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Has A Time Vortex Been Found?
Pravda (with Editorial from Farshores - the James Donahue Collumn) ^ | March 24, 2004 | Pravada / James Donahue

Posted on 03/24/2004 5:20:35 PM PST by vannrox

A disturbing story in the March 1 issue of Pravda suggests that the U. S. Government is working on the discovery of a mysterious point over the South Pole that may be a passageway backward in time.

According to the article, some American and British scientists working in Antarctica on January 27, 1995, noticed a spinning gray fog in the sky over the pole. U. S. physicist Mariann McLein said at first they believed it to be some kind of sandstorm. But after a while they noticed that the fog did not change its form and did not move so they decided to investigate.

They sent up a weather balloon, at the end of a rope, with some equipment attached. To their surprise the balloon immediately disappeared after entering the fog, although the rope hung there, as if still attached. After a few minutes the team pulled on the rope and the balloon reappeared. When they brought it back to the ground they were surprised to find that a chronometer on the balloon displayed the date as January 27, 1965, exactly 30 years earlier.

The team repeated the experiment several times, and each time the chronometer's date changed to the earlier time. The phenomenon was reported to the White House under the name "Time Gate."

According to the story the CIA and FBI are fighting to gain control over this project, which seems to be a link to a tunnel that permits penetration into the past. Experiments have advanced to the point of actually sending people through the rift. Their safe return is an unknown.

Of course the Russians are watching all of this with great interest. The story talked about various Russian experiments with time machines and theories about the possibility of slowing or speeding up time.

Russian author Gennady Belimov published an article in which he described experiments led by Vadim Chernobrov, the inventor of a time machine in 1987. Chernobrov claims his machine can slow or speed up the course of time by tinkering with the Earth's magnetic field. His biggest success was the slowing of time for 1.5 seconds.

While all of this sounds a bit like one of Grimm's Fairy Tales, I have to give the report some level of credibility. I know that time does not seem to exist in the spiritual or astral realm outside of our three-dimensional existence on this planet. Time appears to be an invention of third dimensional reality to allow humans to keep their bearings as we proceed through the brief life spans allowed in these bodies.

One of the problems remote viewers have is acquiring time lines for future or past events that they examine. For example, a viewer might foresee a major catastrophe like a volcanic eruption, airplane crash or hurricane, but pinning down an exact moment when it will occur is extremely difficult. To deal with this problem, Aaron C. Donahue spent years developing an advanced form of viewing, which he calls the acquisition and practical application of non-historical data.

Even with his new technique, Donahue has trouble pinning down exact dates of future events. For example, he said he foresees some kind of explosive thermal event occurring at Yellowstone National Park sometime this year and thinks it might happen this spring. But he can't give us an exact date.

As an old science fiction buff, I have had years to think and read about the consequences of human travel through time. Traveling forward in time would be strange enough. And we might be able to do something like that without upsetting the balance of things.

But if we could go backwards, even under the strictest of conditions, it is possible that by a single act, we could alter the entire course of history. Simply carrying an evolved bacteria or a genetically modified virus on our shirt sleeve into the distant past might launch a world-wide epidemic that would kill millions of people, some of whom would be the thinkers, inventers and composers of some of the great human offerings of that period.

That the CIA and/or FBI are tinkering with time travel is most distressing. The covert operations they perform could take on a whole new meaning if they are ever given the opportunity to travel into the past and make a few adjustments in world events.

What is troubling is that we have no way of knowing that they aren't already doing it. For those of us in the daily stream of world events, a shift in history might wipe out thousands of people and change entire governments. But for us, the change would go into our memory of events as they happened during our lives. That good friend we went bowling with last night might disappear before the next morning and we would not notice his loss. By the time we awake, the person never existed.

In the past I have thought how time travel, if available to a few of us, would be a most useful tool for saving the looming fate of our dying world. But then what would any of us do, short of going to war with the angelic realm, to make a significant difference?

Putting this tool in the hands of an angelic-Christian driven team of government agents can only mean worse trouble than we have already have. Come to think of it, that kind of time tinkering might explain how things have become as quickly out-of-whack as they currently are.


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To: vannrox
January 27, 1965

OK.. what happened on that date??

Anyway, these people are nuts.

If we went back to that date and showed a copy of PRAVDA to the Soviets, I think they would have shut the whole thing down and eliminated all its staff.

101 posted on 03/24/2004 7:44:25 PM PST by GeronL (http://www.ArmorforCongress.com......................Send a Freeper to Congress!)
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To: stevem
BUY STOCK!!!
102 posted on 03/24/2004 7:47:33 PM PST by GeronL (http://www.ArmorforCongress.com......................Send a Freeper to Congress!)
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To: Kirkwood
What's the name of that movie with Kirk Douglas where a US carrier (Enterprise?) goes into a vortex and appears in WWII with the chance to beat the holy hell out of the Japanese Navy?

