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Echoes of the Wild West in one man's border war
Arizona Daily Star ^ | 20 March 2004 | Michael Marizco

Posted on 03/20/2004 12:20:50 PM PST by JackelopeBreeder

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To: archy
I think a few metal posts stuck behind chunks of bear grass buried at diff and transfer case height and some of those nifty pieces of 1/2 inch winch cable strung at a 60 degree angle to the vehicle path would do wonders for stopping the high speed vehicle crossings. Toss in some home made ranger jacks and thus it's all about the proper application of landscaping .........:o)

Stay safe Archy !!

41 posted on 03/20/2004 4:40:24 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: Squantos
I think a few metal posts stuck behind chunks of bear grass buried at diff and transfer case height and some of those nifty pieces of 1/2 inch winch cable strung at a 60 degree angle to the vehicle path would do wonders for stopping the high speed vehicle crossings. Toss in some home made ranger jacks and thus it's all about the proper application of landscaping .........:o) Stay safe Archy

I'd reckon it's nothing a pickup's worth of railroad rail wouldn't handle. Elevate one end about three feet high and point the low end in the direction from which trouble is expected; if they high center themselves, it's not a moving target any more. Even scrap oilfield pipe would do.

That and some road carpet ought to do it, a little easier to move out of the way than ranger jacks.

42 posted on 03/20/2004 4:45:42 PM PST by archy (Concrete shoes, cyanide, TNT! Done dirt cheap! Neckties, contracts, high voltage...Done dirt cheap!)
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To: JackelopeBreeder
"The Border Patrol's job was made more difficult by Kozak's forbidding them to enter his land, said Tucson Sector spokesman Andy Adame."

So just what, exactly, do you think the Border Patrol's job IS, then, Mr. Adame? Taking payola (geetus) from the drug smugglers?

43 posted on 03/20/2004 4:46:39 PM PST by nightdriver
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To: JackelopeBreeder
Good luck Mr. Kozak!
44 posted on 03/20/2004 6:40:51 PM PST by 4.1O dana super trac pak (Let them eat amnesty)
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To: janetgreen
Attention, Senator McCain and buddies in the House - Arizona citizens are under fire by Mexico - where are you?????

There sympathies lie with the criminal invaders, not actual Americans.

Right up to the Casa Blanca.

45 posted on 03/20/2004 8:15:09 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Squantos
Besides the backhoe to cut some anti-vehicle ditches and berms, you could also put a load of scrap rebar and angle iron to use, planted at a 45* angle on the avenues of approach. They'll be invisible at night, and will stop a vehicle, painfully.
46 posted on 03/20/2004 8:19:26 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Squantos
Good point! If this guy puts a dozer blade into the earth to make vehicle obstacles, you can bet the EPA will parachute in a SWAT team to take him down for destroying endangered vermin habitat.
47 posted on 03/20/2004 8:21:36 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Travis McGee
All about the proper landscaping IMO............:o)

Stay safe !

48 posted on 03/20/2004 8:30:09 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: nightdriver
So just what, exactly, do you think the Border Patrol's job IS, then, Mr. Adame? Taking payola (geetus) from the drug smugglers?

From the article:
"The Border Patrol's job was made more difficult by Kozak's forbidding them to enter his land, said Tucson Sector spokesman Andy Adame.
Kozak says he threatened the agency with an injunction because, like the smugglers, the agents kept cutting down his fences."

49 posted on 03/21/2004 1:35:59 AM PST by Drammach (44 Automag.. where are you??)
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To: JackelopeBreeder
Bump.
50 posted on 03/21/2004 5:35:19 AM PST by Missouri
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To: Squantos
Yep, you could make some typical southwestern terrain VERY challenging to cross at night at high speed!
51 posted on 03/21/2004 2:13:03 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: sergeantdave
Geez, if it's drug smugglers alley on this guy's property why not invite in the feds?

Because the BATF would likely come in and arrest him for committing the unpardonable sin of owning something more than peashooters.

52 posted on 03/21/2004 2:18:22 PM PST by Houmatt (The FMA: For your children's future.)
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To: JackelopeBreeder
Now, I would like to hear from the Bushbots who seem to think giving amnesty to illegal aliens is somehow going to put an end to things like this.

Somebody?

Anybody?

53 posted on 03/21/2004 2:28:10 PM PST by Houmatt (Seal the frickin' borders already!)
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To: yankeedame
Really? I heard it was in this order: radiator, tires, engine and then glass.

I think it depends on one's weaponry and objective.

Almost any shot to the radiator will limit a vehicle's useful range to a few miles. If the vehicle is approaching the shooter, the radiator is probably the largest target and so shooting it will be the most reliable way of ensuring the crooks can't just drive away as though nothing happened.

Shooting the tires will incapacitate a vehicle more quickly than shooting the radiator, but they're a smaller target and thus harder to hit.

Shooting the engine will stop an engine instantly *IF* the bullet reaches certain critical parts. Depending upon the weapon used, this may be likely or unlikely. A .50 Barett would probably have a decent chance of stopping an engine with one shot. A .22lr would be much less likely to do so. Intermediate firearms would offer intermediate odds.

Shooting at the occupants of the vehicle, of course, would incapacitate them (and thus the vehicle) immediately if a hit was scored, but depending upon jurisdiction may pose legal problems unless the occupants are directly threatening the defender with severe bodily harm.

Perhaps the best strategy would be to use a rifle with a telescopic scope and start by taking cover and shooting at the radiator. If one is shooting from behind cover, the attackers aren't likely to shoot accurately while their vehicle is moving, but a scope should allow the defender to see how they're reacting as their vehicle stops.

54 posted on 03/21/2004 4:36:39 PM PST by supercat (Why is it that the more "gun safety" laws are passed, the less safe my guns seem?)
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To: supercat
Thank you, Supercat.

Just goes to prove you learn something new everyday and/or on FR.
55 posted on 03/21/2004 7:58:55 PM PST by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: janetgreen
Drinking tequila with Arbusto and Fox.
56 posted on 03/24/2004 8:34:55 PM PST by Pelham
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