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John Forbes Kerry – Domestic Terrorist
PipeLineNews.org ^ | March 19, 2004 | William A. Mayer

Posted on 03/20/2004 9:29:25 AM PST by johnqueuepublic

John Forbes Kerry – Domestic Terrorist

March 19, 2004 - by William A. Mayer

We are not sure exactly what one has to do, in these days of moral ablation, to disqualify oneself from running for elective office.

The Clinton years notwithstanding, there have always been parameters within which national candidates must comport themselves - certain minimum standards that even prospective politicians might reasonably meet.

This year, however is very different.

It’s quite clear that the Democrat Party is busted - a sprung watch - beyond repair. The nominative process that we find ourselves within, clearly demonstrates this.

That a bizarre, snarling, hate filled candidate of the diminutive stature of Howard Dean was almost anointed - as if deemed by heavenly hosts perched upon excelsior clouds - is reason enough to be suspect of the health of the party.

Yet on Dean’s heels comes an even more troubling individual who surfaced in the carnage of the media’s frenzy to de-elect Howie.

That individual is of course, John Forbes Kerry.

John Forbes Kerry.

Roll those words around in your mouth and what do you get?

You get a craggy - almost gaunt looking, but virile - New Englander.

You get a Skull & Crossbones Yalie, a war hero and the most liberal member of the United States Senate.

You get a guy who says he can speak for the little guy, but whose personal fortune is about $750 million and whose cash-cow wifey’s company outsources 6 out of 7 of its jobs to Third World dung heaps.

One minor complication, however…John Forbes Kerry is a domestic terrorist.

That's not a typo.

John Forbes Kerry is a domestic terrorist.

In large part due to New York’s real newspaper of record - the Sun - and their award winning journalist - Thomas Lipscomb - the true story of Kerry’s membership in the radical revolutionary group, Vietnam Veterans Against the War, has finally seen the light of day.

While Kerry was the national spokesman for VVAW [1970-1971] the group coldly discussed a plot to invade the capital building and then assassinate pro-war United States Senators. This was nothing less than a plan to violently overthrow the lawful government of the United States.

“My plan was that on the last day we would go into the [congressional] offices we would schedule the most hardcore hawks for last — and we would shoot them all...I was serious." Scott Camil, VVAW

From one of the New York Sun's series of articles:

“…Mr. Nicosia also read quotes from FBI surveillance documents he obtained under the Freedom of Information Act as he was preparing his 2001 book, “Home to War."

“My evidence is incontrovertible. He was there," Mr. Nicosia said in an interview yesterday. “There’s no way that five or six agents saw his ghost there," said the historian, who lives in Marin County, north of San Francisco.

Mr. Nicosia said that the records show Mr. Kerry resigned from the group on the third day of the meeting, following discussion of the assassination plan and an argument between Mr. Kerry and another VVAW national coordinator, Al Hubbard.

Reading from an FBI informant report, Mr. Nicosia said, “John Kerry at a national Vietnam Veterans Against the War meeting appeared and announced to those present that he resigned for personal reasons but said he would be able to speak for VVAW " at future events." – Josh Gerstein, New York Sun - March 19, 2004

Please note that even Kerry’s “resignation" from the group was a self-serving act of convenience not conscience, only driven by Kerry’s desire to run for political office.

It's beyond comprehension that after attending at least one meeting where an active and serious assassination plan was discussed, Kerry was still willing to be their spokesman - anything that would get him media face-time.

Kerry has lied about his VVAW experience and his “anti-war" activities for over 30 years. His campaign has only now come clean because the evidence arrayed against him includes at least 6 different eye-witnesses and the testimony of FBI undercover agents who were also at those meetings.

Set against the realities of the war on terror, if holding a leadership position in the VVAW and his participation in discussions about assassinating United States Senators is not grounds for barring John Forbes Kerry from ever seeking elective office, we can’t imagine what is.

Kerry has never publicly rejected the VVAW, he has never apologized for his role as the organization's official spokesman nor has he rejected its terrorist agenda.

John Forbes Kerry is so monstrously ego-driven, so reckless, so lacking in veracity, judgment and temperament, that his candidacy should be rejected outright. If it proceeds it will be the final nail in the coffin of the Democrat Party, a party that will be crushed at the polls on November 2.


© 2004 William A. Mayer, PipeLineNews.org, all rights reserved


TOPICS: Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2004; darkplot; kerry; scottcamil; terror; thomaslipscomb; unfit; vvaw
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To: Godzilla
Well .. it goes along with the testimony Kerry gave before Congress where he was willing to say he witnessed brutal acts by other soldiers .. but never reported them to superior officers.
41 posted on 03/20/2004 1:44:36 PM PST by CyberAnt (The 2004 Election is for the SOUL of AMERICA)
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To: CyberAnt
"That's a pretty strong statement!"

