Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Echoes of the Wild West in one man's border war
Arizona Daily Star ^ | 20 March 2004 | Michael Marizco

Posted on 03/20/2004 12:20:50 PM PST by JackelopeBreeder

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-56 next last
To: *bang_list; Travis McGee; B4Ranch; Jeff Head; wardaddy
Ya'll should see what my Barrett 82A1 will do to an engine block.........for that matter my 460 weatherby magnum does a nice job also, albeit a bit tough on the sholder if a target rich envronment is encountered......:o)

I consider all engine blocks owned by the uninvited on my property to be target fodder. Tresspassers may drive onto my land but they will walk off to waiting LEO's if they are lucky. This guy should get hisself a backhoe to dig a little suprise just inside his fence line if those speeding oh dark thirty trucks drive thru em. Landscaping is still legal last I looked. Scrap metal from wrecked trucks, rewards from the contraband found abandoned etc etc will pay for the efforts quite well. Also as a lasts resort the proper application of the three "S" rule would stop this crap IMHO.

Stay Safe !

21 posted on 03/20/2004 1:45:44 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: All
I've asked my Republican congressman (supporter of Tancredo) to please(!) keep an eye on federal law enforcement -- no Waco-style attacks on citizens ever again, please. Many scum are working with the active assistance of the meddling, corrupt government of Mexico to stop citizens from protecting their property.

I am pleased to acknowledge my hypocrisy by excepting from Waco-style attacks leftist pig vomit who have "moved beyond being Americans" and work to "bring it all down, man" or give aid and comfort to enemies no matter where the pig vomit are, mainstream media offices, universities, the street, or even Congress itself.

22 posted on 03/20/2004 1:52:09 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (Benedict Arnold was a hero for both sides in the same war, too!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: JackelopeBreeder
Yes sir. This brings to mind how the colonists were expected to allow the British soldiers access to anything they wanted or face charges. You recall what it took to put a stop to that.

Traps, punji-stakes, caltrops, etc. seem to be some legal (non-fatal) options for property owners, especially if you post warnings every few yard on the perimeter (bilingually, of course). A low-light capable camera with the time-stamp feature would help defend your case if it came to court. Still is good, moving-picture documentation of tresspassing is far better. This is a war and our "generals" are trying to insure we lose it, so we have to stay ahead of them creatively.
23 posted on 03/20/2004 2:01:29 PM PST by NewRomeTacitus (You have the right to be deported immediately or serve 1-year for Invasion. Mandatory.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Squantos
That's a GREAT idea!! He can dig a hole anywhere on his property he likes, and if they fall in, oh, well. I was just putting the finishing touches on a new reservoir and you just happened to wander into it. Sorry about that! LOL

We will do the best we can, but we're obviously not in a position to post a guard there.

This quote just kills me. You are a law enforcement officer. You know there are laws being violated at this site on a regular, sometimes daily basis, and you can't be bothered to watch the property to prevent it and perhaps put a stop to the crimes permanently? You dishonor your badge, sir. Step down immediately, and return the taxpayer's money that you took under false pretenses.

24 posted on 03/20/2004 2:08:30 PM PST by Hardastarboard
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: JimRed
The feds should issue this good citizen a few cases of anti-tank size land mines.

If the feds did so, the ordnance would come with too many restrictions to be of any use. Better he call Ranch Rescue and get reinforcements down there pronto.

25 posted on 03/20/2004 2:11:38 PM PST by BlazingArizona
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: yankeedame
A truck can run a couple of miles with a punctured radiator or blown tires, and even a 7.62 NATO round won't do much more than bounce off an engine block.

The door panels and the windows are pretty much invisible to .30 caliber rifle rounds.

Love the tagline BTW.

L

26 posted on 03/20/2004 2:16:34 PM PST by Lurker (Don't bite the hand that meads you.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: JackelopeBreeder
This guy lives pretty close to the US Army Intelligence school ... there's thousands of soldiers, SIGINT stuff all over the place, and (more relevantly) the Border Patrol keeps a blimp up there with spy cameras 24/7 watching for illegal immigrants. Too bad that, with all that, a private citizen has to resort to force to defend his home from foreign aggressors.
27 posted on 03/20/2004 2:19:03 PM PST by Caesar Soze
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Hardastarboard
Yeah if the landowner had a meth cooker on his property, a 2K electric bill from grow lights, had made it public he'd never pay taxes again , or was selling fried spotted owl .......... they'd be there 24/7. All about revenue producing arrest and seizures these days and theres just no duckets in the international catch and release program. LEO's and their Goobermint level ilk want nothing to do with the "illegal" alien thang.

It's gonna take a few retirees to move into "settlements" on the borders (with supporting fields of fire) IMO to make ground movement of contraband and invasion of this country by criminals a bit harder. Legal immigration is a great thing as that is what America has been made up of. Illegal aliens, invading this country should be dealt with as such.........invaders, criminals and enemies of our republic. Those US citizens found to be supporting illegal entry to this country should be stripped of their citizenship and deported after a 25 year stint in prison. Such "citizens" are no less dangerous to the long term safety and security of this nation than terrorists who murder.

