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Spike Lee: Larry Bird Most Overated Player in NBA History.
ESPN
| 3/21/04
| CWB
Posted on 03/21/2004 9:34:19 AM PST by cwb
I just caught a clip of this on ESPN and couldn't help but notice the similarities between what Spike Lee said and that of what Rush said. Not only did he say Bird was the most overated player, he said that the "white media" would make you think that there were no great players before Larry Bird. I could tell that McKindry was uncomfortable with the story and it's going to be interesting to see how other's respond. Maybe we can get a comment from Isiah Thomas and Dennis Rodman who said that if Bird was a black man, he'd be just another average B-ball player.
TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: basketball; larrybird; nba; spikelee
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To: squidly
The acting was good, but the film was lame. What Korean would call himself a n***er? The stereotypical treatment of the Italians was over the top.
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posted on
03/21/2004 10:02:41 AM PST
by
AUH2OY2K
To: cwb
Maybe we can get a comment from Isiah Thomas and Dennis Rodman who said that if Bird was a black manDid Thomas say that? As I remember he was dragged, as the team captain, into the mess because of what Rodman said.
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posted on
03/21/2004 10:02:51 AM PST
by
Dolphy
To: cwb
Spike Lee calling someone over-rated is like John Kerry calling someone two-faced.
To: Tall_Texan
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posted on
03/21/2004 10:03:24 AM PST
by
Bloody Sam Roberts
(ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,Ooooooo.....I think I over-medicated,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø)
To: cwb
How many of Spike Lee's films have broken even or better?
Oh, only one? Two if you count the short "She's Gotta Have It"?
Must be the racist White Man®.
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posted on
03/21/2004 10:06:52 AM PST
by
pogo101
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posted on
03/21/2004 10:06:54 AM PST
by
mhking
(Terrorists are vulnerable to silver bullets....and any other bullets.)
To: The Mayor
I was a big Celtic fan during his career, white or black, he was one of the greatest....I'm fine with recognizing individuals in team sports and individually he probably was among the best, but there is no debate that the Celtics with Larry Bird is one of the greatest teams of all time.
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posted on
03/21/2004 10:07:24 AM PST
by
jimfree
(Neither a browser nor a lurker be.)
To: cynicom
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posted on
03/21/2004 10:08:28 AM PST
by
tcuoohjohn
(Follow The Money)
To: MizzouTigerRepublican
Note: This didn't appear to be an interview.
They are to be part of commercials that I believe ESPN is doing were celebs are commenting on their favorite NBA palyers and answering relative questions. As I said, Samuel L. Jackson was asked who he would give the ball to at cruch time...and he picked that overated Larry Bird:) While ESPN did have the guts to at least broadcast the remarks, they still took no position on it yet...and they still said more was to come, as this was only a teaser.
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posted on
03/21/2004 10:09:48 AM PST
by
cwb
(Kerry: The only person who could make Bill Clinton look like a moderate)
To: jimfree
They all contributed to the success of the celtics.
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posted on
03/21/2004 10:12:58 AM PST
by
The Mayor
(Instead of grumbling because you don't get what you want, be thankful you don't get what you deserve)
To: CROSSHIGHWAYMAN
"You must have seen the movie, PISTOL." Never saw the movie, but I was an undergrad at LSU when Maravich was playing there. "Groanup" is correct.
To: cwb
One of those commercials even has Samuel L. Jackson endorsing Bird as the player he'd want with the ball in his hand when time was running down.I was listening to the 1988 Hawks/Celtics Game 7 which came down to the most amazing two man shoot out down the stretch I have ever "witnessed". It was like everyone else was frozen with Wilkins and Bird swapping shots without missing.
It came down to who blinked first.
Dominique did....darn it.
From a google search:
May 22, 1988 Engages in classic fourth-quarter shootout with Hawks' Dominique Wilkins in Game 7 of Eastern Conference semis. Hits nine of 10 shots and scores 20 points to Wilkins' 16 in the final 12 minutes of Celtics' 118-116 win (though 'Nique finished with 47 to Bird's 34). ''The fourth quarter," McHale would say, "was like two people standing at arm's length and punching each other."
To: Tall_Texan
Here's what I sent them. I paraphrased some of what other Freepers have atated here.
I just caught a clip of Spike Lee on ESPN and couldn't help but notice the similarities between what Spike Lee said about Larry Bird and what Rush Limbaugh said about Donovan McNabb on your network.
He made some ridiculous comments about Larry Bird. Not only did he say Larry Bird was the most overated player, he said that the "white media" would make you think that there were no great players before Larry Bird. This is even more outrageous than Limbaugh's idiotic statements and I'm wondering what kind of response ESPN will have to this hate filled, race baiting, has-been film director.
I could tell that Mr. McKindry was uncomfortable with the story and it's going to be interesting to see how other's respond.
Maybe we can get a comment from Isiah Thomas and Dennis Rodman who said that if Bird was a black man, he'd be just another average basketball player.
I doubt that the gutless wonders that run ESPN will comment at all on Spike Lee's statements. Your probably afraid of being labeled 'racist' for questioning a black man on the subject of race.
Because, as I'm sure you all know, there is no such thing as a black racist. Only white people can be racist. Jesse Jackson tells me so.
Let's see how many sports reporters call up Bird and ask him for a reaction. Let's ask Bill Walton if he'll publicly trash Spike Lee the way Tom Jackson trashed Rush Limbaugh. I won't hold my breath.
If you won't respond to Spike Lee, then at least respond to me and answer this question:
What exactly is the difference between Spike Lee's comments and Rush Limbaugh's comments other than the race of the accuser and the accused?
Thanks for your attention.
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posted on
03/21/2004 10:17:27 AM PST
by
Bloody Sam Roberts
(ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,Ooooooo.....I think I over-medicated,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø)
To: Tall_Texan
Of course 'atated' = stated.
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posted on
03/21/2004 10:18:09 AM PST
by
Bloody Sam Roberts
(ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,Ooooooo.....I think I over-medicated,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø)
To: glasseye
Spike lee is a toad.. do you see his antics while sitting court-side at a game/ a self indulged bigot
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posted on
03/21/2004 10:18:45 AM PST
by
rang1995
To: Dolphy
I remember that Rodman made the initial remark, but I think that Thomas also stood by it.
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posted on
03/21/2004 10:20:28 AM PST
by
cwb
(Kerry: The only person who could make Bill Clinton look like a moderate)
To: SamAdams76
How many Super Bowl rings did that QB from Philly have?How many times did he MAKE it to the Superbowl?
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posted on
03/21/2004 10:20:36 AM PST
by
PMCarey
To: cwb
"Spike Lee is one of the biggest race-baiters out there"
Yep and he's always in there stirring the pot. The good news is Spike is old news. He has already shown the kind of person he is. He's cried wolf too many times. So there is nothing new here.
To: cwb
Spike Lee is obsesed with race, no doubt about it. As far as being a racist, I don't know. If you think an entire group of people (white) are out to get you, and you hate or dislike them for it, does that make you a racist or just a paranoid?
It's a visious cycle. Spike complains that he would be more rich and famous if he was white. He's enourmously talented and could make popular movies of the Spielberg variety if he wanted, but he doesn't want to. If you don't want commercialism to polute your art, which I respect, don't complain becasue you're not as rich as Spielberg.
The real problem is a group of people that wake up every morning with the belief that every bad thing that happened to them the day before the result of white oppression.
Cornell West is another example. I like Dr. West for the most part. He's intelligent, articulate and has an engaging sense of humor. Until he gets on the '400 years of white oppression' kick. This is a guy that quit or got fired from Harvard and turned right around and got a job a Stanford. If that's oppression, I'll take a double helping, please. On the other hand he might think that if it were not for white oppression, he would be the President of Harvard.He might really believe that. I don't know what to call that type of thinking.
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posted on
03/21/2004 10:23:09 AM PST
by
tjg
To: Bloody Sam Roberts
The ESPN reporter, Chris McKendry, is female.
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posted on
03/21/2004 10:23:32 AM PST
by
Tall_Texan
(The War on Terror is mere collateral damage to the Democrats' War on Bush.)
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