I liked that movie.

103 posted on 03/24/2004 7:48:29 PM PST by GeronL (http://www.ArmorforCongress.com......................Send a Freeper to Congress!)
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To: al baby
Can someone ping Art Bell

Actually, I read this article a few days ago from a link on Coast to Coast AM.

104 posted on 03/24/2004 7:54:45 PM PST by buccaneer81 (Rick Nash will score 40 goals this season...)
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To: Junior
It automatically updates itself from the US Atomic Clock, duh! /sarcasm
105 posted on 03/24/2004 7:56:09 PM PST by GeronL (http://www.ArmorforCongress.com......................Send a Freeper to Congress!)
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To: vannrox
"Has A Time Vortex Been Found?

Yes it has, but not until tomorrow.

106 posted on 03/24/2004 7:59:21 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Unless the world is made safe for Democracy, Democracy won't be safe in the world.)
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To: Williams
I think a far simpler explanation is the aliens inside the vortex manually turned back the chronometer.

< best alien beavus and butthead imitation: >

heh heh , watch this. I will grab the earthling's clock and set it back, say...thirty earth rotations, that should screw with their heads...Heh heh </ alien B & B imitation>

107 posted on 03/24/2004 8:07:41 PM PST by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: js1138
You will know this is tru when all traces of this thread vanish and you have no memory of it.

Memory of what???

CA....

108 posted on 03/24/2004 8:14:23 PM PST by Chances Are (Whew! It seems I've once again found that silly grin!)
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To: Rebelbase
Indeed.
109 posted on 03/24/2004 8:15:57 PM PST by Redcloak ("Aye...And if my grandmother had wheels, she'd be a wagon." -Capt. Montgomery Scott, Starfleet, ret.)
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To: Robert_Paulson2
BUMP
110 posted on 03/24/2004 8:22:28 PM PST by Centurion2000 (Resolve to perform what you must; perform without fail that what you resolve.)
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To: Robert_Paulson2
BUMP
111 posted on 03/24/2004 8:22:28 PM PST by Centurion2000 (Resolve to perform what you must; perform without fail that what you resolve.)
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To: GeronL; Kirkwood
The movie is "The Philadelphia Experiment/ Pretty good movie that came out in 1983. Supposedly based on real events.

http://www.fiu.edu/~mizrachs/montauk-project.html

112 posted on 03/24/2004 8:37:28 PM PST by ShakeNJake
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To: ShakeNJake
Thats a good movie. But I think he was referring to 'Final Countdown'
113 posted on 03/24/2004 8:42:03 PM PST by GeronL (http://www.ArmorforCongress.com......................Send a Freeper to Congress!)
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To: vannrox
When they brought it back to the ground they were surprised to find that a chronometer on the balloon displayed the date as January 27, 1965, exactly 30 years earlier.

A chronometer is a clock. A clock is a device with a big hand and a little hand. The big hand represents minutes, the little hand hours. Sometimes, there's a sweep-second hand as well, to measure seconds.

Now, bearing in mind the above description, how in the world can a clock tell you that it was back in time on January 27, 1965?

114 posted on 03/24/2004 8:44:10 PM PST by JoeSchem
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To: proud American in Canada
there were some giant scorpions--the size of camels--

Though it would be fun... I don't think it's true.

Giant scorpions! The size of camels! FUN!!!!! You've got a wierd sense of, um, fun. ;^>

115 posted on 03/24/2004 8:50:32 PM PST by Phsstpok (often wrong, but never in doubt)
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To: Koblenz
the real question- if you could go back to 1965- would you?
116 posted on 03/24/2004 8:51:07 PM PST by beebuster2000
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To: JoeSchem
"Now, bearing in mind the above description, how in the world can a clock tell you that it was back in time on January 27, 1965?"

Several Questions come to mind...

First: How is the clock powered? If it is by batteries would not the batteries run down when they went through time 30 years into the past?

Second: IF the clock/chronometer actually did record the passage of time, backwards would it not also record the passage of time forwards when it re-entered our time-stream and thus return to us showing the correct time in the present?

Third were there any Moose spotted in the area of the time displacement? How about cheese?

117 posted on 03/24/2004 8:51:38 PM PST by Mad Dawgg (French: old Europe word meaning surrender)
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To: ShakeNJake
No, that's not the name of it. You're thinking of a different movie. This was a movie about a natural phenomenon - a storm - and toward the end of the film the storm came back and engulfed the ship and brought them back into the future just as the Tomcats were about to strike the Japanese carriers.
120 posted on 03/24/2004 9:22:02 PM PST by Kirkwood (Its always a good time to donate to the DAV and USO.)
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