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Senate Passes Unborn Victims Bill, heads to President Bush
03.25.03

Posted on 03/25/2004 3:57:58 PM PST by Coleus

Senate Passes Unborn Victims Bill

WASHINGTON, March 25, 2004



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"This bill recognizes that there are two victims. It's as simple as that."
Sen. Mike DeWine, R-Ohio



(AP) The Senate voted Thursday to make it a separate crime to harm a fetus during commission of a violent federal crime, a victory for those seeking to expand the legal rights of the unborn.

The 61-38 vote on the Unborn Victims of Violence Act sends the legislation, after a five-year battle in Congress, to President Bush for his signature. The White House said in a statement that it "strongly supports protection for unborn children." The House passed the bill last month.

Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tenn., said the bill was "powerful because this act is about simple humanity, about simple reality."

But abortion rights lawmakers contended that giving a fetus, from the point of conception, the same legal rights as its mother sets a precedent that could be used in future legal challenges to abortion rights.

It was the second big win for social conservatives pushing protections for the unborn following enactment of the so-called partial birth abortion ban last year. That ban is now tied up in the courts.

The Senate cleared the way for passage with a 50-49 vote to defeat an amendment, backed by opponents of the bill, that would have increased penalties but maintained that an attack on a pregnant woman was a single-victim crime.

Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., President Bush's opponent this fall, interrupted his campaign schedule to vote yes on the one-victim amendment. He voted no on final passage.

The bill states that an assailant who attacks a pregnant woman while committing a violent federal crime can be prosecuted for separate offenses against both the woman and her unborn child. The legislation defines an "unborn child" as a child in utero, which it says "means a member of the species homo sapiens, at any stage of development, who is carried in the womb."

"This bill recognizes that there are two victims," said Sen. Mike DeWine, R-Ohio, a chief sponsor. Americans, he said, "intuitively know that there is a victim besides the mother."

The key obstacle was an amendment by Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., that would have imposed the same tougher penalties outlined in the DeWine bill but classified any attack on a pregnant woman as a single-victim crime, avoiding the issue of fetal rights and the question of when a person attains personhood.

Feinstein said that by defining when life begins, the bill was "the first step in removing a woman's right to choice, particularly in the early months of a pregnancy before viability." She said it could also chill embryonic stem cell research.

The Senate also defeated an amendment by Sen. Patty Murray, D-Wash., that would require employers to give unpaid leave, and states to pay unemployment benefits, to women when they or family members are victims of domestic or sexual violence.

Supporters of the bill have named it after Laci Peterson and her unborn child, Conner, victims in the highly publicized murder case in California. California, one of 29 states with an unborn victims law, is trying Peterson's husband, Scott, on double murder charges.

Laci Peterson's stepfather, Ron Grantski, said at a Capitol Hill news conference that he and Laci's mother had received several hundred thousand sympathy cards and "they all mourned our loss of Laci and Conner — not Laci and the fetus."

The Senate bill covers 68 federal crimes of violence, such as drug-related shootings, violence at an international airport, terrorist attacks, crimes on a military base or threats against a witness in a federal proceeding.

It would specifically exclude prosecution of legally performed abortions — a fact supporters cite in arguing that the bill would not undermine the 1973 Roe v. Wade decision affirming a woman's right to end a pregnancy.

"The criminals who commit these crimes are not committing abortions," said Douglas Johnson, legislative director of the National Right to Life Committee. "They are depriving these unborn children of the right to life. It's a separate issue related to the right to life."

Groups on both sides of the abortion issue lobbied hard on the legislation. Johnson's group noted that family members — including Laci Peterson's mother — who had lost loved ones in attacks on pregnant women were in Washington to urge senators to pass the bill.

The Christian Coalition of America said votes for either the Murray or Feinstein amendments would be regarded as negative votes on its annual congressional scorecard of lawmakers.

On the other side, NARAL Pro-Choice America delivered more than 130,000 petitions to senators urging defeat of the bill because the group said it would allow judges to rule that humans at any stage of development deserve protection, even when that protection trumps a woman's interest in ending a pregnancy.

"This would be the first time in federal law that an embryo or fetus is recognized as a separate and distinct person under the law, separate from the woman," said NARAL president Kate Michelman. "Much of this is preparing for the day the Supreme Court has a majority that will overrule Roe v. Wade."


