Posted on 04/11/2004 6:26:12 AM PDT by paulsy
My uncle and I have it out regularly and he sent me this note last night. I have ideas on what to say to him but wonder if anyone has ideas on what to write back.
"Paul- The Shrub you so blindly follow is a mean-spirited greedy idiot, and you can't blame mainstream media sources for finally recognizing his lack of clothing. ..."
He was not elected by a majority, he was anointed by a fiercely right wing supreme court majority, most of whom owe their positions to the Shrub man's father and party, undermining the court's legitimacy and that of the Shrub's administration. He has kept the country in fear since 9/11 and sought to campaign as a WAR president, because most war presidents have an easier time passing legislation and getting reelected. He even created a war for that purpose. Remember, it was leaked before the mid-term election, by a White House source, that the sudden irrational run up to the war with Iraq was a matter of "marketing". On the way to Iraq he undid decades' of diplomacy and alienated all of our traditional allies and others whose support we might have expected, except for those he bought or frightened into being "willing". Now, as the biggest gunslinger on the block, we as a country can expect to be the target of every oppressed political animal in the world with weapons and imagination. Oh yeah, we've also lost our position (as if we ever really held or deserved it) as the beacon of hope and freedom for the world. We are undeniably a world bully now, and there is no realistic chance of a meaningful international consensus on any issue while the Shrub Man speaks for us.
You might be thinking of saying "well, Sadam was bad and his demise and capture are good things." (Shrub Man borrows from Martha Stewart, if you didn't notice.) The same thing could have, and I think would have, happened had Shrub Man not announced to the world that he was going to do it with or without international support. Indeed, for many years even Arab countries wanted to get rid of him but we( R's and D's) helped put Sadam in power and protected him.
And just think, so far at least five times as many people have died in the Shrub's dirty little war as died in 9/11. ( Hell, the tobacco industry kills as many people as died in 9/11, EVERY 2 1/2 DAYS). People continue dying every day in the war while Shrub Man hunkers down in the safest and most luxurious places on earth, bellowing "BRING IT ON !".
As for the different views on whether Shrub Man's tax policies add up, I certainly don't know whose math is right. I know the Washington Times is not considered by most people to be objective or main stream; it is decidedly right wing. (Wasn't it started up to punish the Washington Post for exposing Watergate?) I'm no fan of Newsweek either; with very few exceptions it repeats whatever the powers-that-be want it to. However, wasn't Newsweek reporting on the total federal income tax bills while the W. Times only mentions the effect of isolated provisions? If so, both of their math calculations could be correct, but the W Times is comparing apples to oranges. A more meaningful analysis would include the necessary increases in state, local and sales taxes. The fact is Shrub Man has not only made the tax structure more regressive, his wildly irresponsible spending and tax cutting for the rich have greatly increased the tax burden for future generations, and put the economy in peril for the foreseeable future.
Paul, what I think is going on is that the mainstream media and a lot of the country have been giving Shrub Man "WAR president" status since 9/11, along with the benefit of every doubt, since that is what happens when a president is responding to an emergency. Shrub Man, and his shrubbers, took full advantage of this status to advance their political agenda (check out wages, health care, education, the environment, individual rights, or anything else they could sell out) without the normal scrutiny radical changes would normally be subject to, and are running the country into the dirt. Shrub Man killed his golden goose by trying to crassly campaign as a "WAR president", and he's been called on it. He can't fool most of the people all of the time. Now, finally, the normal scrutiny is returning, eyes are opening, the emperor is nekkid, and he is only starting to get the attention he deserves. Open your eyes and get used to it. Julian is right and you seem so be looking for some sand to put your head in.
I think there may be other explanations for your reduced tax bill, if you would be candid about it. I know my tax bill is down, but that's because as a lawyer representing poor and working people who've had their civil rights violated under a regime that favors only rich and corporate interests, my income is down. I give Shrub Man full credit.
I'm yellow dog with a full bladder who's found his Shrub. BRING IT ON!
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He was not elected by a majority, he was anointed by a fiercely right wing supreme court majority, most of whom owe their positions to the Shrub man's father and party, undermining the court's legitimacy and that of the Shrub's administration. He was elected by the majority of electoral votes precisely like every other American Presidential election. It seems that the weak-minded comment also applies here.
