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1 posted on 03/15/2004 10:14:08 AM PST by presidio9
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We should disarm the Spanish troops now in Iraq and send them home on the next available planes.
2 posted on 03/15/2004 10:19:14 AM PST by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo [Gallia][Germania][Arabia] Esse Delendam --- Select One or More as needed)
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While I happen to be one of those who are very unhappy with the former govt's refusal to acknowledge the obvious(it was Islamic terror), I am still outraged by the election result.
The European media thus far has really censored and muted out the view that this result was nothing more than obedience to the terrorists whims. However, a Christian Democrat(conservative) from Germany got on BBC today and said that people obeying Al Qaeda's desire for regime change was unprecedented and can not be allowed to happen again.
3 posted on 03/15/2004 10:20:11 AM PST by Betaille (The city put the country back in me)
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Whatever happened to Spanish "machismo"? COWARDS!
4 posted on 03/15/2004 10:21:58 AM PST by jaugust (Old Curmudgeon)
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The Left is about to get alot of innocent people killed.
5 posted on 03/15/2004 10:22:38 AM PST by skeeter
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But subsequent evidence of possible al Qaeda involvement — evidence mostly unverified and still under investigation — was used by the Socialists in noisy street demonstrations supported by Spain's left-wing press as proof that al Qaeda was targeting Spain ....

Damned socialists are like an embedded virus that can only come out when the host organism is sufficiently weakened.

6 posted on 03/15/2004 10:23:19 AM PST by Agnes Heep
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It could happen here in the USA.
8 posted on 03/15/2004 10:25:21 AM PST by dalebert
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The thing that made the difference to Spanish voters was the growing apprehension that al Qaeda was responsible for the attacks.

Just exchange those mantillas for burqus and get the whole thing over with.

9 posted on 03/15/2004 10:25:28 AM PST by xJones
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"We need to take the fight against terror out of America's hands. We need to get beyond the them and us, the good guys and the bad guys, and seek a genuinely collective response. Europe should seize the moment that America failed to grasp."

These people obviously do not understand that "...getting beyond them and us..." means they will subjugate themselves to terrorists demands or die.

10 posted on 03/15/2004 10:25:52 AM PST by Snardius
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"The West was warned."

Yeah, but they're not really listening. Lefties immediately framed it about "Iraq", though no Iraqis were involved, and Spain only provided peace keepers, whom most Iraqis support.

The message is about Afghanistan too, in which Spain provides support. Iran, oops, sorry, "AQ", might very well bomb again to get it's point accross to remove Spanish troops from its western border.

12 posted on 03/15/2004 10:27:32 AM PST by Shermy
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"a genuinely collective response"

Where has this guy been?

14 posted on 03/15/2004 10:28:01 AM PST by BossLady
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Terrorism works. It turned Spain into a nation of cowards.

Islam wins.

18 posted on 03/15/2004 10:30:33 AM PST by garyhope
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The leftists scream about everything. They scream that Al Qaeda WASN'T involved in Iraq and then the scream that they WERE involved in Spain. It doesn't matter what the message is. If they scream loud enough they get their way.
21 posted on 03/15/2004 10:33:01 AM PST by jwalburg (Daschle: as cold and distant as Sedna)
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"We need to take the fight against terror out of America's hands.

Good luck trying, you Euroweenies.

26 posted on 03/15/2004 10:38:18 AM PST by Defiant (Even snakes are afraid of snakes.)
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Spanish voters went to the polls to apologize for their government's actions.

The knee-jerk Spanish response to al Qaeda's Madrid bombings makes it clear that even the Europeans knew there was an Al Qaeda - Iraq connection.

Please click on this picture of Zapatero to see his swearing-in ceremony.

27 posted on 03/15/2004 10:38:18 AM PST by syriacus (Perpetual rebel Kerry, doesn't know what he wants, but knows he doesn't like the adults in charge.)
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The Spanish electorate fell for the oldest trick in the Islamist book: to describe our latest effort to combat terror (in this case, the war in Iraq) as the CAUSE of all the terror that preceded it. It is the same with the Israeli fence: this latest Israeli effort to combat terrorism is now cited as the CAUSE of all the terrorism which preceded it. It is a silly, teenage-girl way of arguing, but the Spaniards fell for it, just as much of "respectable" liberal opinion always falls for it.
28 posted on 03/15/2004 10:38:40 AM PST by Steve_Seattle ("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
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29 posted on 03/15/2004 10:39:59 AM PST by Fiddlstix (This Space Available for Rent or Lease by the Day, Week, or Month. Reasonable Rates. Inquire within.)
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...and attempt to find the common ground they have with whomever killed 200 innocent citizens and wounded 1,400 others.....

In a few days, the Spanish populace will begin to awaken and realize what they have undone. Yesterday's polling booths were filled with fear and denial, tomorrow's citizenry will begin to feel ANGER, not at the traditional default culprit, but at the perpetrators themselves.

It wouldn't surprise me to find that the ones who had the most to gain with the bombings were somehow complicit. The knapsacks were remotely detonated, no suicide bombers were employed, which points to a profound change within the enemy camp OR the more likely involvement of a secular entity.

30 posted on 03/15/2004 10:40:25 AM PST by wayoverontheright
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The problem is that the Spanish pulling from Iraq and the inaction against terrorists will essentially become an apology by pain to the terrorists for making them bomb Spain in order to get the outcome they desired. The Spanish desperately want to the ETA to be responsible because they can do something about that. Al Quaeda? Spain will just have to take it on the chin for them.
37 posted on 03/15/2004 10:45:10 AM PST by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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The Spanish socialists say that fighting terror will be their number one priority, yet they gained office by benefitting from and exploiting an act of terror. And, of course, to be consistent, they would have to say that there will be no more Islamic terrorism in Spain because the terror is only a response to American imperialism and the war in Iraq.
41 posted on 03/15/2004 10:55:16 AM PST by Steve_Seattle ("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
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With this mindset, I honestly don't understand how the Spanish ever managed to kick the Moors out of their country in the 15th century.


BUMP

43 posted on 03/15/2004 10:56:30 AM PST by tm22721 (May the UN rest in peace)
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