall or some kind of barrier across our southern border will work as a viable deterrent but it is the next best thing to out right killing the intruders. Our immigration laws should be strictly enforced, that is the only way to send the message to the Mexican gov and to the people who are planning to come in illegally that "this country is not ripe for the taking", or should I say, "the over taking" as is currently their ploy.

[Jack Armstrong]

This idea of yours to grill each "dry-back" as they drive through the border is insane!
Being from Pennsylvania you have no concept of the traffic at the border in San Diego or El Paso.
There is no way to subjectively survey the mass of aliens pouring in across in cars. It is rediculous to think a government employee would bother.
///"Do you intend to become a US citizen and to reside in the US permanently?" ////"Do you intend to work in the US for a limited time?"///
While a thousand US citizens wait in line to drive back into their own country? How about we have each Mexican fill out a 40 page questionaire right there at the border crossing? We would be much better off placing them in a job that meets their skill level. We better ask what is their highest education level, or if they paln on continuing education in a state run college. We should give them an FCAT and SAT tests as they cross into our Nation.
Is there any room in your brilliant plan for the criminals who will answer with lies?
Is there any way of finding out if these aliens have potentially harmful dieases?
Will we ask if they are pregnant and only seeking asylunm for their soon to be American babies?
Should we give them a MasterCard application as well?
How about signing them up for college entrance and food stamps right there while they sit in there car?
Do we also have them fill out a form to join the democratic party & register to vote for Kerrey?
Don't forget to ask if they have any medical problems!
It might well be a good idea to have them apply for HUD!
We need to give them the option to sign up for AFLAC or Blue Cross too!
They will need a cell phone don't you think? Perhaps the guy with the over coat can hand them an ALLTEL digital Camera phone as they drive thru and ask them if you can hear me now?! They will need an adress in order to get a valid Winn Dixie Customer Reward card! Don't forget to ask them if they golf! They will need to have membership at the local Country Club Too!
///They would have to show a tourist visa ///
I don't think the ones packed into the tomato truck at midnight will be worring about showing anyone a valid temporary tourist visa.
---- Doug Loss---- How are you going to force criminals to obey the law? It is much easier to sneak in un noticed and avoid all the paper red tape insanity!
Illegal aliens are criminals! Criminals must be permanently identified with a microchip implant upon deportation. Further infractions will become more severe. All illlegal
criminals should be treated as hostile enemies until the war on terror is over!
This will force all the soft Americans who have warm feelings for these offenders to get tough on the Mexican Criminals invaiding our Nation.

[moehoward]

The vast majority of the Illegal Alien crowd do not care what we would like and will ignore any program or law that attempts to regulate them once here.

Fences work. Period.

[ckilmer]

that the US cannot defend its borders is a BIG LIE. It wouldn't be that tough militarily. The trouble is there is no political consensus currently to do so. But the lack of political consensus is mostly at the top.

both parties are afraid to offend the latin vote.

but superseding that the upper level dems see the illegals as cheap votes and the upper level pubs see the illegals as cheap labor.

in both senses the the USA in general and the middle class in particular is being sold out.

the dems are currently tapping into that middle class malaise in words but the upper level dems are probably more pro illegal than the upper level pubs. the rank and file in both parties is solidly anti illegal for all kinds of reasons.

[Penner]

No border = no nation = one-world government.

Immigration can be controlled - we just don't have the will to do it. Apparently Pennsylvania hasn't been overrun yet like the southwestern states have nor have its citizens received the bill to pay for the social costs of immigration. When they do they will be outraged. California, which has the world's fifth or sixth largest economy, is being driven to bankruptcy because its taxpayers can no longer afford to support poor immigrants.

If we don't control our southern border America will be another Mexico. Is that what you want?

[Marine Inspector]

It seems obvious to us that short of erecting a DMZ across our entire southern border we're not going to be able to stop the flow of people coming into the country from Mexico.

Wrong, wrong, wrong.

It can be controlled; unfortunately, our political leaders in Washington do not have the will to do so.

Just enforce the existing laws and cut off all welfare and benefits to illegals.