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Terri Schiavo Hospitalized With Apparent Puncture Wounds In Arm! Apparent Foul Play!
WFTV-ABC in Orlando | UNK

Posted on 03/30/2004 4:38:13 AM PST by MindBender26

In 7:25 break, anchor reported "Terri Schiavo was rushed to a Pinellas County emergency room last night after nursing home staff noticed puncture wounds on her arm. The wounds appeared to be caused by a hypodermic needle! Toxicology tests were conducted but the results are not available yet!"

This could open a huge new round in this case. What did tests reveal? Who was last person in room? When was husband there? Was staffer trying the Angle of Death routine?

This will be developing hard all day!


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: cultofterri; deathculture; homicide; killermike; michaelschiavo; paranoia; recklessspeculation; schiavo; terri; terrischiavo; terrischindler; terrisfight; vegetable
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To: Deo volente; MindBender26; george wythe; Catspaw; RGSpincich
This is an "Action" thread by friends of Terri who support her right to life, and are trying to take some action to stop this relentless effort to kill her. It's not a discussion thread on the credentials of doctors or other such matters. Please go to those other threads and post your comments.

Amazing how EVERY thread on Terri turns into an "Action Thread" and any disagreement or other discussion is suddenly verboten.

Like I said, if you don't want those comments, "discuss amongst yourselves" via FReepmail.

221 posted on 03/30/2004 11:26:53 AM PST by Poohbah ("Would you mind not shooting at the thermonuclear weapons?" -- Maj. Vic Deakins, USAF)
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To: Jackie-O
I have not read ANY explanation for the missing teeth, or the vomiting episode, bedsore...

If the nursing home staff has any explanation for these facts that would eliminate the possibility of abuse or neglect, Terri's parents will never know. That's per Judge Greer's dismissal of the contempt charge yesterday.

222 posted on 03/30/2004 11:27:08 AM PST by lonevoice (Some things have to be believed to be seen)
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To: MindBender26
"Neither Michael or his lawyer are fanatics."

You don't think Felos saying that he has a special ability to communicate with coma patients is fanatical? Or the fact that he can "will" a plane to crash? These are just some of the crazy things he said in his book. There were lots of other crazy things he said. There were references and links given on his crazy thoughts. I think he is very fanatical.


223 posted on 03/30/2004 11:29:06 AM PST by FR_addict
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To: a5478
ping
224 posted on 03/30/2004 11:32:03 AM PST by lonevoice (Some things have to be believed to be seen)
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To: floriduh voter
They had a tv-vcr at this press conference wherein they showed that Terri was responsive and communicative.

Again, showing a few snippets of tape was a move that sounds great on the surface, but was idiotic in reality.

The local media then reviewed the ENTRE tape. It showed her NCM about 98% of tape!

This woman his been dis-served by many who would claim to help her! It is not enough to just want to help Terri or believe in her cause, but use the wrong tactics, (as has been done constantly) anymore than driving south from Miami will get you to Orlando, no matter how much you want to go to Disneyworld.

225 posted on 03/30/2004 11:33:55 AM PST by MindBender26 (For more news as it happens, news first, fast, 5 minutes sooner, stay tuned to FReeper Radio!)
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To: FR_addict
Felos is winning.

Which matters, his book or his briefs?
226 posted on 03/30/2004 11:35:33 AM PST by MindBender26 (For more news as it happens, news first, fast, 5 minutes sooner, stay tuned to FReeper Radio!)
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To: Pegita
Thank you for the ping! This is appalling! Fervent prayers for Terri and her family. Phone calls going out in a few minutes!
227 posted on 03/30/2004 11:36:41 AM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: MindBender26; russesjunjee; JulieRNR21; Republic; TaxRelief; Huber; pc93; NYer; nickcarraway; ...
MB, We did just fine while you were in Italy. Someone said the parents were the fanatics and I was responding to that comment. It is my opinion that Michael and Felos ARE FANATICS.

This is big business for Felos and Schiavo is obsessed with offing Terri. TERRI IS FELOS' LONG TERM CASH COW unless she lives, because that sets a precedent for future cases where there's no written directive. I think trying to murder someone when there's no written directive is fanatical.

"What people think" is your over-riding concern, not getting the outcome that Terri deserves.

If you want to pick up a sign and come to Park Place Assisted Living, you can call me foolish or weird or anything you'd like.

I can assure you that while you were in Italy, we moved mountains and did so diplomatically and with reverence under difficult circumstances.

Terri, "Where there's life there's hope."

