Incoming pro-gay troll alert!

self | march 17 2004 | little jeremiah

[little jeremiah]

Dear Freepers,

A fellow Freeper alerted me to another discussion board, wherein the leftist/deviants are advising one another to register at Free Republic in order to pose as Christians, with the purpose of promoting homosexuality in a subversive manner, thereby disrupting Free Republic.

Here are a few comments, just so that you will be on the alert for this sort of thing: (if I may be so bold):

I'm a troll on a Freeper board by: anonymous 32 03/17/2004 @ 06:09PM

Hey....I've never done it but stumbled across a conservative board and created a character of a right-wing intolerant born-again Christian zealot. It's amazing how many people love me there. I don't know whether to laugh or cry. You create a character which you believe is preposterous and find out there are 100's out there like it. Use words like Rosie in an abomination and the posts of approval you get. I'm trying to figure out if somehow I can turn this into a good thing.

RE: I'm a troll on a Freeper board by: anonymous 03/17/2004 @ 06:10PM

LOL that's crazy OP (j/k)

RE: I'm a troll on a Freeper board by: anonymous 03/17/2004 @ 06:11PM

easy... just string them along for a few months, then let loose and tell them how you REALLY feel! Of course you'll be banned immediately, but with any luck you'll create so much mistrust among them that the board will fall apart. Good luck!

RE: I'm a troll on a Freeper board by: anonymous 03/17/2004 @ 06:13PM

Use your persona to ask how you as a Christian can reconcile hating gays with eating shrimp, per Leviticus.

RE: I'm a troll on a Freeper board by: anonymous 03/17/2004 @ 06:13PM

Nah, you get them to like you and know you, and then you start injecting some common sense here and there, like how you just cannot support government intrusiveness into the bedroom, and how it's just Democrat-like "Big Government" to think the government should solve all the social problems, and to just let the market decide, and that no churches would ever or should ever be compelled to perform gay marriages, but that you believe in freedom of religion in this country as a founding principle, so people should be able to choose to burn in hell or not, and that Bush shouldn't be forcing that choice on them. Stuff like that. I'm sure you can figure out a way to slowly, subtly get some stuff in there. Lots of good fodder in the whole budget big-government thing too.

RE: I'm a troll on a Freeper board by: anonymous 03/17/2004 @ 06:14PM

Start raging about sodomites and anal sex like they do, and gradually make it sound more and more erotic.

RE: I'm a troll on a Freeper board by: anonymous 03/17/2004 @ 06:14PM

6:11's idea is good, plus waiting will give you time to get used to how the board is moderated, and when would be the optimum time to reveal your true self when you don't expect any deleting moderators around for a while.

RE: I'm a troll on a Freeper board by: anonymous 03/17/2004 @ 06:15PM

I'm on my 2nd subversive character at Lucianne.com It's fun in a way, but I can only take those people in small doses. They really are toxic.

[null and void]

You're a fiscal conservative + social libertarian = a liberal who knows how to add.

As opposed to a gay fiscal conservative + social libertarian = a liberal who knows how to add, but not multiply...

[John O]

Homosexuality itself doesn't kill anyone.

It killed a lot of Jeff Dahmers 'lovers'. Seems that most of the worst serial killers are 'gay'. But that's really just anecdotal and I know you don't like that kind of info.

If the syndrome popularly known as homosexuality doesn't kill anyone why do those infected with it commonly have a lifespan 20+ years shorter that the uninfected?

[John O]

You've picked such a bad analogy

You made the analogy. I'm debunking it. You postulated an equivalence between sexual deviancy and fast food. I simply pointed out that no McDonalds manager has ever been tried for forcing some kid to eat a big mac while hundreds of 'gays' have been tried for molesting children.

You can't compare the two.

[John O]

or do you have some numbers?

I've pointed you to scripters database lots of times. You won't read the numbers (and probably would refuse to believe any set of numbers that contradicted your pro-gay leanings no matter how well documented)

[VRWC_minion]

See Acts 15. The laws in Lev, that survive are in there. They happen to be ones that existed before the 10 commandments known as Noahide laws and they also happen to be ones specifically mentioned in Lev to be for ALL souls as well as jewish strangers.

[ArGee]

td: But logically, if we outlaw homosexuality (nevermind how we could go about that!) because homosexuals molest children, then we must also outlaw heterosexuality Heterosexuals also molest children.

John O: Molestation is illegal and should be prosecuted to the extreme whenever proven. Since the odds are far greater that someone who practices homosexual behavior will also molest homosexual behavior should be outlawed (this is not the only reason however, just one of many).

You've been doing a great job, John, but you missed one. His comment in parentheses "(nevermind how we could go about that)" completely ignores that making homosexual behavior illegal is the NORM. The homosexuals are using activist judges to remove those laws. We know exactly how we would go about that because we went about that for over 200 years. And, surprisingly enough, it didn't create a bedroom police and didn't turn America into a Christian Taliban nation.

Just thought I'd throw that in for any lurkers.

Good to "see" you.

Shalom.

[ArGee]

Gays love to try to force the other side to "prove" that gay marriage won't work (knowing that things that haven't been tried yet have no track record by which to judge them),

It hasn't been tried here yet, but it has been tried, or at least widely accepted homosexual activity. Unfortunately, none of those civilizations has lasted to be used as an example. While this doesn't prove that acceptance of homosexual behavior caused them to fall, it doesn't allow them to be used as success stories.

OTOH: The Neatherlands has legalized gay marriage, and all marriage has dropped significantly as a result. I would be very surprised if The Neatherlands, as we know it, lasts another fifty years.

Shalom.