....a fiercely right wing supreme court majority.... Clearly, the U.S. Supreme Court is the most liberal in our history. It appears that your uncle is far to close-minded and uninformed to carry on a rational political discussion. The weak minded comment also applies here,
He has kept the country in fear since 9/11 and sought to campaign as a WAR president, because most war presidents have an easier time passing legislation and getting reelected. He even created a war for that purpose. Cripes! Not only is your uncle an unbelievably weak and narrow-minded example of a classical classically brainwashed person, but he also appears to be very stupid. I hope it doesn't run in the family, but this post certainly makes a person wonder.
Tell him not to waste his time on you and that you are very concerned about his mental state.
Doesn't mean you can't see your uncle on Christmas and other family gatherings however. For this year's Christmas gift, I would give him some conservative-themed books. He'll probably never read them but at least you'll have the satisfaction of putting money in the pockets of the good guys while satisfying your Christmas giving obligation to your uncle.
I did this to my sister and it shut her up big time.
After the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, which killed six and injured 1,000; President Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.
After the 1995 bombing in Saudi Arabia, which killed five U.S. military personnel; Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.
After the 1996 Khobar Towers bombing in Saudi Arabia, which killed 19 and injured 200 U.S. military personnel; Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.
After the 1998 bombing of U.S. embassies in Africa, which killed 224 and injured 5,000; Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.
If Clinton had not pardon and released 16 convicted terrorist in August, 1999, the message to terrorist world wide would be much different.
After the 2000 bombing of the USS Cole, which killed 17 and injured 39 U.S. sailors; Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.
If Clinton had kept his promise, an estimated 3,000+ people in New York and Washington, D.C. that are now dead would be Alive today.
Neither was Clinton (either time- elected with a plurality
He has kept the country in fear since 9/11 and sought to campaign as a WAR presiden.
Well like it or not he IS a war president. The reason he is a war president is because liberals allowed our defenses (and intelligence capabilities) to deteriorate so much an attack was inevitable.
On the way to Iraq he undid decades' of diplomacy and alienated all of our traditional allies and others whose support we might have expected, except for those he bought or frightened into being "willing"
Yeah the same type of diplomacy that led to the murder of 3000 innocents on 9-11
Oh yeah, we've also lost our position (as if we ever really held or deserved it) as the beacon of hope and freedom for the world.
As if we ever really deserved it????Who should have had this reputation if not the US? And in whose eyes did we "lose" the reputation? Nothing more pathetic than an old commie pining away for the days of paradise lost. Tell me, if we didn't get it right- who did.
Indeed, for many years even Arab countries wanted to get rid of him but we( R's and D's) helped put Sadam in power and protected him.
Who the F cares what they wantedto do. What matters is how they plan on dealing with him now. Things change over the course of 20 years. And besides if I take the argument that we put him there, I guess we should just wring our hands and watch him help our enemies. Does your Uncle really believe anybody should be able to do anything because of decisions 20 years ago?
And just think, so far at least five times as many people have died in the Shrub's dirty little war as died in 9/11. ( Hell, the tobacco industry kills as many people as died in 9/11, EVERY 2 1/2 DAYS).
Who the F fed you uncle these stats? The big tobacco argument is a typical lefty non sequitor. And did 15,000 Americans die in the war so far? Last I counted it was 600. (Oh i forgot in the lefty "logic" all lives count equally sorry they don't!).
I could go on and on. Your uncle may be a nice, "moral" man but he is not too bright. He is merely regurgitating socialist/communist (you know Democrat) talking points. A man of his age should have learned by now how to think for himself.
Recommend if things get too bad for your uncle under a second "Shrub" term, your uncle can always take comfort in the fact that "The Shrub's" second term will the last.
Then tell him that life is too short for you to get all worked up over one relative's misguided opinions.
BINGO!
I was certain this type of reply would have appeared before post 41. Congrats!
BTW ... there was no "wondering" here. ;)
Repeat this to him from me, word for word: a historian with a Ph.D. thinks he's an idiot.
2. Tell him that he's why you're against partial brith abortion -- apparently doctors removed his brain when he was being born.
(Actually....)
3. Thank God you are intellectually blind and stupid like he is.
4. Thank God you are not his child.
5. Thank God you have a sense a humor.
6. Thank God that you can still love your demented uncle.
7. And thank God your uncle isn't running for President. (Your uncle doesn't look French and have a daisy hanging from his zipper, does he?)
I'd suggest one of these, "liberally applied" would do wonders.
Sorry. Too much editing!
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