228 posted on 03/30/2004 11:38:20 AM PST by floriduh voter (http://www.conservative-spirit.org/ Invite to my Site)
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To: codyjacksmom
Ping! Don't know if you've seen this latest news on Terri yet!
229 posted on 03/30/2004 11:39:05 AM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: All
Is it possible that someone is pulling her teeth hoping that she would develop an infection from the open wound in her mouth? Her teeth don't get brushed, would be a breeding ground for bacteria.
230 posted on 03/30/2004 11:39:52 AM PST by trussell (Member: Viking Kitty Society; Charter member: Troll Patrol...)
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To: Jackie-O
And BEDSORE, OILY HAIR. What are they doing to her besides TAKING HER MEDICAID PAYMENTS AT PARK PLACE ASSISTED LIVING? What Agency do we complain to about Medicaid Fraud or abuse? This is a case of Medicaid abuse since Michael somehow was able to get Terri on Medicaid.
231 posted on 03/30/2004 11:40:27 AM PST by floriduh voter (http://www.conservative-spirit.org/ Invite to my Site)
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To: lonevoice
You know, you would think that SOMEONE in the justice system would just find a legal way to get to the truth of the matter. Terri has been hanging in there while this all gets sorted out in the courts, but enough is enough.
Someone is abusing her, this is the time to finally give this woman the rights she deserves.
232 posted on 03/30/2004 11:42:35 AM PST by Jackie-O
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To: CindyDawg
Dunno.
But they are investigating just WHO called the police to the place.
Either the idiot weasel hubby with a new girlfriend tried something, or some idiot nurse/nurses aide is trying to be 'compassionate' in some weird sick twisted way.
Who's working there that is sympathetic to the abusive hubby or Doc Kevorkian?
Might be revealing to see who hubby has been talking to there and who is 'sympathetic' to 'right to die' causes there.
233 posted on 03/30/2004 11:43:26 AM PST by Darksheare (Fortune for the day: If all the world's a stage, where's the big hook to drag off Liberal performers)
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To: FR_addict
You don't think Felos saying that he has a special ability to communicate with coma patients is fanatical? Or the fact that he can "will" a plane to crash? These are just some of the crazy things he said in his book.

Felos' own words proclaim he is much more than fanatical...he's downright scary.

234 posted on 03/30/2004 11:43:59 AM PST by syriacus (2001: The Daschle-Schumer Gang obstructed Bush's attempts to organize his administration -->9/11)
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To: trussell
You know how painful dry sockets are when a tooth is pulled? Or, they could be going to a gum disease which could actually cause a heart infection. But two teeth? I bet the police aren't investigating that. That's got to fall under physical abuse and/or neglect.
235 posted on 03/30/2004 11:44:57 AM PST by floriduh voter (http://www.conservative-spirit.org/ Invite to my Site)
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To: MindBender26; Poohbah; floriduh voter
You know, it's funny. We never hear from you folks any negative opinion of the other side, only a constant and heavy-handed harping on her parents' motives and actions. NOTHING about George Felos' self-described telepathic powers, his fondness for chanting "I am that I am" over and over, his enthusiastic promotion of euthanasia, Michael's lying UNDER OATH during the malpractice trial that he would spend the rest of his life taking care of Terri, his shacking up with and twice impregnating girlfriend Jodi, Judge Greer's obvious incompetence which has been covered on these threads ad nauseam, the pro-death agenda of many of these Florida hospices, the numerous violations of state law and guardianship statutes that Greer has approved, the tremendous bias of the media in insisting that Terri is either "brain dead" or "comatose", the entire culture of death which is encroaching on ALL of us day by day, etc. etc. etc.

Just blast her poor parents, who have been put through hell.

That's the ticket.

236 posted on 03/30/2004 11:47:06 AM PST by Deo volente (God willing, Terri Schindler will live.)
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To: george wythe
How you feel about today's latest developments regarding the puncture wounds and missing teeth?
237 posted on 03/30/2004 11:48:09 AM PST by Velveeta
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To: trussell
Yes and I do remember reading that MS has not seen to Terri getting regular dental care like he is supposed to.
238 posted on 03/30/2004 11:48:32 AM PST by Jackie-O
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To: Poohbah; Catspaw; george wythe
Some Terri zealots would like you to believe that all conservatives support them. Nothing could be further from the truth. Polls aren't everything, but most polls taken show that conservatives want to let Terri go to a better place. That voice needs to be heard on FreeRepublic.

hhttp://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/state/7433131.htm

FLORIDA VOTERS


Public backs right to die, poll says

The intervention by Gov. Jeb Bush and the Legislature into the Terri Schiavo case is met with overwhelming voter disapproval.

