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Will law silence the church? Bill that would outlaw the Bible and Catechism in Canada passes House
Washington Times ^
| April 2004
Posted on 04/15/2004 12:47:44 AM PDT by NYer
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To: NYer
And the bill has not yet passed the Senate!Different legislation. Ontario Human Rights Board legislation rather than Federal was used . C-250 makes a change to the Constitution by adding "sexual orientation". That's all it does, but it changes things dramatically.
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posted on
04/15/2004 10:36:16 AM PDT
by
Snowyman
To: conniew
Connie,
God bless you for organizing this. I hope it's not too late, either!
I cannot believe I just found out about it. I will try to be there, if even for just a while. I saw your web page about it--perhaps I can organize some petition in my community, although I won't be able to really get people to go to the rally at this point, I dont' think.
To: scory; CSM; Valin
"Agree with those who tie CFR in with the war against religion in general and Christianity in particular."
So do I. Both hate speech laws and CFR relate to the most fundamental of all constitutional rights--the right to free speech. Without that, the others fall away quickly.
For example, thanks to CFR, interest groups would now not be able to purchase commercials to point out a politician's favoring of hate speech laws that have the effect of "outlawing" the Bible, or a politician's favoring of the repeal of the Second Amendment.
All ten are inextricably tied together and they all have been relentlessly chipped away at. The only one that has grown is the one that is not an Amendment at all, but is just a mere "penumbra," the right to privacy.
Valin, would you please ping the CFR list? thanks. :)
To: CSM; THUNDER ROAD
"The whole modern world has divided itself into Conservatives and Progressives. The business of Progressives is to go on making mistakes. The business of the Conservatives is to prevent the mistakes from being corrected." - G.K. Chesterton, ILN, 4/19/24
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posted on
04/15/2004 10:54:08 AM PDT
by
Aestus Veritatis
(The power of the scientific method is in the mortification of experimenter bias.)
To: vandykelastone
Well you better tell these guys then.
Canadian Convention of Southern Baptists
Looks like a lot of Southern Baptist affiliated churches to me. Of course considering the SBC wants to take away Southern from our name now (un-PC apparently) who knows what they'll do next.
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posted on
04/15/2004 11:08:20 AM PDT
by
billbears
(Deo Vindice.)
To: NYer
I don't know if the numbers exist to support armed rebellion or not. I am certain that the organization needed to make such action effective does not yet exist. I'm not even sure there would be a "civil war". Would those who are pushing for these laws be willing to fight for them? Would the military and police forces be willing to use force in support of such an attempt to force such laws on the nation? This is all quite hypothetical right now. But I think that, if the attempt is made to enact such laws here as are being considered in Canada that the possibility of armed resistance passes from the realm of the hypothetical to the very real. At that point a whole lot of people are going to have to make the decision as to whether liberty is worth fighting for or not and if it is worth fighting for what are they going to do exactly to defend it?
It should also be kept in mind that numbers are less important than organization and timing. The Bolsheviks numbered only a few thousand and came to control a nation of many millions. In our own revolution only about 1/3 of the populace supported the rebellion and nearly the same proportion actively opposed it.
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posted on
04/15/2004 11:15:38 AM PDT
by
scory
To: NYer
I wonder: if this abomination becomes law in Canada, will the Canadian cultural Left attempt to outlaw the
Koran as "hate speech" too?
You know, that little volume that exhorts its readers to kill infidels and calls Jews sons of apes and pigs?
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posted on
04/15/2004 11:16:41 AM PDT
by
bassmaner
(Let's take the word "liberal" back from the commies!!)
To: little jeremiah
the Torah is hatespeech, the Talmud is hatespeech... The Koran, however, is the most beautiful composition you'll ever read. (Here's where my tag should be closed)
The sad part is many of the Canadians I know (mostly "easterners", but not necessarily Quebec'ers) truly believe that implying in any form that homosexual behavior is anything but completely normal and acceptable IS hatespeech. They're mostly under 40 and have grown up being taught that homosexuality is normal. Sad.
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posted on
04/15/2004 11:39:53 AM PDT
by
FourPeas
To: painter
Among other things, some of which aren't going to be very pleasant. I agree in the long run.
To: FourPeas
To: SpookBrat
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posted on
04/15/2004 12:22:25 PM PDT
by
MeekOneGOP
(Become a monthly donor on FR. No amount is too small and monthly giving is the way to go !)
To: NYer
It's simple, tell the Court this is against the Quran and they will bend over backward, (for God knows what).
To: FourPeas
Actually the Koran also considers homosexual acts an abomination. But I didn't mention it because I am not feeling very favorably disposed towards the practitioners of Islam at the moment.
Note this thread linked below, a sizable percentage of college students are starting to speak out against the liberal monolith:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1117878/posts
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posted on
04/15/2004 2:10:34 PM PDT
by
little jeremiah
(...men of intemperate minds can not be free. Their passions forge their fetters.)
To: ought-six
That's the surest route to Civil War II.
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posted on
04/15/2004 2:35:14 PM PDT
by
TexasRepublic
(Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition!)
To: little jeremiah
Actually the Koran also considers homosexual acts an abomination. Yep. Yet those who practice PC (and I understand that's not you) wouldn't include it because Islam is afterall, a religion of peace. Yetch.
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posted on
04/15/2004 3:04:22 PM PDT
by
FourPeas
To: NYer
Thanks for the link. I just left a message with the Ministry of Tourism.
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posted on
04/15/2004 4:33:06 PM PDT
by
TopQuark
To: TopQuark
Folks, I spoke with some of my Canadian friends tonight. Things look very desperate as far as losing their freedom of religion and other civil liberties. We need to keep putting pressure on the Canadian government to back down, because it's headed south to America next.
To: bassmaner
I wonder: if this abomination becomes law in Canada, will the Canadian cultural Left attempt to outlaw the Koran as "hate speech" too? Of course not! That would be 'hateful'! (/sarcasm)
(Excellent question and observation!)
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posted on
04/15/2004 6:07:50 PM PDT
by
NYer
(O Promise of God from age to age. O Flower of the Gospel!)
To: TexasRepublic
That's the surest route to Civil War II.
Not possible in the People's Kleptocracy of Canada. It is the only country in the world that not only imposes gun control on its citizens, but on its military as well.
To: Mr. Silverback
"Y'all need to see this..."
Thank you for the most important ping I've ever received. This feels very - prophetic....
If this doesn't inspire both Americans and Canadians to finally throw the socialists out, then nothing ever will.
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