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Goodbye you cheerleading losers
Self ^ | 03.21.04 | Self

Posted on 03/21/2004 11:52:41 AM PST by Beck_isright

A few days ago, the esteeemed host and founder of this foremerly great website invited me to do the following:

"654. To: JohnGaltfla (#367)

Oh, it's much better to go out in a blaze of glory. Martyrdom, 72 virgins, plaque on the "Great Ones" wall of fame and all that rot.

jimrobfr posted on 2004-03-19 03:29:45 ET"


Obviously, he was concerned that some of his better non-bot posters had abandoned FR for greener fields where our financial and intellectual contributions would be appreciated. It was amusing to watch former FReepers belittle, banter and blast JimRob in various forms.

I was wrong.

FR has changed.
Deal with that fact boys and girls.
Many of us grew up in a more conservative era, where our nation and our freedoms were first and foremost. Now we learn that it that is not the case. Principles are for losers according to the Bots and most of the ignorant posters here on FR. To create noise and call those of us who have been loyal to the conservative cause such creative and wonderful names as "Soros lovers", "Mobyites", "communists"(now that's a good one for those of us who have been overseas staring at AK-47's), "DUers" and names which are forbidden for me to mention but ok for the Bushbots.

The noise has driven off many of the best posters from this site. Now FR has become the Fluff of the RNC, posting such creative threads as "Pray for President Bush - Day 1276", "The Economy (Freep this poll)", " FReeper After Actions", "After Action Freep A.N.S.W.E.R. AUSTIN TX 3/20/04", etc...

It sounds more to me like everyone is proud of responding but no one has the convictions excpet for what the RNC faxes them. This election should not be about "Republican" v. "Democrat" principles. Neither party has any principles. If you morons believe that, then you are bigger fools than I thought. This is about the future of America an the viability of capitalism in this nation.

Why "FReepers" can not see this and hold "their man" to the Hamiltonian principles of limited Federal government and enhancing our freedoms by reducing dependency on any government. By controlling immigration, restructuring the tax system to pre-1916 form, and by enhancing the defense of this nation by using actions instead of words when dealing with foreign powers (little things, like enforcing the acts against nations which do business with Cuba, as Bush promised in 2000). Unfortunately you mind numbed morons don't care. If you're 401K shows a fiat currency positive figure, you're all happy as a fly in a cow pasture.



Go for it.

As Senor Cartman would say:

"Screw you guys, I'm going home"


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To: onyx
(Kerry' s a Veteran, but so were Lee Harvey Oswald, Timothy McVeigh and Benedict Arnold.)


That's gotta be one of the VERY BEST taglines of all time!
381 posted on 03/21/2004 6:31:43 PM PST by Just Lori (I used to be a Democrat. Now I'm an American!)
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To: Beck_isright
Screw the RNC. I don't get my marching orders from them. It just so happens that GW is a fine president who is orders of magnitude better than anything the opposition offers. Good god! Would you be happier with a Kerry, just to feel "pure"? Has W made some mistakes? Sure, lots of them. But get some perspective here. It's the survival of what's left of the Republic we're talking about now. Better to get behind Bush and point his a$$ in the right direction.
382 posted on 03/21/2004 6:31:46 PM PST by foghornleghorn
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To: Beck_isright
"Screw you guys, I'm going home"

What Beck meant to say was "Screw you guys. I'm taking MY football, and going home!"

383 posted on 03/21/2004 6:31:57 PM PST by Destructor
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To: Beck_isright
Spoiled brat doesn't get everything he wants in one election- expects entire nation at war to do 108 degree turn in just 3 years!

Please notify the New York Times!

384 posted on 03/21/2004 6:32:41 PM PST by Dec31,1999 (Capital punishment saves lives.)
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To: foghornleghorn
It's the survival of what's left of the Republic we're talking about now.

Bingo.

385 posted on 03/21/2004 6:32:52 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Beck_isright
You need to rethink about what yer doin, dude. I mean, it's not all about yourself here...(take another toke) Think man for once in your life that theirs something else out there, somewhere that is different than you.

Stay off the Columbian!

386 posted on 03/21/2004 6:35:15 PM PST by hope (jeez, I cannot take anymore liberal's who think their the only ones who are...God help America!)
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
He's on LP, saying that "it didn't take them long to name call".

