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Help me rebut my lib uncle's scathing Bush thrashing (how would you respond?)
a flaming neocommunist ^ | 4 11 04 | paulsy

Posted on 04/11/2004 6:26:12 AM PDT by paulsy

My uncle and I have it out regularly and he sent me this note last night. I have ideas on what to say to him but wonder if anyone has ideas on what to write back.

"Paul- The Shrub you so blindly follow is a mean-spirited greedy idiot, and you can't blame mainstream media sources for finally recognizing his lack of clothing. ..."

He was not elected by a majority, he was anointed by a fiercely right wing supreme court majority, most of whom owe their positions to the Shrub man's father and party, undermining the court's legitimacy and that of the Shrub's administration. He has kept the country in fear since 9/11 and sought to campaign as a WAR president, because most war presidents have an easier time passing legislation and getting reelected. He even created a war for that purpose. Remember, it was leaked before the mid-term election, by a White House source, that the sudden irrational run up to the war with Iraq was a matter of "marketing". On the way to Iraq he undid decades' of diplomacy and alienated all of our traditional allies and others whose support we might have expected, except for those he bought or frightened into being "willing". Now, as the biggest gunslinger on the block, we as a country can expect to be the target of every oppressed political animal in the world with weapons and imagination. Oh yeah, we've also lost our position (as if we ever really held or deserved it) as the beacon of hope and freedom for the world. We are undeniably a world bully now, and there is no realistic chance of a meaningful international consensus on any issue while the Shrub Man speaks for us.

You might be thinking of saying "well, Sadam was bad and his demise and capture are good things." (Shrub Man borrows from Martha Stewart, if you didn't notice.) The same thing could have, and I think would have, happened had Shrub Man not announced to the world that he was going to do it with or without international support. Indeed, for many years even Arab countries wanted to get rid of him but we( R's and D's) helped put Sadam in power and protected him.

And just think, so far at least five times as many people have died in the Shrub's dirty little war as died in 9/11. ( Hell, the tobacco industry kills as many people as died in 9/11, EVERY 2 1/2 DAYS). People continue dying every day in the war while Shrub Man hunkers down in the safest and most luxurious places on earth, bellowing "BRING IT ON !".

As for the different views on whether Shrub Man's tax policies add up, I certainly don't know whose math is right. I know the Washington Times is not considered by most people to be objective or main stream; it is decidedly right wing. (Wasn't it started up to punish the Washington Post for exposing Watergate?) I'm no fan of Newsweek either; with very few exceptions it repeats whatever the powers-that-be want it to. However, wasn't Newsweek reporting on the total federal income tax bills while the W. Times only mentions the effect of isolated provisions? If so, both of their math calculations could be correct, but the W Times is comparing apples to oranges. A more meaningful analysis would include the necessary increases in state, local and sales taxes. The fact is Shrub Man has not only made the tax structure more regressive, his wildly irresponsible spending and tax cutting for the rich have greatly increased the tax burden for future generations, and put the economy in peril for the foreseeable future.

Paul, what I think is going on is that the mainstream media and a lot of the country have been giving Shrub Man "WAR president" status since 9/11, along with the benefit of every doubt, since that is what happens when a president is responding to an emergency. Shrub Man, and his shrubbers, took full advantage of this status to advance their political agenda (check out wages, health care, education, the environment, individual rights, or anything else they could sell out) without the normal scrutiny radical changes would normally be subject to, and are running the country into the dirt. Shrub Man killed his golden goose by trying to crassly campaign as a "WAR president", and he's been called on it. He can't fool most of the people all of the time. Now, finally, the normal scrutiny is returning, eyes are opening, the emperor is nekkid, and he is only starting to get the attention he deserves. Open your eyes and get used to it. Julian is right and you seem so be looking for some sand to put your head in.

I think there may be other explanations for your reduced tax bill, if you would be candid about it. I know my tax bill is down, but that's because as a lawyer representing poor and working people who've had their civil rights violated under a regime that favors only rich and corporate interests, my income is down. I give Shrub Man full credit.

I'm yellow dog with a full bladder who's found his Shrub. BRING IT ON!

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism
KEYWORDS: 2000election; angryliberals; bushbashers; idiotuncle; iraqwar
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To: paulsy
It's impossible to argue with ignorance. Save your breath for someone who will listen.
61 posted on 04/11/2004 7:10:00 AM PDT by Minuteman23
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To: paulsy
Send him this

http://members.cox.net/macallan_the/GW/GWBush1_Start.htm
62 posted on 04/11/2004 7:10:54 AM PDT by PaulaB (Jesus Christ is the only Way)
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To: paulsy
Maybe start with explainin how the Electoral College voting system works,(remind him how the shrub actually got more votes than bubbafucco in both of his elections). Also, did your Uncle ever see the final tallies in Florida that his left wing media concluded?
63 posted on 04/11/2004 7:14:33 AM PDT by jungleboy
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To: paulsy
This might be a good time for an application of the wise adage, "Never argue with a fool -- bet him money."
64 posted on 04/11/2004 7:14:48 AM PDT by Ichneumon
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To: paulsy
You have my sympathy...I have the same problem w/my aunt. Ignoring her works for me.
65 posted on 04/11/2004 7:17:39 AM PDT by Carolinamom
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To: paulsy
Wish him a happy and holy Easter.
66 posted on 04/11/2004 7:21:30 AM PDT by rmgatto (lux et veritas (not heat))
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To: paulsy
People like this are usually a waste of time...but...

