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Will We Face a Madrid Mistake?
Special to FreeRepublic ^ | [March 18, 2004] | John Armor (Congressman Billybob)

Posted on 03/16/2004 9:13:25 PM PST by Congressman Billybob

Spain has just had its own 9/11, literally. The population of the US is almost eight times as large as that of Spain. So a fair comparison is that on 3/11 Spain suffered the equivalent of 1,600 dead and 12,000 injured. And in response to that, Spain has retreated from the war against terror. Does the US face the possibility of a Madrid mistake, especially in the weeks leading up to the November presidential election?

I had the extreme displeasure last week of hearing Professor Beau Grosscup of California State University at Chico, arguing on TV that we should “understand” the position of the terrorists, and on that basis we should “negotiate” with them. The host of the program on which this educated fool appeared missed the opportunity to ask the good professor whether we should have negotiated with Emperor Tojo, or with Der Fuhrer Adolf Hitler, because that’s exactly where his views would have led sixty years ago.

Grosscup is a “Professor of International Relations.” To have a clue about how anyone could look at modern history as he does, here is the title of his doctoral dissertation: “Isolationism and American Foreign Policy. A study of the debate over isolationist trends in US foreign policy, utilizing a Wittgensteinian scheme of explication and a comparative analysis of Chinese, Japanese, British and US foreign policies.” As Tom Lehrer once said of mathematicians, it is important to understand “how they got that way.”

The situation in Spain prior to its 3/11 bombings was that Prime Minister Jose Maria Aznar’s Popular Party was headed for a close but solid win. Mr. Aznar, who had been a staunch ally of the US and a supporter of the war on terrorism, was expected to hand the reins of government over to his hand-picked successor. Then came the attacks. Three days later the Spaniards voted out the Popular Party and handed the government over to the Socialist, Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero, who had announced in advance that he would pull Spain’s token 1,500 troops out of Iraq. It was, as many commentators have pointed out, a “clear win for the terrorists.”

What if anything does the Spanish experience suggest, as Americans approach our own election in the fall?

Terrorism is not a new phenomenon. There are various types of terrorists, but they share one common characteristic. They will murder Americans in the largest numbers they can, with the goal of forcing the US to change various of its foreign policies. (Some have “loftier” goals, which are either the destruction of America, or the destruction of Western Civilization generally.) The principal source of terrorists is Al Qaeda, plus support from some nations like Iran, the Palestinian Authority, and Syria, and apparently in cooperation with other groups like ETA, and the IRA. Because of their common intent and methods, I describe them collectively as “the terrorists.”

What is the experience of the terrorists in attacks on Americans? It’s almost universal that America can be backed off, with the blood of its own citizens and soldiers. The Beirut Airport bombing: President Reagan ordered the retreat. The Somalia slaughter: Bill Clinton ordered the retreat. The respective bombings of the Khobar Towers and the USS Cole: Bill Clinton did relatively nothing in response.

Based on experience, terrorists could take the American response to 9/11 – to fight back vigorously – as an exception to the general rule that America is a paper tiger. They could well conclude that another series of attacks, culminating with multiple events of mass murder in the weeks before our election, could produce a Madrid result in the US.

This assumption requires only two preconditions: that the American election is close, and that if John Kerry should defeat President Bush, American policy will then retreat from all-out assault on the terrorists. My personal view is that the 2004 election will not be close, and that President Bush will be reelected in an Electoral College landslide. But only a few commentators share that view. Therefore, until and unless polls close to the election should show that a landslide is in the offing, take it as true that the election will be close.

Then the question of whether the terrorists will attack again in the US with intent to change American foreign policy depends primarily on the apparent views of John Kerry, the soon-to-be Democrat candidate for President. Kerry’s mantra is “multinationalism.” But in his hands that word does not mean what the dictionary says, “involving several, or many, nations.”

The terrorists have just used mass murder to pick off Spain from the list of nations supporting the war on terror (unless NAME changes his stated position). The proposed withdrawal of Spain has taken down two of three Central American nations which follow Spain’s lead. But the war on terror still involves about 50 nations. It was, and is, multinational.

