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An Open letter to President Bush (End run vs. Outsourcing)
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Posted on 04/09/2004 12:22:04 PM PDT by Havoc

Dear Mr. President,

You don't know me, nor do I expect you to. But I'm one of those voices out here in the ether that actually did vote for you. I'm not one of those seminar caller types nor a Democrat pretending at being a republican to subvert the party faithful in dishonest fashion because their ideas aren't popular enough to win them anything. No, I'm a life-long republican who cherishes the memory of Ronald Reagan and who thought highly of you right up to the time you sunk a knife in my back economically.

Sir I understand it's a hard job being president. I also understand that in IT my job causes me to have to think on my feet and respond to an everchanging environment just to keep it. And while I was busting my behind for a company I happened to love doing a job I happened to love, you decided it's a good thing to do an endrun around equal protection and hand my job to a Mexican worker at 1/3 of the rate I'm being paid. Sir, Retail employees get paid more than that Full time and they're earning below the poverty level. The Job I hold for the moment requires a lot of hard work and problem solving skills, it requires good customer care skills, and it requires a long knowledge of Computers and software I didn't get from a degree but from practical experience.

I worked long and hard for years looking for the break that would get me in the door with my current employer. And I currently have a carreer with them. Or had, rather. I've worked for EDS for nearly 4 years. I will lose my job just short of that anniversary or just after it depending on how the breakdown happens.

I have a handicap that keeps me from driving a car. Not an official handicap, because it's so rare a problem that 1/2 of 1% of Americans have the condition so it doesn't rate being called what it is. I'm a blip on the screen. But, it means I have to live close to my employer and sometimes rely on others to help me get things done. I've lost everything and put my life back together 3 times in 15 years sir. And having just accomplished it again after 4 years with my employer, your policy has killed any protection I might have otherwise enjoyed from having my job destroyed by foriegn competition. And it puts me right back on the brink again. Sir, if I don't stand a chance of winning, it isn't competition - it's fish in a barrel. Where is my equal protection under the law?

The "competition" didn't get hired because of race or creed; but, because of national origin. They got hired because their cost of living is low enough that they can be paid sub-poverty wages to do my job. They are taking my job because they aren't constrained by the laws we have in this country to protect us and preserve our liberties. Lower cost of living, and no laws to constrain them. See, we used to have what was called ANTI-DUMPING laws on the books before Nafta to prevent the subversion of our economy by those who would attempt to compete on an unfair basis and put American firms out of business. We aren't a global economy, the globe is not the United States of America. They don't respect our rights, our Constitution, our laws or ourselves. The average citizen of the world might; but, we aren't dealing with them, we're dealing with the leaders who have their boots on the neck of the citizen of the world.

It seems today that I have to be a Mexican to get a fair shake in America. There are some 8 million of them here illegally as a tax on our system and working here taking jobs that Americans can do; but, which apparently, nobody wants to offer a fair wage for as long as they can get slave labor off the books. That isn't enough though. We need to employ More workers from Mexico, India, China.. As long as we're doing it, sire, why not be obvious and lets put Sally Struthers on the TV to advertise IT Jobs for the people under repressive regimes in africa who can live on 52 cents a day, "the price of a cup of coffee." I don't care what color their skin is, No citizen of the United states could live on that and shouldn't be asked to compete with it. It's too blatently obvious that it's unfair. And that seems to be why it's "good for us all".

Your policy sir. It's you on the tube telling me it's good for me to lose my job to a Mexican worker outside of our system and in a manner with which I cannot compete. There isn't a job comparable to it here that I can take to make up the difference cause those are being outsourced too. Outsourced. How about endran. Because sir, that is what is happening - it's an end run around our system - around our rights, our laws, our constitutional provisions and protections. Your policy has relieved me of my job without due process. It tied my hands before I had a chance to respond. And so many businesses are being forced to do the same thing, that I don't stand a chance any more than those earning 3 times what I do in the same field who have lost their jobs already and have had to take 11k a year Retail jobs just to eat while their houses go up for sale.