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1 posted on 03/25/2004 3:57:59 PM PST by Coleus
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To: 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; american colleen; annalex; ...
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2 posted on 03/25/2004 4:01:11 PM PST by Coleus (Abortion and Euthanasia, Don't Democrats just kill ya!)
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To: Coleus
Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., President Bush's opponent this fall, interrupted his campaign schedule to vote yes on the one-victim amendment. He voted no on final passage.

Kerry will be on TV soon saying I actually voted for it before I voted against it.
3 posted on 03/25/2004 4:01:20 PM PST by boxerblues (4 months and a couple of bandaid wounds do not make a hero)
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To: boxerblues
Boxer is deeply saddened.
4 posted on 03/25/2004 4:07:43 PM PST by Jim Robinson (warning: some parts of this post may be plagiarized - some parts may be sarcasm - no parts edible)
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To: boxerblues
Senator Boxer that is.
5 posted on 03/25/2004 4:08:29 PM PST by Jim Robinson (warning: some parts of this post may be plagiarized - some parts may be sarcasm - no parts edible)
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To: Jim Robinson
Not this boxer! Its good to see my guy Sen. Mike DeWine is getting off his duff.
6 posted on 03/25/2004 4:09:12 PM PST by boxerblues (4 months and a couple of bandaid wounds do not make a hero)
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US Senate Takes Up 'Unborn Victims' Bill 
FRC Applauds Senate Passage of Unborn Victims of Violence Act 


7 posted on 03/25/2004 4:11:40 PM PST by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: boxerblues
"Sen. Mike DeWine"

He probably knew it was going to pass, so he thought it was safe to actually look like a Republican, for once.
8 posted on 03/25/2004 4:19:22 PM PST by Socratic (Yes, there is method in the madness.)
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To: Coleus
The vote.......

Vote Summary

Question: On Passage of the Bill (H. R. 1997 )
Vote Number: 63 Vote Date: March 25, 2004, 05:39 PM
Required For Majority: 1/2 Vote Result: Bill Passed
Measure Number: H.R. 1997 (Laci and Conner's Law )
Measure Title: A bill to amend title 18, United States Code, and the Uniform Code of Military Justice to protect unborn children from assault and murder, and for other purposes.
Vote Counts: YEAs 61
NAYs 38
Not Voting 1

Grouped By Vote Position

YEAs ---61
Alexander (R-TN)
Allard (R-CO)
Allen (R-VA)
Bennett (R-UT)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Bond (R-MO)
Breaux (D-LA)
Brownback (R-KS)
Bunning (R-KY)
Burns (R-MT)
Campbell (R-CO)
Carper (D-DE)
Chambliss (R-GA)
Cochran (R-MS)
Coleman (R-MN)
Collins (R-ME)
Conrad (D-ND)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Craig (R-ID)
Crapo (R-ID)
Daschle (D-SD)
Dayton (D-MN)
DeWine (R-OH)
Dole (R-NC)
Domenici (R-NM)
Dorgan (D-ND)
Ensign (R-NV)
Enzi (R-WY)
Fitzgerald (R-IL)
Frist (R-TN)
Graham (R-SC)
Grassley (R-IA)
Hagel (R-NE)
Hatch (R-UT)
Hutchison (R-TX)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Kyl (R-AZ)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Lott (R-MS)
Lugar (R-IN)
McCain (R-AZ)
McConnell (R-KY)
Miller (D-GA)
Murkowski (R-AK)
Nelson (D-NE)
Nickles (R-OK)
Pryor (D-AR)
Reid (D-NV)
Roberts (R-KS)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Santorum (R-PA)
Sessions (R-AL)
Shelby (R-AL)
Smith (R-OR)
Specter (R-PA)
Stevens (R-AK)
Sununu (R-NH)
Talent (R-MO)
Thomas (R-WY)
Voinovich (R-OH)
Warner (R-VA)
NAYs ---38
Akaka (D-HI)
Baucus (D-MT)
Bayh (D-IN)
Biden (D-DE)
Boxer (D-CA)
Byrd (D-WV)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Chafee (R-RI)
Clinton (D-NY)
Corzine (D-NJ)
Dodd (D-CT)
Durbin (D-IL)
Edwards (D-NC)
Feingold (D-WI)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Graham (D-FL)
Harkin (D-IA)
Hollings (D-SC)
Inouye (D-HI)
Jeffords (I-VT)
Johnson (D-SD)
Kennedy (D-MA)
Kerry (D-MA)
Kohl (D-WI)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Leahy (D-VT)
Levin (D-MI)
Lieberman (D-CT)
Lincoln (D-AR)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Murray (D-WA)
Nelson (D-FL)
Reed (D-RI)
Sarbanes (D-MD)
Schumer (D-NY)
Snowe (R-ME)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Wyden (D-OR)
Not Voting - 1
Gregg (R-NH)