BY LESLEY CLARK AND PETER WALLSTEN

lclark@herald.com


Gov. Jeb Bush and Florida Republicans reignited a national debate on the right to die when they ordered a feeding tube reinserted into a brain-damaged woman, but the majority of the state's voters believe the politicians got it wrong, according to a new poll.

By nearly three to one, registered voters across religious, party and gender lines told pollsters they disagree with the intervention. While Bush and GOP legislators acted at the request of Terri Schiavo's parents to keep their daughter alive by overruling the wishes of her husband and a court, an overwhelming number of the poll's respondents believe that a spouse should determine whether an incapacitated person without a living will should be taken off life support.

''The governor is clearly in the wrong in terms of public opinion,'' said Democratic pollster Rob Schroth, who conducted the poll for The Herald and the St. Petersburg Times with a Republican pollster, Kellyanne Conway.

The responses were strong.

`THIS WAS A SHAME'

''Why would they go against what the courts and the judges have already decided?'' asked respondent Rosalind Jackson, a Winter Haven Republican. ``That poor girl has just been lingering for so long, and I felt finally she could get some peace. This was a shame.''

''How can I say this politely? It was a travesty, a farce,'' said respondent George Butzin, 46, of Clermont. ``I can't believe someone who espouses getting government out of our lives wants to put government in where it doesn't belong.''

The telephone survey of 800 registered voters, conducted Dec. 1-3, gauged public opinion on a variety of hot-button issues that could drive voter behavior next year in the nation's most populous swing state.

The poll also found that voters strongly favor lifting travel restrictions to Cuba and just as strongly oppose allowing gay and lesbian couples to marry legally.

While President Bush's approval ratings have slipped in recent months, due in part to troop casualties in Iraq, the survey found the war and the Schiavo case have not dramatically affected public opinion of his brother, Gov. Jeb Bush.

The governor, who overwhelmingly won reelection last year and is mentioned as a potential presidential contender in 2008, won favorable approval from 52 percent of respondents, a slight decline from the 56 percent that he posted in May. But he remains a polarizing figure, with 41 percent disapproving of his job performance. Blacks and working women accounted for his highest negatives.

While it appears the governor continues to get credit from voters for sticking with his principles, even if they disagree, his decline could reveal that his image is now tied to that of his brother, a wartime president.

''Jeb has always run 10 points ahead of his brother, now they're dead equal,'' Schroth said.

Gov. Bush's high-profile push to spend $350 million in taxpayer dollars to lure the Scripps Research Institute to Florida met with narrow approval, although voters overwhelmingly rejected spending public money on a new stadium for the Florida Marlins.

But it's the Schiavo case that has most gripped the nation, sparking an emotional debate over life and death.

Gov. Bush acted to keep Schiavo alive after thousands of e-mails and phone calls engineered by antiabortion activists, who view the case as a legal foothold in their quest to undo the landmark Roe v. Wade ruling.

Florida Democrats have accused Bush and the Republican-led Legislature of using Schiavo to energize religious conservatives heading into the 2004 election. The Democratic front-runner to challenge President Bush next year, former Vermont Gov. Howard Dean, assailed their move as ''BS,'' while one of his rivals, U.S. Rep. Richard Gephardt of Missouri, told reporters in Florida on Saturday that the decision should have been left up to the courts. The poll shows Democrats could have an audience for their attacks.

Even registered Republicans opposed their governor by 54-34 percent. Democrats rejected the move by 73-16 percent. Even more than 7 in 10 white men, the strongest supporters of the governor and the president, said they disagreed.

Among ethnic groups, only Hispanics backed the move, by 47-38 percent, perhaps because of strong religious faith, pollster Conway said. But across religious lines, Protestants, Catholics and Jews rejected the decision by at least 2-1.

GAY MARRIAGE

As strongly as they feel about Schiavo, registered voters vehemently oppose allowing gays and lesbians to marry.

The issue has exploded in recent weeks along the presidential campaign trail, since a court ruling in Massachusetts that gays should have the right to marry. Some leading Republicans are pushing for a federal constitutional amendment to outlaw same-sex nuptials, hoping to force Democrats to confront an issue dear to the liberal wing of the party but unpopular among many voters.

The major Democratic presidential candidates have tiptoed around the issue, saying they back civil unions -- the kind approved in Vermont by Dean -- but not officially sanctioned marriage.

The poll found near-uniform opposition to gay marriages in Florida, with only independent and Jewish voters backing the idea.
239 posted on 03/30/2004 11:50:24 AM PST by Wheee The People (Oo ee oo ah ah, ting tang, walla-walla bing bang. Oo ee oo ah ah, ting tang, walla-walla bing bang!)
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To: Jackie-O
Whole lotta questions here.
240 posted on 03/30/2004 11:50:37 AM PST by Velveeta
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