Victory through strength.
42 posted on 03/20/2004 1:47:57 PM PST by johnqueuepublic
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To: estpeter
thx for the correction that time works better for me anyway.

planning on taping that and playing with it later.
43 posted on 03/20/2004 1:49:02 PM PST by johnqueuepublic
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To: johnqueuepublic
its a Drudge story but I havent seen it anywhere.

I can only find it on Rush and Newsmax.

Even on Vacation, Kerry's Foul Mouth Gets No Rest, Friday, March 19, 2004

Well, it turns out Hillary Clinton isn't the only one to use abusive language against Secret Service agents. Foulmouthed John "F." Kerry, noted for his obscenity-laced Web site and naughty interview with Rolling Stone, is at it again.

Trying to relax at the mansion in Idaho to avoid further meltdown, the Massachusetts Democrat saw his photo opportunity on the ski slopes go awry.

The New York Times reported today that Kerry rammed into one of his protectors, fell down and had himself a snow sandwich.

Owwww. The most painful flip-flop of all.

"When asked about the mishap a moment later, he said sharply, 'I don't fall down,' then used an expletive to describe the agent who 'knocked me over.'"

Hmm. If the FCC starts fining Kerry the way it's going after Howard Stern, Mrs. K will have to manage her investments better.

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I can just imagine what "President" Kerry's Fireside chats would be like.

My fellow citizens, Today we stand tall as we pause to raise our [bleep] hands ...

44 posted on 03/20/2004 2:24:39 PM PST by syriacus (Kerry abandoned the children of Southeast Asia and made it SEEM our GIs died in vain.)
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To: CyberAnt
testimony Kerry gave before Congress where he was willing to say he witnessed brutal acts by other soldiers

Today I was thinking....

If Kerry knew of brutal incidents, shouldn't Kerry have fought to have the the "bad behavior" of the soldiers punished?

Why did the alleged brutal acts by our GIs mean we had to withdraw from Vietnam?

That response only teaches unwilling soldiers that they can end a war by (the mere threat of) behaving brutally.

45 posted on 03/20/2004 2:32:08 PM PST by syriacus (Kerry abandoned the children of Southeast Asia and made it SEEM our GIs died in vain.)
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To: johnqueuepublic
I want to remind everyone that Martha Stewart is going to do a year in the can just for fibbing to the feds. Isn't the penalty for plotting to assassinate sitting Senators at least as severe?
46 posted on 03/20/2004 2:33:19 PM PST by Scarfo
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To: johnqueuepublic
You still seemingly grasp my point. I stated previously I am not arguing the facts of what you have stated, so the proverbial ball you are referring to was never in anyone's court. Let me give a few examples of how your post sounds:

BUSH IS A DESERTER!

CLINTON'S KILLED VINCE FOSTER!

KERRY IS A DOMESTIC TERRORIST!

RUMSFELD IS GUILTY OF WAR CRIMES!!

All of the above comments can be argued as having merit by those who make them. In some cases the case may be better then in others. However, in all cases those statements make the person who made them seem to be an extremist, hell bent on a specific narrow agenda.

There is plenty of ammunition to defeat Kerry w/o using the bombast that is being used in this post.

47 posted on 03/20/2004 2:35:21 PM PST by Michael.SF. (One Clinton in politics is 'probably more then enough'- b. clinton" (for once, I agree with him))
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To: Hon
Thank you, Hon.

Regards

Michael

48 posted on 03/20/2004 2:37:18 PM PST by Michael.SF. (One Clinton in politics is 'probably more then enough'- b. clinton" (for once, I agree with him))
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To: johnqueuepublic
What happened to Hon and Mikey? .... are these guys the type who post and run?

well, johnny, if you must know, since I posted earlier I have run to the hardware store twice, while I was replacing toilet seats in the upstairs and downstairs bath rooms. I also went for a two mile walk down by the waterfront with my wife. I then took an old American Flag to a church where an Eagle scout candidate was offering to properly dispose of American flags, complete with a playing of taps. I then had the car washed by some kids doing a fundraiser to pay for their trip to the Rose Parade in 2005.

And you?

I guess you have been at your computer all day.

49 posted on 03/20/2004 2:47:14 PM PST by Michael.SF. (One Clinton in politics is 'probably more then enough'- b. clinton" (for once, I agree with him))
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To: Michael.SF.
There is plenty of ammunition to defeat Kerry w/o using the bombast that is being used in this post.

D'ya think that the information in the post itself was bombastic, or just the label of domestic terrorist?

50 posted on 03/20/2004 2:53:25 PM PST by Truth Table
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To: syriacus
At the very least, Kerry should have reported it. I believe he said most of those things because the people he got the information from were phoney-baloney - and that has been proven. Kerry was making the stuff up .. which now explains why he didn't report it.

