Iraqi: Most Muslim intellectuals for terror

WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Saturday, April 17, 2004

[JohnHuang2]

Nearly all Islamic intellectuals and leaders advocate terrorism, asserts an Arab columnist.

Khaled Kishtainy, writing in the London Arabic-language daily Al-Sharq Al-Awsat, says talk of "love and peace in Islam" is just a cover for violence, reports the Middle East Media Research Institute

The columnist, of Iraqi origin, says Islamic terrorism has "many roots and causes, and much has already been written about this. But I have personal input on this matter."

"I place on the Islamic intellectuals and leaders of Islamic organizations part of the responsibility for [this phenomenon] of Islamic terrorism, as nearly all of them advocate violence, and repress anyone who casts doubts upon this," he writes.

"Naturally, every so often they have written about the love and peace of Islam – but they did so, at best, for purposes of propaganda and defense of Islam."

Their basic position, he continues, "is that this religion was established by the sword, acts by the sword, and will triumph by the sword, and that any doubt regarding this constitutes a conspiracy against the Muslims."

His best proof of this, he says is the 1984 world congress on "The Nonviolent Political Arab Struggle" in Amman, Jordan, which he called "nothing but hypocrisy and propaganda."

Kishtainy writes: "In the congress documents in the English [version] they published my speech, but they removed it from the edition in Arabic!!! All this was in an attempt to deceive the Westerners, and not in order to educate the Arabs to peace."

The columnist says it's his opinion that the sword "played a minor role in Islam's triumph over polytheism" and Muslims will only lose by advocating violence.

"This is due first of all to the military supremacy of others, and second because in this generation the alternative of nonviolent struggle is a more effective weapon," he says. "I have adopted this perception and called it by the Islamic name 'Civil Jihad.'"

Kishtainy says he tried to establish an organization in London to promote his views among Muslims but was rebuffed.

"I contacted some Arab ambassadors and activists in Islamic organizations, and all I got from them was their turning their backs, and even threats," he says. "Only three Muslims shared my belief – one from Ethiopia and two from Iraq. Over the course of two years, we struggled [for the sake of this goal]; then we lost hope and gave up."

He says most of the Muslims he and his colleague contacted "were of the opinion that the Westerners are sons of dogs who understand only force, and that the Muslims have no choice but to strap on their weapon and fight."

"Some cooperated with us in private meetings [but] after the meeting was over asked us not to mention anything of it to others – as if nonviolence and peace were a kind of adultery that must be hidden," he says. "This was the atmosphere that helped the emergence of the terrorists, the suicide bombers, and all those who use weapons and explosives."

He also wrote a book on his views but could not find a publisher.

Finally a publisher in Amman, Jordan distributed it, but in an abbreviated edition "replete with mistakes."

"The publisher did not manage to distribute it in a courageous way, perhaps because some Arab governments prevented him from doing so," he says. "Even the Institute of Arab Unity refrained from publishing my research on this subject in its journal."

He concludes: "I reiterate that the Arab and Islamic ideologues and media leaders bear much of the responsibility for the involvement in terrorism and violence of the Muslims of the world. Of course, they will reject my statement arrogantly. But my statement can be tested: The draft of my book is still in my office in two languages, Arabic and English, waiting for someone to come along and publish it. I offer it for free, without asking a fee for my work."

[JohnHuang2]

Saturday, April 17, 2004

[GeronL]

Something that makes you say hhhhhhmmmmmmmmm.... and then makes you say bomb the $%##@@!

[Mark17]

Iraqi: Most Muslim intellectuals for terror

Most? I thought it was all of them.

[goldstategop]

There are no "moderate" Islamists. The species doesn't exist in the Muslim world. To them, the only dialogue with the infidels they will accept is through the language of terror and violence. Its high time we in the West understood our enemy is completely sincere in his hatred of us and our civilization.

[ScaniaBoy]

And most academics in European Universities support(ed) communism in one or other form, often in the most homicidal Stalinst interpretation.

The difference (between us and Islam) may be that most Europeans and US Citizens don't listen and care what our academics in their ivory towers say and do.

[bluefish]

And most academics in European Universities support(ed) communism in one or other form, often in the most homicidal Stalinst interpretation.

Weird thing too.. Time and again, both have proven to be impractical and ineffective at doing anything for the human condition. Just proves they are all mentally deranged and / or evil. No rational person can argue otherwise, given the preponderance of historical evidence.

[river rat]

Militant Islam, a cult flirting with extinction.....
I prefer sooner, rather than later....

Semper Fi

[JohnHuang2]

Amen.

[ChocChipCookie]

Here's hoping that Mr. Kishtainy has his life insurance paid up. This won't go over too well on the "Arab street."

[claudiustg]

---The difference (between us and Islam) may be that most Europeans and US Citizens don't listen and care what our academics in their ivory towers say and do.---

Neither do most Islamics, I would guess. They seem to respond their Imams rather than an intellectual trend of any kind. The Imams see that Islam is finished as a main attraction if Westernization continues, so they incite the faithful. Anyway we reached the end of our demographic string, just at the time their population explodes.

I think the Islamists have borrowed the tactics of revolutionary Marxism, but their collectivism is of Mohammed.

[tessalu]

USA needs to wise up and stop playing games.

[DustyMoment]

There are no "moderate" Islamists. The species doesn't exist in the Muslim world.

My thoughts exactly. All calls for "moderate Muslims" to rise up and repulse the extremists are little more than spitting into the wind.

[dennisw]

The original---->>

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/001588.php

April 16, 2004

Muslim Columnist: Islamic Talk of 'Love and Peace in Islam' is Just a Cover for Violence

Khaled Kishtainy

In an article titled 'Who's Responsible for the Islamic Terrorists?' that appeared in the London Arabic-language daily Al-Sharq Al-Awsat, columnist Khaled Kishtainy,(1) of Iraqi origin, discussed the leading Muslim ideologues' positive attitudes towards the use of violence. The following is the article:(2) Islamist Talk of 'Love and Peace in Islam' is Just a Cover for Violence

"[The phenomenon] called Islamic terrorism has many roots and causes, and much has already been written about this. But I have personal input on this matter.

"I place on the Islamic intellectuals and leaders of Islamic organizations part of the responsibility for [this phenomenon] of Islamic terrorism, as nearly all of them advocate violence, and repress anyone who casts doubts upon this. Naturally, every so often they have written about the love and peace of Islam - but they did so, at best, for purposes of propaganda and defense of Islam. Their basic position is that this religion was established by the sword, acts by the sword, and will triumph by the sword, and that any doubt regarding this constitutes a conspiracy against the Muslims.

"The best proof of what I am saying is the 1984 world congress on 'The Nonviolent Political Arab Struggle' in Amman, that was nothing but hypocrisy and propaganda. In the congress documents in the English [version], they published my speech, but they removed it from the edition in Arabic!!! All this was in an attempt to deceive the Westerners, and not in order to educate the Arabs to peace.

"In my opinion, the sword played a minor role in Islam's triumph over polytheism. Moreover, the Muslims will [only] lose by their adherence to the perception [advocating] violence. This is due first of all to the military supremacy of others, and second because in this generation the alternative of nonviolent struggle is a more effective weapon. I have adopted this perception and called it by the Islamic name 'Civil Jihad.'"

My Attempts to Promote 'Civil Jihad' were Rejected

"I tried to establish in London an organization to disseminate this perception among the Muslims. I contacted some Arab ambassadors and activists in Islamic organizations, and all I got from them was their turning their backs, and even threats. Only three Muslims shared my belief - one from Ethiopia and two from Iraq. Over the course of two years, we struggled [for the sake of this goal]; then we lost hope and gave up.

"Most of the people we contacted were of the opinion that the Westerners are sons of dogs who understand only force, and that the Muslims have no choice but to strap on their weapon and fight. Some cooperated with us in private meetings [but] after the meeting was over asked us not to mention anything of it to others - as if nonviolence and peace were a kind of adultery that must be hidden. This was the atmosphere that helped the emergence of the terrorists, the suicide bombers, and all those who use weapons and explosives."