I don't have a degree. I don't get retraining. I just get to lose my job at the whim of your policies and will likely lose more than that in the end. You see, I bought a new home too - a year ago. This job made it possible for me to do that. And as with my Job, I had to get a huge break to be able to pull it off. I've been behind you and a cheerleader of yours since I first heard you speak. I understand that the tanking economy isn't your fault. I understand it isn't your fault we were attacked. I understand and agree with pretty much everything you've done to date, sir. This however is in my mind beyond sickening. It is a betrayal of myself, my coworkers and every other hard working IT worker, Auto worker, etc that has lost their job due to this. It is a betrayal by their government and their employer. And it's a distrust you've earned by subverting them and me. For me, it's not just my Government, it's my own party.

Now I've heard all the arguments for outsourcing and all the copout phrases about what we do about companies that have outsourced to the US. Tell me, sir, how many of them outsourced to do an endrun around their system of government, their constitution, their laws and their workers. How many of them outsourced to us to produce goods for their home market. That isn't an argument that flies with me in the face of doing an endrun around us. They've built plants in our land and are working within our market, within it's rules, within our laws, within the constraints of our constitution and are paying a competative wage. Our companies are doing the opposite. And any way you cut it, it is economic and constitutional tyranny. I'm not a single issue voter sir, until that single issue is my life and livelihood.. until members of my own party call me a robber and a thief for expecting to keep my job when I've worked my behind off to do so.

I did it right. I've busted my backside under an ever increasing workload, kept my promise to my employer and my client. Never missed a metric, never dropped the ball for either of them and have always exceeded expectation as a member of one of the best teams on this planet in my humble opinion. My job is gone not because we didn't produce and not because either couldn't afford it; but, because Mexicans work cheaper and don't have our protections, laws, rights or constitution. I have a strong work ethic and a loyalty to my company that even now makes me shudder to say a bad word about them. I have no illusions; but, I was raised that if you do your best it pays off. I know now that if you do your best, you get kicked in the teeth just as hard, and if you get ahead a little bit, the government will be there to kick you back down. I appreciate how hard your job is. Mine is pretty dang hard too. But how about you and everyone in government work for $600 a month from now on like the Mexican workers replacing us. How about you all work for the income you're forcing me into. If it's good for us, it should be good for you too. You, and all the ivory tower types in our party that hiss at me for being upset over losing my job and wanting to defend myself. How would that be, sir? I'd just as soon see little Tommy Daschle and Ted Kennedy go fly a kite as hear them spout one more offensive evil lie about you. But I'd just as soon, too, see you join them holding the string if you're gonna ruin me and tell me it's good for me. How about if we just outsource your jobs too - oh, wait, that would be unconstitutional too, wouldn't it.


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KEYWORDS: bush; endrun; immigration; newslavery; outsourcing
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To: Havoc
BTW ... Intel, Texas instruments and Qualcomm are truly hiring again.
41 posted on 04/09/2004 1:05:54 PM PDT by clamper1797 (Conservative by nature ... Republican in Spirit ... Patriot by Heart ... and Anti Liberal BY GOD)
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To: Asclepius; Havoc
So switch parties already. Go your way.

Bravo. It's that kind of uncompromising, uncaring spirit that could very well propell John Kerry to the White House. You free traitors don't see the big picture very well, do you?
42 posted on 04/09/2004 1:07:36 PM PDT by brownsfan (I didn't leave the democratic party, the democratic party left me.)
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To: ironpuppy
Free traitor platiude # 4 ....

4. If they can't adapt, screw 'em (i.e., let them eat cake)

And you say I'm unoriginal. No what I am is familiar with the free traitor handbook

44 posted on 04/09/2004 1:11:45 PM PDT by clamper1797 (Conservative by nature ... Republican in Spirit ... Patriot by Heart ... and Anti Liberal BY GOD)
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To: kevkrom
The government is responsible for you over-extending yourself to the point you can't keep afloat with unemployment compensation long enough to stop whining and start doing something?

Doing something? Like what?! By the way; how long can you stay afloat with unemployment compensation?
45 posted on 04/09/2004 1:12:04 PM PDT by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: clamper1797
they will eventually have their time too

Been there, done that. Lost my job two and a half years ago, but rather than complain and whine, I worked my butt off to find a new job.

46 posted on 04/09/2004 1:12:18 PM PDT by kevkrom (The John Kerry Songbook: www.imakrom.com/kerrysongs)
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To: Chi-townChief; Havoc
Good luck in the job hunt. But I doubt you'll get any help from Ketchup Boy or Nader.

Great, another free traitor who would rather run people off. Scare enough away and maybe you'll get to see one of those two yo-yos in office. I work in IT, I'll give you some facts: Fact: During the Clinton years jobs were plentiful in IT, salaries were high. Fact: Offshore outsorucing came into full swing during the Bush years. Fact: IT jobs are scarce now. There is very little movement because people are clinging to jobs.
I realize that some of those facts have underlying reasons. But, present that to the jobless, or, the more plentiful group of those fearing for their job, and you get a lot of people leaning left.
You free traitors sound like that's what you want?
47 posted on 04/09/2004 1:12:34 PM PDT by brownsfan (I didn't leave the democratic party, the democratic party left me.)
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To: clamper1797
"... they will eventually have their time too."

Ahem, let's be Americans about this and NOT wish ill-will towards folks even if we disagree with them. I lost my job at a museum due to reasons far outside my control (a city bureaucrat whose mismanagement lost the city $8 million), but I am not complaining about the loss of the job. I have skills and am preparing to start a business with miniscule capital. I am concerned about outsourcing of many jobs, but what do we do? Do we take actions that cause foreign investment in US labor to retract? Do we take measures that will induce inflation to unfortunate rates? It is a thorny problem that requires well-reasoned thought and not name calling and ill wishes.
48 posted on 04/09/2004 1:12:42 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (To increase the power of the State over the individual is a crime against Humanity.)
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To: kevkrom
Yeah you're right ... just bend over and take it. Don't complain or you're a whiner ...

Free traitor platitude #5. You people are so preDICKible

49 posted on 04/09/2004 1:14:57 PM PDT by clamper1797 (Conservative by nature ... Republican in Spirit ... Patriot by Heart ... and Anti Liberal BY GOD)
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To: ironpuppy; Havoc
Nice. Regurgitate what Mr. Williams says, as if his word is the ultimate authority. Think for yourself! Put it in your words. Say it, some of your free-traitor allies have already said it: "I have mine, that's all I care about. If you can't make it TOUGH."
50 posted on 04/09/2004 1:16:01 PM PDT by brownsfan (I didn't leave the democratic party, the democratic party left me.)
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To: Havoc
I feel for you, but my husband and I live in Texas, and my husband started his own business 6 years ago, with a total 3,000 dollar investment, he put on a credit card. We are not rich, but he has 2 part-time people working for him now..One of those VERY small businesses. but I say god Bless GWB for fighting for us 'little guys'. Keep your boots on, and you WILL make it, by the way, his job loss was under Billy Clinton. the economy was "booming", remember?
GOOD LUCK
51 posted on 04/09/2004 1:16:31 PM PDT by pc52 (pc52)
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To: ARCADIA
Doing something? Like what?!

Improving skills, starting a new business, anything other than sit you backside blaming someone else.

By the way; how long can you stay afloat with unemployment compensation?

With economizing, as long as it lasts. With savings, you would still be able to live a non-monastic life -- without savings, you were a fool to not have prepared for such a possibilty. If you are so over-extended that you will go bankrupt and lose your house (which the original poster claimed was happening) if you are forced onto unemployment insurance for a few months, than you are in desparate need of a financial advisor.

53 posted on 04/09/2004 1:17:29 PM PDT by kevkrom (The John Kerry Songbook: www.imakrom.com/kerrysongs)
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To: Army Air Corps
I agree with you BUT ...

I didn't start it ...

Read the posts ... who gave the first insult ...

I lived through it ... almost (within days) lost my home. I have VERY little patience with people who call victims of outsourcing "whiners".

54 posted on 04/09/2004 1:18:11 PM PDT by clamper1797 (Conservative by nature ... Republican in Spirit ... Patriot by Heart ... and Anti Liberal BY GOD)
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To: clamper1797; ironpuppy; Havoc
People who care more for money than their country or their fellow countrymen. People who would sell charter jets filled with dynamite to terrorists

Oh, but don't you see how GOOD that would be? Then there would be jobs to rebuild the buildings, and jobs to build more jets, and jobs to manufacture more explosives. Not to mention, it would decrease the surplus population. Yes, sir, it's a win/win as long as you make money! < / sarcasm >
55 posted on 04/09/2004 1:18:30 PM PDT by brownsfan (I didn't leave the democratic party, the democratic party left me.)
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To: ironpuppy
Seriously Dude ... If you don't know where this list is from or don't know what a "free traitor" is ... I suggest you do a Free Republic search on free trade and read the several hundred threads on this topic.
57 posted on 04/09/2004 1:21:12 PM PDT by clamper1797 (Conservative by nature ... Republican in Spirit ... Patriot by Heart ... and Anti Liberal BY GOD)
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To: Havoc
You know what is so great about this Country. If you lose your job and can start your own business!!!!! I drive a school van and I am have been selling vitamins and my sponser was an NFL Kicker and I an now buying and selling used water trap sweepers.....I could not do that in Iran,North Korea or China....God Bless America!!!!!!!!
58 posted on 04/09/2004 1:21:13 PM PDT by GregB (God Bless and protect my nephew Heath with the 1st Armoured in Baghdad.......)
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To: brownsfan
It's that kind of uncompromising, uncaring spirit that could very well propell John Kerry to the White House.
I'm not voting for John F. Kerry, dude. That would be you, as the limp junior senator reflects your horror at people buying and selling freely.

Free minds and free markets will always terrify those for whom security is an alibi for their wretched inadequacies.

Yes, dude, I truly do not care: life does not owe you a living, nor does the government, nor do I. Nor will I ever compromise on issues of virtue or freedom.

Peace/out.
59 posted on 04/09/2004 1:21:59 PM PDT by Asclepius (protectionists would outsource our dignity and prosperity in return for illusory job security)
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To: brbethke
Clinton signed Nafta, sure; but, it took Republicans to get it to his desk, didnt' it. And this president rather than pulling and scuttling it, has announced it is his policy to support it. What do you think I expect - to watch this policy scuttle our economy as momentum builds and jobs continue pouring out of this country. It's already screwed me. EDS isn't going to just wake up tomorrow and say, oops, we canned poor so and so over there because he's an American or not a mexican, maybe we should reconsider. I'm not a mexican and I can't work for the pittance they're paying Mexicans to take over my job servicing a business located in this country. And it wasn't merely the decision of EDS. Our client had a good deal to do with it from what they tell us - that's assuming they've been honest about it and I have no reason to believe they haven't.

I want President Bush to stop requiring Americans to be fish in a barrel over a non-existant competition that is forcing americans out of work in droves. I want the President to uphold our constitution like he took oath to do. I expect him to do his job - and that's serving and protecting the National interests of Americans - not those of the United Nations. This is about "globalism" and the urges of a handful of power mongers to make us a state in a global government. That ain't in my constitution. What is in my constitution is a phrase called "equal protection" which in my mind is being spat upon.

But there is definitely no ammendment to our constitution ANYWHERE which has been ratified by the houses of the required majority of states to give the congress or the president authority to subjugate this nation to any global government or economic system. And treaty authority doesn't give that power. It is a power not authorized to the government on behalf of the people no matter how you might handwring about it. And if you guys continue down that road, you may find yourselves with more trouble than you're bargaining for.

I expect the constitution to be upheld and I expect rights to be upheld. And I further expect this crap to end. I don't see it happening without a struggle but if that's what is pressed, I'll do my part.
60 posted on 04/09/2004 1:22:25 PM PDT by Havoc ("The line must be drawn here. This far and no further!")
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