And calling us ignorant and the infamous "bots" which is equal to "neener-neener-neener" in mentality isn't name calling in his world, right?

387 posted on 03/21/2004 6:36:55 PM PST by ladyinred (democrats have blood on their hands!)
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To: foghornleghorn
I agree. Kerry would damage this country and the right. You want to your taxes to go up to pay for government services of illegals and loafers? You want another 9/11? Vote for Kerry. Go to Kerry's website, or visit DU; and then come back here and I'll accept all your apologies.
388 posted on 03/21/2004 6:37:59 PM PST by French-American Republican
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To: Beck_isright
So,just because our Republican baby isn't as perfect as we had hoped, we should discard him into the dumpster and adopt that coyote ugly Democrat creature whelp just for spite?

Sounds like if Beck_really is right, he isn't very bright.
389 posted on 03/21/2004 6:39:01 PM PST by F.J. Mitchell (Is a pompuus,priviliged, jetset punk ,really a proper Presidential prospect?)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
Lived under

I've lived under rain, wind, snow, flood, fire, etc. etc. And blue skys, warm balmy weather. None of that was sucky. It was what it was.

You have lived in three places for what -- each not many years -- but you know all the tides and times of what is good and bad in politic, eh?

I think the US founding documents and theories are grand -- among the best things fashioned by the efforts of men. Yet in them -- no two party system. Washington was sickened by the party politics. He held a hope that the general public could rise above such insider-versus-outsider, blue team versus green team inanity as a subsitute for character, for integrity, for faithful, diligent, honest stewardship of our nation ruled according to our charter of it.

Washington seemed to favor a no-party system. I'm favoring a multi-party system -- for in such systems the political ideals are better carried -- a vote is for an idea, and not the current vote for for a person or a "party".

390 posted on 03/21/2004 6:40:13 PM PST by bvw
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To: ShadowDancer
"If I could have come back as riley1992"

The riley1922 home page is still there- apparently the account is still good. Have you tried just logging in with your old password?

"Later"

391 posted on 03/21/2004 6:40:17 PM PST by mrsmith ("Oyez, oyez! All rise for the Honorable Chief Justice... Hillary Rodham Clinton ")
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To: Beck_isright
CRY BABY ALERT !!!!! CRY BABY ALERT!!!!

Start your own web site for all the "we can do it better" folks....
392 posted on 03/21/2004 6:42:07 PM PST by Moby Grape
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To: Bob J
You drag in crap and want praise for the stink? You hunt down the crap, and it is prize booty to you?

You have problems, and G-d help those around you!

393 posted on 03/21/2004 6:44:16 PM PST by bvw
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To: foghornleghorn
Good god! Would you be happier with a Kerry, just to feel "pure"? Has W made some mistakes?

Outstanding point.

394 posted on 03/21/2004 6:51:29 PM PST by Truth Table
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To: Neets
You're not so bad yourself. Good night, O.
395 posted on 03/21/2004 6:52:19 PM PST by ShadowDancer
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To: Spanaway Lori
Your tag line kind of says it all too.

It's funny how to the Dems. Kerry's veteran status makes him immune to criticism, when it never stopped them from pouncing on real war hero veterans, GHW Bush and Bob Dole.
396 posted on 03/21/2004 6:53:56 PM PST by F.J. Mitchell (Is a pompuus,priviliged, jetset punk ,really a proper Presidential prospect?)
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To: bvw
I've lived under rain, wind, snow, flood, fire, etc. etc. And blue skys, warm balmy weather. None of that was sucky. It was what it was.

Did the weather ever shoot at you for trying to buy food?

You have lived in three places for what -- each not many years -- but you know all the tides and times of what is good and bad in politic, eh?

Fourteen years and eight years. And more then three places. don't know where you got that idea. And perhaps having lived under them a little I might just possibly know a tad bit about how those systems do and do not work yes.

I'm favoring a multi-party system -- for in such systems the political ideals are better carried -- a vote is for an idea, and not the current vote for for a person or a "party".

Please point out one multi-party system for which this is true.

397 posted on 03/21/2004 6:54:16 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Te audire non possum. Musa sapientum fixa est in aure)
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To: Beck_isright
To create noise and call those of us who have been loyal to the conservative cause such creative and wonderful names as "Soros lovers", "Mobyites", "communists"(now that's a good one for those of us who have been overseas staring at AK-47's), "DUers" and names which are forbidden for me to mention but ok for the Bushbots.