Some Publishers Wouldn't Allow The Draft Of My Book Into Their Office

"In the framework of this personal effort, I devoted a great deal of time to writing a book about nonviolence. It is the only book that presents in depth, in Arabic, the perceptions and methods of Civil Jihad. A large section of it is devoted to peace and nonviolence in Islam.

"In vain did my friend Anis Sayegh try to find a publisher for the book. Some [publishers] refused to even permit the draft of the book to enter their office. Finally, the Dar Al-Karmel [publishers] in Amman put it out (after omitting many paragraphs), and even that was in an abbreviated edition, replete with mistakes.

"The publisher did not manage to distribute it in a courageous way, perhaps because some Arab governments prevented him from doing so. Even the Institute of Arab Unity refrained from publishing my research on this subject in its journal.

"I reiterate that the Arab and Islamic ideologues and media leaders bear much of the responsibility for the involvement in terrorism and violence of the Muslims of the world. Of course, they will reject my statement arrogantly. But my statement can be tested: The draft of my book is still in my office in two languages, Arabic and English, waiting for someone to come along and publish it. I offer it for free, without asking a fee for my work."

Endnotes:
(1) For more on Khalid Kishtainy, please see MEMRI Special Dispatch No. 545, July 31, 2003, 'An Iraqi Intellectual in London: Arab Nationalists' Interference in Iraqi Affairs Will Pound the Final Nail into Iraq's Coffin', http://memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Page=subjects&Area=reform&ID=SP54503.
(2) Al-Sharq Al-Awsat (London), April 11, 2004.

[Paul_B]

>The columnist says it's his opinion that the sword "played a minor role in Islam's triumph over polytheism"

That may be true, but it sure played a major role in its temporary triumph over Christendom. It seems Mr. Kishtainy has not yet finished his intellectual journey.

> Muslims will only lose by advocating violence.

But that's ultimately all they have. Take it away and the game's over.

[madison10]

That does it. I am now officially praying for the demise of Islam & against the evil that is in bed with it. Enough of this PC, Religion of Peace, Allah is God, bilge. They (terrorist Iraqis & Arabs) are no different than the Persians/Babylonians of old. There is nothing new under the sun, so why wait until we turn into slaves of radical Muslims before acting.

There are some beautiful people among them & I'm praying for their conversion to the one True God. Ann Coulter was right.

[Gritty]

Their basic position, he continues, "is that this religion was established by the sword, acts by the sword, and will triumph by the sword, and that any doubt regarding this constitutes a conspiracy against the Muslims."

This should come as no surprise. It has been the Muslim modus operandi for around 14 centuries, with only very minor breather-breaks in between.

"There is no fundamental Islam. There is only Islam"-M.Sharon

[Wormwood]

Iraqi: Most Muslim intellectuals for terror

Most? I thought it was all of them.

Yep. Both of 'em.

[joesnuffy]

Intellectuals...those who study...and what is it they are 'intellectual' about?
Why it's The Koran.... no doubt

So if one is to be well studied in Islam one must eventually come to violence as the means
with which to 'spread' Islam...The source of terrorism is Saudi Arabia...Mecca ..Medina

The cry of Religion of Peace is the means by which 'the holy Muslim warrior' infiltrates builds mosques, Islamic centers
and training camps..and puts the 'to be conquered' off guard...and allows fools to open the door for them and turn over their lands to them..

Of course on the other hand...they can be very usefull to those who need a 'real enemies' inside their nations..in order to establish an uber police state...very usefull indeed...

So we'll leave the light on ...ya here....(or at least the back door...our southern borders wide open for y'all)

Wellcome to the NWO....thanks in part to the Reichstag Islamic Front....

imo

[Tilly]

Glad you posted that.

You know, Muslim intellectuals want terrorism. US and European intellectuals want peace at any price, preferably any price paid by the US.

Over in the middle east, Wahhabbi's are running madrassas aimed at teaching their kids to praise Allah and blow up Americans.

Here in the states ... our kids are being taught things like ... self esteem. Multiculteralism.

You do the math. It's depressing to me.

[sweetliberty]

"Nearly all Islamic intellectuals and leaders advocate terrorism,"

So do most American intellectuals (read college professors and self-appointed know-it-alls) and democRAT leaders (who also fancy themselves incredibly smart intellectual).