[ArGee]

That's like farting in Grand Central Station.

Speaking from personal experience? :)

Shalom.

[ArGee]

Because conservatives are in favor of smaller, less intrusive government?

No, conservatives are in favor of limited government. That's not the same thing at all.

Government has a purpose. Restraining evil is one of those purposes. That's why our government made homosexual behavior illegal for decades. And it did so without becoming a bloated pig. That didn't start until just recently.

Shalom.

[TASMANIANRED]

There are 2 varieties of gays. The respectable gays and the in your face gays.

When I was a young newlywed living in an appartment, we had several gay couples as neighbors. The couple across the hall were wonderful people. I'd have trusted them with my first born. We looked out for each other. They behaved like an old married couple. I enjoyed cordial relations with them and would take them as neighbors again if I could.

There was a couple across the courtyard that were " in your face." Loud parties with open windows and nearly naked dirty dancing. Straight couples would have been arrested for the displays they put on.

They were very much disliked but it was because of the disrespect and abuse of their neighbors.

What is done behind closed doors is none of my business but doing it infront of open windows forces you behind the closed doors. I couldn't watch TV in peace, or study because of the loudness. Since my living room was directly across, I had to close my blinds and shut my drapes . We didn't have airconditioning in those days and the summers were sweltering on the 2nd floor. With the apt closed up , It felt like being in an oven.

I didn't care to see men in their skivies french kissing , or see them doing anything else. Their behavior affected the quality of my life.

[lentulusgracchus]

OTOH: The Neatherlands has legalized gay marriage, and all marriage has dropped significantly as a result. I would be very surprised if The Neatherlands, as we know it, lasts another fifty years.

It would be interesting if someone were to prepare a number of metrics of healthy psychology and apply them at both the individual and the societal level, i.e. not just in the aggregate, but weighted for the importance of social functions and the social importance of the individual discharging that role, and then give the Dutch a checkup and see how they do compared to other, less "advanced" societies -- like ours, or perhaps to a model of how 19th-century English society functioned, by way of comparison.

The Dutch have really experimented with liberal and superliberal social attitudes for years now, concerning everything from illegitimate pregnancies to homosexuality to drug use and secularism. Time to give them a periodic assessment.

[lentulusgracchus]

Restraining evil is one of those purposes. That's why our government made homosexual behavior illegal for decades.

I think that's putting it in small-enough words. What-you-said bump.

[tdadams]

If the syndrome popularly known as homosexuality doesn't kill anyone why do those infected with it commonly have a lifespan 20+ years shorter that the uninfected?

Sorry, John, it's difficult to have a serious debate with someone who doesn't know what he's talking about. Won't you do a little background research on where that 'short lifespan' myth came from.

[tdadams]

You made the analogy. I'm debunking it.

Well, you are making a quixotic attempt at it, but keep trying.

I simply pointed out that no McDonalds manager has ever been tried for forcing some kid to eat a big mac while hundreds of 'gays' have been tried for molesting children.

You obviously lost the debate on the macro level, so now we're chaning the focus to the micro level? Nice concession. Besides, you can't seem to make any argument whatsoever without changing the focus. We're talking about adult homosexuality. Not murder, not child molesting. Those are different issues. Clear enough?

[tdadams]

I've pointed you to scripters database lots of times.

That's so lazy as to be contemptible. It's no better than the people here who throw out wild conjecture and then tell people if they don't believe it to go look it up on Google.

I'm sure you believe every word of everything you read in scripter's database (and where did that come from, anyway), but forgive me if I like to give statistics a little more critical examination rather than accepting at face value everything I'm spoon fed.

You do concede the point, I hope, that statistics can be manipulated. If you don't think so, I guess you'll defend every poll and press release published by CNN, NOW, NARAL, NORML and People for the American Way? You believe every statistic cited by people like Paul Begala, Michael Moore, or Ralph Nader? I don't think so.

[tdadams]

The Neatherlands has legalized gay marriage, and all marriage has dropped significantly as a result.

Oh, really? Good luck proving that. Let's all repeat, correlation is not causation. But it sure is convenient to pretend otherwise, isn't it?

[tdadams]

No, conservatives are in favor of limited government... Government has a purpose. Restraining evil is one of those purposes.

According to ArGee. Tell me again where "restraining evil" is enumerated in the Constitution.

[cupcakes]

"Use your persona to ask how you as a Christian can reconcile hating gays with eating shrimp, per Leviticus."

LMAO. They obviously only know of Christianity what they glean from the press and people they consider witty leftist columnists. I welcome them to put that up here and watch them never make another post because they will be so lost in the sea of information they will get from the many learned people on the subject of Christianity and old and new testament. Like that one line will send knowledgable Christian, Jewish, or otherwise freepers crawling under the rug in a great conflict of morality. PATHETIC.

[John O]

His comment in parentheses "(nevermind how we could go about that)" completely ignores that making homosexual behavior illegal is the NORM. The homosexuals are using activist judges to remove those laws. We know exactly how we would go about that because we went about that for over 200 years. And, surprisingly enough, it didn't create a bedroom police and didn't turn America into a Christian Taliban nation.

Excellent point, and indeed, one I missed stating.

Good to see you too. I'd been off the board for a couple weeks (emergency appendectomy but feeling much better now)

[John O]

Won't you do a little background research on where that 'short lifespan' myth came from.

Original calculated from death announcments in 'gay' newspapers. Further death reports have pretty much backed it up. Again see scripter's database

If they don't have a much shorter lifespan then why are they screaming so much about the suicide rate for young people recruited into the 'gay' lifestyle or about increased GRIDS funding because infected people are dropping dead?