I tried debating you several times. Each time, you initiated the name calling in your first reply.

I've seen threads where you did this over and over to various posters.

Bye!

398 posted on 03/21/2004 6:55:05 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: Beck_isright; potlatch; onyx; Bob J; MeekOneGOP; nopardons; Jim Robinson; ladyinred; devolve; ...
The comic relief after the April 22, 1971 Jean-Fraud Kerry, Communist Drag Queen Wows Senate Foreign Relations Committee was a godsend.

Let me say, first instincts are truest, and my response, strictly based on the extant adieu without prior association is:

Yet the statement itself demands parsing, diagramming, "unpacking" or "deconstructing", and response.

FR has changed. Deal with that fact boys and girls.

Bombast, patronization.

Many of us grew up in a more conservative era, where our nation and our freedoms were first and foremost. Now we learn that it that is not the case. Principles are for losers according to the Bots and most of the ignorant posters here on FR. To create noise and call those of us who have been loyal to the conservative cause such creative and wonderful names as "Soros lovers", "Mobyites", "communists"(now that's a good one for those of us who have been overseas staring at AK-47's), "DUers" and names which are forbidden for me to mention but ok for the Bushbots.

An appeal to an ideal "conservative cause" not defined. Generalized slander re "bots", "ignorant", reminiscent of Kerry's "murderers and rapists". Ah, but I went door to door for Barry Goldwater, listened intently to M. Stanton Evans, prefer the tax cuts of Bush to the tax hikes of Kerry, and so am ipso facto conservative.

The noise has driven off many of the best posters from this site. Now FR has become the Fluff of the RNC, posting such creative threads as "Pray for President Bush - Day 1276", "The Economy (Freep this poll)", " FReeper After Actions", "After Action Freep A.N.S.W.E.R. AUSTIN TX 3/20/04", etc...

The charge of "fluff of the RNC" is not supported by the anecdotal evidence of a handful of threads. Each day presents hundreds of threads, tens of thousands of posts.

It sounds more to me like everyone is proud of responding but no one has the convictions excpet for what the RNC faxes them. This election should not be about "Republican" v. "Democrat" principles. Neither party has any principles. If you morons believe that, then you are bigger fools than I thought. This is about the future of America an the viability of capitalism in this nation.

Item: my fax machine has received no talking points from the RNC--your hyperbole is tedious. Though you claim this election should not be about "Republican" v. "Democrat", November 2, there will be those two choices--you're dangerously close to moral equivalence. More namecalling with "morons" and "fools"--this kind of "repent, sinners, the end is at hand" is not helpful. It is about--among other things--the viability of capitalism, but Bush is procapitalist while Kerry is a battery-operated toy of anticapitalism.

Why "FReepers" can not see this and hold "their man" to the Hamiltonian principles of limited Federal government and enhancing our freedoms by reducing dependency on any government. By controlling immigration, restructuring the tax system to pre-1916 form, and by enhancing the defense of this nation by using actions instead of words when dealing with foreign powers (little things, like enforcing the acts against nations which do business with Cuba, as Bush promised in 2000). Unfortunately you mind numbed morons don't care. If you're 401K shows a fiat currency positive figure, you're all happy as a fly in a cow pasture.

Hamilton doesn't do it for me vis-a-vis limited government; Jefferson, now there's a limiter. Repealing the income tax is a swell idea; so is perpetual motion, a cure for cancer, and almost anything free. As for "enhancing the defense of this nation by using actions instead of words when dealing with foreign powers", while you were out, Bush has led our forces in two successful wars of liberation, Libya is copping to a plea, and the rest of the pirates have been struck dumb. Again with the namecalling: "mind numbed morons", "fly in a cowpasture"--and I don't even have a 401K.

What I do have is a great respect for the enormous effort Jim has applied to create the largest forum for intelligent discourse and activism on the right.

It is not enough, it is never enough to merely have an opinion--you must make that opinion popular with a majority of voters in order to be effective.

This is why Bush will beat Kerry and a third party will remain a marginal issue.

399 posted on 03/21/2004 6:58:00 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: Beck_isright
I always miss the swan songs.
Damn!
400 posted on 03/21/2004 7:03:06 PM PST by mabelkitty (A tuning, a Vote in the topic package to the starting US presidency election fight)
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