Kerry's ego knows no bounds - just another Clinton/Gore piece of garbage liberal.
51 posted on 03/20/2004 2:55:10 PM PST by CyberAnt (The 2004 Election is for the SOUL of AMERICA)
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To: johnqueuepublic; Hon; Michael.SF.
I'll side with hon and michael.sf. on this one--mostly.

When things like this event come up, I like to play a game of "what probably really happened?" So what do we know about Kerry at that age?

1. He was already thinking about his future political viability.

2. He craved the limelight.

3. He felt comfortable in public, and seem to know how to handle the media and public relations. People I've known said he was an engaging speaker at the time.

4. He had a huge ego.

5. He was in his late twenties and having a position of public prominence that was perhaps beyond what a young man should have.

6. He saw things in the war he didn't like, and felt angry about them. Let's face it: being on a Swift boat is not for the squeamish, and officers have to make painful decisions under stress.

7. (And this is a maybe) He thought he would get easy duty in the Navy, and was a little resentful at having to serve on a Swift Boat.

So, putting it all together, here's what I would guess happened. Kerry comes back from Vietnam and looks to get his name in lights. Being from a very leftist part of the country, he senses a lot of anger toward the war.

He's a bit shell-shocked himself, and feels comfortable expressing anger against the war. Because he's been there, friends immediately laud him for his stands. He hears about Vets against Vietnam, and rushes headlong into it without knowing a lot about it.

He has some discomfort at the more radical aspects of Vets against Vietnam, but ignores that because the organization is his ticket to prominence. A man seeking to become president some day is not going to want to overthrow the nation.

And then there's the Kansas City meeting. Kerry knew the group was a little strange, but this is off the scale. Seeking to kill Senators? Kerry knows he needs to get out, but he's addicted to the limelight. As he would many times later, he decides to be on both sides of the issue. He figures acting as the spokesman for now is harmless, especially since the plot went down to defeat. But the whole think makes Kerry nervous.

So can we call him a domestic terrorist? I don't think so. On his own, Kerry never would have advocated killing anyone. Had the plot not been defeated, my guess is Kerry would have reported it to the authorities.

The disturbing fact is that Kerry appeared to have no conscience throughout the whole episode. His whole goal was working toward getting elected to something. Right and wrong was just not part of the equation.

At the end, Kerry couldn't even defend or reject the Vets against Vietnam. His final calculus was "how can I milk the situation so as to get my name in the media without the embarrassment of being linked to some questionable people?"

If Kerry is elected and a terrorist attack happens, I fear that Kerry's first instinct will be "how can I use this attack to help get me in the polls?" That thinking can lead to very bad decisions.


52 posted on 03/20/2004 3:03:02 PM PST by Our man in washington
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To: johnqueuepublic
Cut-and-run types who can't stand to hear anything bad about their boy.
53 posted on 03/20/2004 3:27:35 PM PST by moonhawk (Actually, I'm voting FOR John Kerry....Before I vote AGAINST him.)
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To: johnqueuepublic
I know what's going on. Kerry's campaine is being directed by Steven King.
54 posted on 03/20/2004 4:05:34 PM PST by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get)
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To: Truth Table
or just the label of domestic terrorist?

Yes, I thought the label, and use of the word 'terrorist' was over the top.

55 posted on 03/20/2004 5:10:28 PM PST by Michael.SF. (One Clinton in politics is 'probably more then enough'- b. clinton" (for once, I agree with him))
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To: Our man in washington
Very well put.

Although I had not expressed it, your scenario parallels my thoughts and is far closer to the truth then the exaggerations indicated by the original post.

56 posted on 03/20/2004 5:15:00 PM PST by Michael.SF. (One Clinton in politics is 'probably more then enough'- b. clinton" (for once, I agree with him))
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To: johnqueuepublic
This story needs LEGS! And I'm hopeful. Every day it reappears from a new source.
57 posted on 03/20/2004 8:42:57 PM PST by lainde (Heads up...We're coming and we've got tongue blades!!)
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To: johnqueuepublic
BTTT
58 posted on 03/20/2004 8:45:15 PM PST by Fiddlstix (This Space Available for Rent or Lease by the Day, Week, or Month. Reasonable Rates. Inquire within.)
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To: Michael.SF.
Look Michael, you broached the initial challenge and in my opinion you are way out of your league.

Your argument doesn't even make any sense.

You agree that the main point of the article is correct, then you offer 3 preposterous statments by DU types that have no basis in fact from the left as evidence of...what?

I am not going to take the cheap shot with regard to SF.

59 posted on 03/20/2004 9:51:01 PM PST by johnqueuepublic
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To: Michael.SF.
toilet seats???

I rest my case.
60 posted on 03/20/2004 9:52:53 PM PST by johnqueuepublic
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