9 posted on 03/25/2004 4:21:46 PM PST by deport (("These guys are the most crooked, you know, lying group I have ever seen. It's scary," Kerry said.)
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To: Coleus
It sickens me to see all the the pro-abortion fanatics who are only concerned that this might lead to fewer dead babies, and therefore fewer dollars. Pure evil.
10 posted on 03/25/2004 4:22:09 PM PST by watchin
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To: deport
WA needs new senators. Even no senators would be an improvement.
11 posted on 03/25/2004 4:24:43 PM PST by watchin
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To: Socratic
Voinovich voted yes as well! Any bill thats pisses off a liberal and saves a child is a good law.
12 posted on 03/25/2004 4:25:01 PM PST by boxerblues (4 months and a couple of bandaid wounds do not make a hero)
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To: Coleus
Shouldn't the bill be restricted to those fetuses "which had travelled in or substantially affect interstate commerce?"

Murder, as such, is a state crime, so they should need some hook to pull it into federal jurisdiction, and the interstate commerce clause seems to do the trick for just about everything else under the sun.
13 posted on 03/25/2004 4:26:52 PM PST by coloradan (Hence, etc.)
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To: boxerblues
"Voinovich voted yes as well!"

I see that. I guess he thinks it's OK to actually look Republican too (when it's safe.) I also see that D'asshole voted yes. SD politics must be making him pretty scared nowadays.
14 posted on 03/25/2004 4:31:11 PM PST by Socratic (Yes, there is method in the madness.)
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To: Coleus
thanks Coleus for the heads up I had trouble all day logging in, found the URL at Yahoo. This is great news.. hope it's the first step to challenge of Roe v. Wade Keep the prayers up
15 posted on 03/25/2004 4:33:24 PM PST by fedupjohn
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To: Socratic
Not many surprises in the Nea column...
16 posted on 03/25/2004 4:34:59 PM PST by boxerblues (4 months and a couple of bandaid wounds do not make a hero)
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To: fedupjohn
Dont get your hope up to high, some still have a hard time even calling it a baby.

"Feinstein said that by defining when life begins, the bill was "the first step in removing a woman's right to choice, particularly in the early months of a pregnancy before viability." She said it could also chill embryonic stem cell research. "
17 posted on 03/25/2004 4:37:22 PM PST by boxerblues (4 months and a couple of bandaid wounds do not make a hero)
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To: Coleus
The key obstacle was an amendment by Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., that would have imposed the same tougher penalties outlined in the DeWine bill but classified any attack on a pregnant woman as a single-victim crime, avoiding the issue of fetal rights and the question of when a person attains personhood.

Sounds to me like that would run up against the Equal Protection Clause. Then again, I'm not a lawyer, so I just think about these things in a normal, non-contorted fashion.

18 posted on 03/25/2004 4:39:49 PM PST by savedbygrace
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To: boxerblues
No big surprise for me...looks like I'll be calling Sens. Stabenow and Levin in the morning.
19 posted on 03/25/2004 4:42:49 PM PST by grellis (Che cosa ha mangiato?)
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To: boxerblues
"before viability"

Remember the early days of the abortion debate when viability was the key term? After all, who would EVER be so heartless as to abort a child if it ever had the LEAST chance of surviving on its own! It sure didn't take long to sidestep that little moral qualm, did it?
20 posted on 03/25/2004 4:45:40 PM PST by Socratic (Yes, there is method in the madness.)
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