The Kerry position is explained more in his references to the United Nations. To date, to the extent that his position on this or any other subject can be pinned down, Kerry wants the US to cease being a global leader and instead to act against terrorism only if the UN first takes a decisive stand. The history of the United Nations, and of its failed predecessor the League of Nations, is almost universal in that it will not act decisively on the subject of war. The only exception is the Korean War, when the USSR quit the Security Council in a huff, China was still represented by an anti-communist government, and the resolution to go to war in Korea therefore passed.

That exception has no application today. To wait for decisive action by the UN is simply a more “nuanced” form of retreat. When, not if, the UN failed to act, the US would then begin its retreat, in a Kerry administration. We would then have our own Madrid mistake.

So, with the sad example of Spain fresh in mind, and given the current situation in the American presidential election, it’s logical to expect the terrorists to do the following: Send four or so independent teams into the US (through Canada or Mexico, take your choice). Each team would have a separate assignment with no knowledge of any of the others, except they would have a single target date for the attacks. Clearly, the terrorists have the money for the quarter-million dollar or so stake for each mission, and have the expendable men to form the attack teams.

Since 9/11, all terrorist attacks on American interests have occurred overseas. There are good reasons for that. Security on the home front is better than anywhere else in the world. Technology is better. The various federal and state police agencies are better trained and more reliable than those elsewhere in the world. American interests everywhere in the world are “soft targets” compared to targets in the US.

But if the operational goal of the terrorists is to bloody the nose of America, as it has just done with Spain, they must attack in Washington, D.C., the heart of the enemy. I don’t think such attacks, if they come, will be restricted to D.C. But the Capitol will be on the short list, with perhaps multiple teams assigned there to assure at least one “success.”

Because security is best on the home front, the terrorists are reluctant to attack here. They have lost more of their assets and personnel in (failed) attempts in the US in the past year than in their more “successful” such attacks in Iraq. The terrorists are inflicting a higher blood price when they commit their efforts elsewhere in the world, than in the US. They would have to have some promise of a Spanish result here, to commit to new and massive attacks on American soil.

What can we do, as Americans, to lower the odds that such attacks will be made here in an effort to change our foreign policies? There are only two steps to change that equation in the minds of the terrorists. One is to smoke out the position of candidate Kerry, which could be a long and laborious task as recent events demonstrate; to get him to commit to continuing the war on terrorism REGARDLESS of what the UN does or doesn’t do.

Failing that, the only other alternative is to bury candidate Kerry in the polls, so it is clear even to the terrorists that he will not possibly be elected. That way, no attacks here could possibly change American foreign policy to their benefit. The terrorists need to know, well in advance of the 2004 election, that they cannot force us to make the Madrid mistake.

To begin the process of (partially) inoculating ourselves against such attacks based on such thinking by the terrorists, this question needs to be asked of candidate Kerry at every possible opportunity, until a clear and absolute answer emerges:

“Senator Kerry, if terrorists launch multiple and major attacks in Washington, D.C. and other cities in the days or weeks leading up to the November election, what precise steps would you take as President in response to such attacks if you are elected? Please discuss Spain in your answer.”

I believe that at least some members of the press will recognize the critical nature of this subject, and will ask this question until a clear answer is obtained. Since thousands of American lives are potentially at risk, I hope the entire American press will not fail on this point. Most will. Let’s see if some leaders arises in the American press.

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About the Author: John Armor is an author and columnist on politics and history. He currently has an Exploratory Committee to run for Congress.

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©) 2004, Congressman Billybob & John Armor. All rights reserved.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; alqaeda; elections; iraq; johnkerry; kerry; northcarolina; oldnorthstate; retreat; spain; spanishelection; terrorism
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To: MeekOneGOP
I heard that interview...he was really promoting flower power....;(
61 posted on 03/17/2004 10:40:01 AM PST by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: blackie
Well said blackie!! Well said!!

BUMP for common sense!
62 posted on 03/17/2004 11:26:55 AM PST by Vets_Husband_and_Wife
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To: nopardons
You're right!

People don't realize that this is a LIFE OR DEATH situation in MORE WAYS than ONE!

We've been encouraging the "Freedom Fighters" to step up in Iran. Then John Kerry sends out his little e-mail and basically tells them "I'm backing the hardliners and will work with THEM!". (We know al Queda is in Iran!! We know Irans history on human rights! We know the situation with the IEA regarding the nuclear situation and yet we have Kerry interferring!)

He basically is telling countries working "with" and "harboring" terrorists since 9-11... "I WILL APPEASE COUNTRIES THAT SUPPORT TERRORISM AND BACK TERRORISTS, BECAUSE THIS COUNTRY DID THE WRONG THING IN STANDING UP AGAINST ALL OF YOU".

He stabbed the Freedom Fighters in Iran in the back..and worst than that.. he just signed their death certificates if he wins!

This is serious!
63 posted on 03/17/2004 11:28:41 AM PST by Vets_Husband_and_Wife
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To: Congressman Billybob
We don't need a military response to acts of terrorism, whether or not it is committed here or overseas.

Corporate American hegemony ('globalism') is doing a good job of spreading American culture to the rest of the globe and diluting/subjugating the cultures of the unreformed religions and unwashed masses.

It is the fact that they are doing their jobs so well that infuriates and compels the terrorists to lash out in the first place.

Let the terrorists self destruct. Their cultures are doomed and the West will prevail without lifting a finger.


BUMP

64 posted on 03/17/2004 11:39:32 AM PST by tm22721 (May the UN rest in peace)
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To: Vets_Husband_and_Wife
Thanks ~ just a few thoughts from an old veteran and retired truck driver. :)
65 posted on 03/17/2004 12:11:09 PM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: blackie
A veteran who "gets it"!

BTW.. thanks for your service!
66 posted on 03/17/2004 12:38:36 PM PST by Vets_Husband_and_Wife
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To: Congressman Billybob
Since 9/11, all terrorist attacks on American interests have occurred overseas.

I am not certain that I accept that as entirely accurate. I have no provable evidence to the contrary, but there have been some certain "events" that have made me curious to say the least about the containment of "terrorism" in the USA. A part of me is of course skeptical of all that is reported to us by the media.

Well, anyhow, I greatly appreciate your column here. I find you to be very clear thinking and logical. I wish that we had candidates such as you up here in Massachusetts. I certainly would vote for you, if you ran up here.

Good luck, and thank you.

67 posted on 03/17/2004 1:43:32 PM PST by Radix (The Canteen? Yeah, it is for the Troops. Do you got a problem with that?)
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To: Vets_Husband_and_Wife
An old veteran ~ I was in the Navy in the late 40's. :):)
68 posted on 03/17/2004 4:21:17 PM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: Congressman Billybob
Good column. Hope someone is listening.
69 posted on 03/17/2004 5:25:26 PM PST by Rocky
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To: Congressman Billybob
Really great article!
70 posted on 03/17/2004 5:40:11 PM PST by hershey
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To: Vets_Husband_and_Wife
That's exactly right!

For all of the one issue voters, for all of the fringers who claim that there is no difference between President Bush and Kerry, and for all of the MORE CONSERVATIVE THAN THOUERS,who refuse to look reality squarely in the face,it's time to stop pounding their breasts,talking about "the lesser of two evils" and supposed " principles" and "integrity" ............it's long past time to wake up. "Principles" and "integrity" are fine things, but neither is useful when terrorists are out there and more than ready to kill us all.

71 posted on 03/17/2004 8:07:25 PM PST by nopardons
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To: blackie
Nothing better than something that has "aged" well my FRiend! Many things come to mind! :o)

God Bless you!
72 posted on 03/18/2004 8:14:40 PM PST by Vets_Husband_and_Wife
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To: nopardons
Thanks to the rhetoric of people like Kennedy and Kerry it doesn't appear Spain will be the only "appeasers". I was sickened even further by the comments of Poland and the "misled" comments regarding WMD's.

Right after 9-11 when Kennedy and Daschle started spouting their vitriol (and showed their obvious hatred toward this President) a lot of us were alarmed by their comments and other Democrats comments regarding this President during war. It was un-precedented in the history of our nation. A dangerous precedent I might add!

I'm afraid we are starting to see the seeds of those comments bearing fruit. I'm not being dramatic when I say.. God protect us. I mean it sincerely!

So many things are coming to light. Just today we are hearing of Kofi Annan's son having a financial connection to Saddam Hussiens old Government (I believe the controversy will be the Oil for food program and PROFIT being taken!). We KNOW that France, Germany and Russia had Oil Contracts (Against UN mandates and Resolutions!). Soon after going in to Iraq we found fairly NEW weapons AFTER resolutions banning them which were sold by some of the SAME countries to Iraq, violating UN Resolutions!!

We KNOW FOR A FACT that Saddam Hussien was in VIOLATION OF UN RESOLUTION 1441. Yet you sure didn't hear Teddy Kennedy or Sen. Kerry talking much about all those violations!

NOPE.. don't BLAME Saddam Hussein for his down fall. Don't blame HIM for his demise. Don't blame HIM for al Quaeda being in IRAQ BEFORE 9-11. (ONE OF THE PILOTS WHO FLEW INTO THE WORLD TRADE CENTER "WAS" IN IRAQ PRIOR TO 9-11).

THAT'S A FACT!!

NO NO NO.. Can't do that TED KENNEDY!! CAN'T DO THAT JOHN F. KERRY!!! DON'T BLAME SADDAM!

Gotta BLAME President Bush!! BLAME AMERICA!!

And therefore.. Blame every American soldier!!

TAKE AWAY every bit of support we can get.. little by little!!

Which is EXACTLY what is happening!!

Isn't that rich???

They say they want UN help!! That we NEED to build a coalition! Yet they are decimating it with their rhetoric. And if they think they can build it back up... they are so full of crap they won't be able to get rid of it for a month of Sundays!

The COWARDS who are pulling out will simply say that they need "time" to trust us again. HOW CONVIENENT!! ALL our success will be ruined! RUINED!! But WORST is the LIVES of our troops they are endangering!!

This is EXACTLY why you NEVER speak out against a sitting President during a time of war! Why conventional wisdom has known this!

But the Democraps are so POWER hungry that they are INCAPABLE of putting the NEEDS of America before POWER!

Iraq and Afganistan weren't a disaster.. they are a huge success. Which is why the terrorists are hitting us so hard right now! They are in PANIC mode! They SAID SO IN THEIR RECENT LETTER!!

How sad that everyone is allowing this WIN to fall apart at such a vital moment.

I'm so frustrated at the IGNORANCE of the Democrats. Running for office is one thing. They could have run on the Economy, on Social Security, on other issues. Say you can continue on with our war efforts. But to do what they have done is .....

..... there is no word in the English language for it.


73 posted on 03/18/2004 8:54:28 PM PST by Vets_Husband_and_Wife
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To: Vets_Husband_and_Wife
What a rant and brilliantly put;I might add.

I'm very impressed ! You hit every point and it was grand slam home runs to the end.

Can't add a thing...won't even try; your words should stand alone.:-)

74 posted on 03/18/2004 9:34:04 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons; Vets_Husband_and_Wife
I almost got YOU TWO confused because the posted used NOPARDONS TRADEMARKED CAPITALIZED RANTING AND RAVING. Don't confuse me that way again :-)
75 posted on 03/18/2004 9:36:13 PM PST by cyborg (In die begin het God die hemel en die aarde geskape.)
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To: cyborg
LOL...but I'm really not the only one here who usues caps. :-)
76 posted on 03/18/2004 9:37:57 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Vets_Husband_and_Wife
Thanks ~ :)

God Bless you, too!
77 posted on 03/19/2004 10:28:37 AM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: Congressman Billybob
Actuzlly, for "Spain has just had its own 9/11, literally," to be meaninful, it would have to have occured on September 11.
78 posted on 03/19/2004 10:29:47 AM PST by HitmanLV (I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.)
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To: cyborg; nopardons
Been doing THAT for YEARS!! :o)

IT'S for EMPHASIS!! (I've always said there is NO SUCH thing as YELLING on a computer. (It's not only impossible it's simply illogical). LOL

BTW, .. if I have to be "confused" with anyone I'll take being confused with nopardons as a compliment. ;o)

Take care and FRegards!
79 posted on 03/19/2004 12:38:38 PM PST by Vets_Husband_and_Wife
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To: Vets_Husband_and_Wife
LOL! Glad you take it as a compliment :-)
80 posted on 03/19/2004 12:41:57 PM PST by cyborg (In die begin het God die hemel en die aarde geskape.)
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