He was not elected by a majority

He WAS elected by a majority of ELECTORs. That's how it works.

he was anointed by a fiercely right wing supreme court majority

The same "fiercely right wing" court that constantly upholds the "right" to abortion?

most of whom owe their positions to the Shrub man's father and party, This may be true. But if he considers Souter and Sandy "fiercely right wing", he is a first class moron.

He has kept the country in fear since 9/11 I'm not in fear. Perhaps he and his liberal panty-waist friends need a big soothing hug. Be sure to ask him where he keeps his testicles.

From here on, he gets really loony.

67 posted on 04/11/2004 7:21:49 AM PDT by Grit (www.NRSC.org)
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To: paulsy
After having him checked for rabbies and distemper, I would have him neutered so he cannot spread the disease.

Then perhaps change your name and move to another town.
68 posted on 04/11/2004 7:27:38 AM PDT by Edit35
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To: paulsy
Is your uncle Chris Mathews??? I would say that he better get used to another 4 years! These people are not worth your time or blood pressure. The guy is just another brain dead Dem who speaks in cliches. You may inform him that Kerry is worth $750,000,000 from outsourced cheap child non-living wage funds? Ask him if he is going to vote for Dean or this phony???

Pray for W and The Truth

69 posted on 04/11/2004 7:29:14 AM PDT by bray (Hey Yaaaawn, why don't YOU give $750,000,000 to the gummit!)
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To: Manic_Episode
I endorse your recommendation!
70 posted on 04/11/2004 7:32:13 AM PDT by verity (A Vote for Kerry is a vote for National Suicide!)
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To: paulsy
My prayers for you - the guy is a hopeless, delusional lefty.

Unfortunately liberal thougtht is shaped via emotion; common sense is not a realistic alternative.

No matter what you say, no matter how much you attempt to reason with him, you will fail. They travel the road that is least reasoned.

He is blind to the truth and will follow the holy grail of liberalism wherever it should lead him.

People like him finally "get it" when world wars are upon us. It is not in their mindset to believe that these wars could have been avoided if their cause was addressed early and forcefully.

Just tell him to pick up some history books that detail what lead up to WWII; ask him to study the real story of what forced the Christian crusades. We are reliving those times once again - it is as it was.

If he is intellectually honest - he may see things as they are after doing so.
71 posted on 04/11/2004 7:32:25 AM PDT by PigRigger (Send donations to http://www.AdoptAPlatoon.org)
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To: paulsy
I would put his e-mail address on spam alert, so he can't e-mail you anymore.
I would NOT try to communicate with this fool.
If he is that stupid, you will NOT be able to change his mind.
The best thing to do is just ignore him, and save your sanity.
72 posted on 04/11/2004 7:35:58 AM PDT by DeaconRed (God Bless our Troops! ! ! ! !)
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To: paulsy
Sounds like Ted Kennedy after happy hour.
73 posted on 04/11/2004 7:41:08 AM PDT by blastdad51 (Proud father of an Enduring Freedom vet, and friend of a soldier lost in Afghanistan)
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To: paulsy
You could even block his emails - no response from you will drive him crazier than he is.
74 posted on 04/11/2004 7:45:09 AM PDT by Let's Roll (Kerry is a self-confessed unindicted war criminal or ... a traitor to his country in a time of war)
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To: paulsy
He has kept the country in fear since 9/11...

In fear of what? The only fear I can think of is that the great unwashed will believe this kind of BS and vote in our demise.

Of course, folks with a criminal bent are always in fear of discovery, and he IS a lawyer (leech)....

75 posted on 04/11/2004 7:51:59 AM PDT by JimRed (Fight election fraud! Volunteer as a local poll watcher, challenger or district official.)
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To: paulsy
The answer is very easy at this time of year. It is Easter! Simply tell him that you, and you are sure, all other right thinking folks, forgive him.

Tell him you understand his pain and self-loathing. Tell him you understand his shame at having supported Willie, the lying scumbag and lying time and time again to support him. Tell him that it is natural for him to take that self-hatred and point it at some innocemt (in this case, Bush) in an effort to relieve his own pain.

Tell him that you know he would aim the blind self-disgust as anyone else and if it wasn't Bush, it might be another relative, his boss, a baseball player, an advisor (like a broker or tax preparer). Tell him that he should not be concerned about his foolish stupidity and should understand that it is irrational and without factual support. Tell him that, despite all of this, you forgive him. He may be too stupid to understand forgiveness but at least it will piss him off.

76 posted on 04/11/2004 7:54:16 AM PDT by Tacis
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To: paulsy
Paulsy, there is one thing I have learned about people if I have learned anything. You can not educate the willfully ignorant.
77 posted on 04/11/2004 7:56:48 AM PDT by Jagdgewehr
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To: paulsy
Don't waste your breath. Just pack your bags and move 3000 miles away from him. That's the only way you can get along with them.
78 posted on 04/11/2004 7:58:37 AM PDT by Lynda
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To: paulsy
About I could come up is, "I'm trying to see things from your point of view, but, I can't get my head that far up my ass."
79 posted on 04/11/2004 8:02:55 AM PDT by don-o (Stop Freeploading. Do the right thing and sign up for a monthly donation.)
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To: LS
true. in fact, clinton failed to get a majority of the
votes in either of his "victories".
80 posted on 04/11/2004 8:05:31 AM PDT by smonk
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