Stay safe !

28 posted on 03/20/2004 2:36:25 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: Hardastarboard
He can dig a hole anywhere on his property he likes, and if they fall in, oh, well
 
The sad ending to this story is that the ILLEGAL ALIEN, SMUGGLING COCAINE across this guys property who falls in a hole can sue him and half the courts around will seize his home and give it to the illegal alien drug smuggler. 

29 posted on 03/20/2004 2:36:48 PM PST by azcap
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: NewRomeTacitus
(bilingually, of course).

That would kind of ruin the fun. Hey, if they come into this country, they should know english

30 posted on 03/20/2004 2:39:51 PM PST by lowbridge
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: dts32041
Where did you get the detail about the LEO also cutting down his fences?

31 posted on 03/20/2004 2:47:54 PM PST by Starwolf
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

Comment #32 Removed by Moderator

To: crz
I hate to say it, but since it reads as if the politicos & even sheriff are more sympathetic to the illegals, I can't help but wonder who is paying whom, including the fence-cutting feds.

Maybe he should dig some 'truck traps', and lay tire spikes? Build a 'heavily fortified mud-walled' compound? Use close-set 6" concrete filled steel pipe fence posts?

I also agree with Lurker; shooting the hood only makes them mad; shoot through the glass. If "he doesn't want to hurt anyone", he shouldn't shoot at all. Shooting is serious business, so shoot seriously or not at all.

He reminds me a bit of some of the idiots who 'threaten' an intruder with an unloaded weapon to scare them, and wonder why instead they got shot by the intruder's LOADED weapon.
33 posted on 03/20/2004 3:28:42 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (The world needs more horses, and fewer Jackasses!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: philetus
If you execute a criminal, and ten he is found to have been "wrongly convicted", you can't bring him back.

If a citizen, whom the police (whose job is 'protect society', not individuals) are not obligated to protect, is killed by a criminal, he will "receive justice" from the system, through arrest, trial, conviction, and "rehabilitation" of the perpetrator.

Guess you have to be Liberal to understand these things; I sure don't.
34 posted on 03/20/2004 3:37:52 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (The world needs more horses, and fewer Jackasses!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: crz
You know what 911 is on the phone system?



The government's idea of DIAL A PRAYER!
35 posted on 03/20/2004 3:51:00 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Armedanddangerous
We keep trying but thanks to Tucson (with the help of the UofA College of LIBERAL Arts), Nogales, Yuma, and south Phoenix he keeps getting back in and when he decides to pull the plug those same folks will put in a Aztlan Me.Ch.A. Reconquista.
36 posted on 03/20/2004 3:54:26 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: SandRat
LOL!
37 posted on 03/20/2004 4:14:55 PM PST by crz
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies]

To: crz
Sounds like a case for a better fence, some well marked 2nd amendment land mines.
38 posted on 03/20/2004 4:25:25 PM PST by JohnBovenmyer (I)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Lurker; Squantos
A truck can run a couple of miles with a punctured radiator or blown tires, and even a 7.62 NATO round won't do much more than bounce off an engine block.

The door panels and the windows are pretty much invisible to .30 caliber rifle rounds.

As bright and shiny new tank gunners on the M48 tank, we were taught that 6-8 hits on a common unarmored *soft-skinned* truck from the .50 Browning machinegun would pretty well render the vehicle unusable- that many hits were probably going to take out multiple tires, the fuel tank, carberetter, battery, driver or other accessories essential to continued operation.

If we were to use the .30 caliber M37 machinegun mounted coaxially with the main gun, a weap[on using the same .30-06 cartridge as the M1 Garand or Springfield rifles, it was suggested that we go for a 12-15 round burst to obtain the same result. That was with military ball ammunition, of course.

I have no doubt that given a good .30-06 or .308/ 7,62 NATO rifle I could obtain the same result with careful aimed fire out to a quarter mile. Given a common lever-action deer rifle in the .30-30 cartridge, I could do about as well out to a couple of hundred yards, maybne 300, with the problem beyongd that point being more one of staying on target with rapid repeat shots than and problem with the effect of the bullets once they arrived, though the leverguns are limited on the shape of the bullets used in them.

But an M1 Garand, M1A or FAL would do fine. And a .50 rifle backed up with such a semiauto would be nearly ideal.

39 posted on 03/20/2004 4:25:49 PM PST by archy (Concrete shoes, cyanide, TNT! Done dirt cheap! Neckties, contracts, high voltage...Done dirt cheap!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: JackelopeBreeder
"We kind of suspect that their reaction is to his firing on them," said Rod Rothrock, a commander with the Cochise County Sheriff's Department. "You could always expect violence to instigate violence."

He said his deputies have increased their patrols nearby. "We will do the best we can, but we're obviously not in a position to post a guard there," he said.

They can make more money escorting the drug shipments. No wonder they don't want the local homeowners shooting at their well-paying friends.

40 posted on 03/20/2004 4:29:46 PM PST by archy (Concrete shoes, cyanide, TNT! Done dirt cheap! Neckties, contracts, high voltage...Done dirt cheap!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-56 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson