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Threat Matrix: Daily Terror Threat - Thread 5
CNN ^ | March 12, 2004

Posted on 03/12/2004 8:23:06 PM PST by thecabal

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- This week's deadly train bombings in Spain will not lead to a rise in the U.S. color-coded terror threat alert system, a Department of Homeland Security spokesman said Friday.

"Based on the current intelligence, we have no specific indicators that terrorist groups are considering such an attack in the U.S. in the near term," said department spokesman Brian Roehrkasse.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


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To: oceanview
I'm cableless, so all I get on tv is the network trash.

Please keep me and others in the same boat up to date with what Fox et al. are saying

thanks!
301 posted on 03/13/2004 6:33:32 PM PST by rickylc
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To: virtude; StillProud2BeFree; MamaDearest; Calpernia; JustPiper; Revel; thecabal; ...
I think Yemen is next.

I think the order is: 1)Italians (Nasyria); 2)Madrid, 3-11, and 3)Yemen. Could be wrong though.

virtude, I think that you are right.

This is a translation from Virtual Jerusalem:

The Alleged Al-Qa'ida Statement of Responsibility for the Madrid Bombings: Translation and Commentary

"We announce to the Bilal [1]bn Rabah Squad [3] that headquarters has approved [its] proposal. When the emissary arrives, the work will begin. We announce to the Abu Ali Al-Harithi Squad [4] that headquarters has decided that Yemen will be the third swamp [5] [in which] America the Tyrant of This Generation [will sink], in order to discipline the [Yemeni] government which is collaborating [with the U.S.] and that has abandoned Islam and now ranks second to [Pakistani President Pervez] Musharraf. Therefore, all the squads must be placed on alert, so that the operation will begin at 4515 S.B… [sic]. Do not forget to strike to the death; do not forget Abu Ali Al-Harithi; do not forget Sheikh Abd Al-Qader Abd Al-'Aziz (Al-Sayyed, Imam Al-Sharif), the great sage who was arrested three months after the September [11] events, and was extradited by Yemen to Egypt.

But then there is this commentary by Yigal Carmon is President of MEMRI at the end of the translated letter. Although this may not be an Al Queda letter, it is a letter from some islamic fanatical murderous terrorist group.

Commentary The text of this statement includes linguistic usages and concepts that are incompatible with or alien to authentic Al-Qa'ida writings by Osama bin Laden, Dr. Ayman Al-Zawahiri, and others. The following are some examples, in order of appearance: Following the Qur'an verses is the title "The Trains of Death Operation." This is uncommon in bin Laden's writing. Also, it is noteworthy that the phrase "Trains of Death" is not reiterated in the text as the name of the operation. "Settling old accounts," both as a linguistic form and as a concept, is alien to authentic Al-Qa'ida writings. The use of the concept of "agents" is taken from the vocabulary of nationalist ideology, while bin Laden and his followers relate to their enemies primarily as infidels. The phrase "but you did not get the message" is not one used by bin Laden, who does not cast his operations in the light of "messages," rather, as acts in and of themselves to further the goals of Al-Qa'ida for the sake of Allah. Thus, it follows that:

The concept of conditionality, as in the statement "And if you renounce [fighting us], we too will stop fighting you" is not a bin Laden concept.

The term "The Tyrant of the Generation" was used in the previous statement of alleged responsibility by the Abu Hafs Al-Masri Brigades, for the August 2003 U.S. blackout – which was caused by a large-scale technical failure. In authentic Al-Qa'ida writings, the September 11 attacks are not referred to as "events" but as "raids" (the early Islamic term ghazwah).

The announcement of an operation to begin at "4515 S.B." or reference to an operation that is "90% completed" is alien to bin Laden's scholarly Islamist style. Thus, this statement does not seem to be an authentic Al-Qa'ida document. [6]

* Yigal Carmon is President of MEMRI.

302 posted on 03/13/2004 6:36:08 PM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: All
On March 12, 2004, the pro-Saddam pro-bin Laden London daily Al-Quds Al-Arabi published the alleged statement by the Abu Hafs Al-Masri Brigades of al Qaeda, in which the brigades claimed to be responsible for the March 11, 2004, bombings in Madrid.



It should be noted that the Abu Hafs Al-Masri Brigades claimed responsibility for the August 2003 blackout in the U.S. (which was a large-scale technical failure), calling it "Operation Quick Lightning in the Land of the Tyrant of This Generation."




COMMENTARY
The text of this statement includes linguistic usages and concepts that are incompatible with or alien to authentic al Qaeda writings by Osama bin Laden, Ayman Al-Zawahiri, and others. The following are some examples, in order of appearance:

Following the Koranic verses is the title "The Trains of Death Operation." This is uncommon in bin Laden's writing. Also, it is noteworthy that the phrase "Trains of Death" is not reiterated in the text as the name of the operation.

"Settling old accounts," both as a linguistic form and as a concept, is alien to authentic al Qaeda writings.

The use of the concept of "agents" is taken from the vocabulary of nationalist ideology, while bin Laden and his followers relate to their enemies primarily as infidels.

The phrase "but you did not get the message" is not one used by bin Laden, who does not cast his operations in the light of "messages," rather, as acts in and of themselves to further the goals of al Qaeda for the sake of Allah. Thus, it follows that:

The concept of conditionality, as in the statement "And if you renounce [fighting us], we too will stop fighting you" is not a bin Laden concept.

The term "The Tyrant of the Generation" was used in the previous statement of alleged responsibility by the Abu Hafs Al-Masri Brigades, for the August 2003 U.S. blackout — which was caused by a large-scale technical failure.

In authentic al Qaeda writings, the September 11 attacks are not referred to as "events" but as "raids" (the early Islamic term ghazwah).

The announcement of an operation to begin at "4515 S.B." or reference to an operation that is "90% completed" is alien to bin Laden's scholarly Islamist style.

For these reasons, this statement does not seem to be an authentic al Qaeda document.


http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/carmon200403121251.asp
303 posted on 03/13/2004 6:37:26 PM PST by WestCoastGal ("Hire paranoids, they may have a high false alarm rate, but they discover all the plots" Rumsfeld)
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To: all4one
http://www.state.nj.us/lps/dcj/releases/2004/haynes0203.htm

(snip)

"This indictment details an alleged pattern of corporate conduct which includes illegal payments or bribes and theft by a corporation and its officers awarded contracts to provide airport security services to the Port Authority of New York/New Jersey, as well as security services to private entities including PSEG and Continental Airlines," said Director McKoy. "The indictment alleges that Haynes corporate officers offered and conferred financial benefits to individuals who were in positions to make decisions regarding the awarding and monitoring of security contracts. The Division of Criminal Justice and the Special Prosecutions Bureau will continue to investigate and prosecute those who misuse their office for personal gain and greed."

The State Grand Jury indictment charges that over a five-year period from January, 1999 through the present, Haynes Security maintained more than $12 million in contracts with the Port Authority of New York/New Jersey and Continental Airlines to provide security services at Newark/Liberty International Airport. Additionally, Haynes secured a $9-10 million per year contract to provide security services to PSEG. In obtaining the security contracts, Haynes was required to comply with various New Jersey laws and regulations, including the New Jersey Private Detective Act.

The indictment charges that the D’Agostino’s and Haynes Security violated provisions of the Private Detective Act by failing to fingerprint thousands of security personnel and failing to send the fingerprint and background records to the New Jersey State Police for review, thus allowing individuals with criminal convictions to work as security personnel at Newark/Liberty Airport and at PSEG.

(snip)
304 posted on 03/13/2004 6:40:35 PM PST by Calpernia (http://members.cox.net/classicweb/Heroes/heroes.htm)
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To: virtude
You're right.
305 posted on 03/13/2004 6:42:46 PM PST by Cindy
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To: nw_arizona_granny
Got your freep mail. Still looking at it.
306 posted on 03/13/2004 6:48:38 PM PST by Calpernia (http://members.cox.net/classicweb/Heroes/heroes.htm)
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To: Calpernia
New video found in trash can in Madrid. Call to TV station where to find it. Nothing said about what it contains.


Coco :-)
307 posted on 03/13/2004 6:50:14 PM PST by WestCoastGal ("Hire paranoids, they may have a high false alarm rate, but they discover all the plots" Rumsfeld)
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To: Letitring
Remember a while ago stories about Firestone tires and SUV blowouts?

Could this be similar? Meaning at the manufacturing level?
308 posted on 03/13/2004 6:52:40 PM PST by Calpernia (http://members.cox.net/classicweb/Heroes/heroes.htm)
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To: TexKat
Thanks.

309 posted on 03/13/2004 6:57:05 PM PST by virtude
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To: oceanview
This whole thing is really well orchestrated. AQ is certainly there, but I'm as certain that ETA is in it up to their necks also.

ETA was a facilitator, they win all the way around, don't have to claim responsibility, get a spectacular event to turn the tide against the current administration.

The printed signs and organized protests are too scripted to be spontaneous.
310 posted on 03/13/2004 6:57:19 PM PST by rickylc
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To: nw_arizona_granny
Thanks for the welcome, Granny.

I'm in Connecticut (a short distance from NYC) but have lived in New York, Brooklyn.
311 posted on 03/13/2004 7:01:48 PM PST by virtude
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To: All
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1097226/posts


"French rail bomb group issues new threat"
TimesofINDIA ^ | 03/14/04 | TimesofINDIA


Posted on 03/13/2004 6:49:39 PM PST by Pikamax


"French rail bomb group issues new threat"

AFP[ SUNDAY, MARCH 14, 2004 06:40:54 AM ]

ARTICLE SNIPPET: "PARIS: The mysterious group that calls itself AZF has issued a new threat to the French government, saying it will bomb the country's rail network unless it receives millions in ransom money, sources close to the investigation said on Saturday."
312 posted on 03/13/2004 7:02:46 PM PST by Cindy
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<< Previous | Next >>
Iraqi police in al-Kut arrest three al-Qaeda members - report
Baghdad, Mar 13 (DPA) Iraqi police in al-Kut, 170 kilometres south of Baghdad, have arrested three Iraqis who confessed to being al-Qaeda members, the local al-Sabah newspaper said today.

Al-Sabah, associated with the Coalition Provisional Authority (CPA), said Iraqi police arrested the three men Thursday.

Al-Kut police official Sabri Breisim told al-Sabah that the three Iraqis, two from Mosul and one from Amara, carried light weapons and video tapes of previous attacks on police stations and oil pipes in Mosul.

''One of then confessed he worked with the al-Qaeda network and that he coordinated with a man who is in contact with (Jordanian al-Qaeda member) Abu Masaab al-Zarqawi,'' Breisim said.

The police officer also said that one of the arrested men confirmed that al-Zarqawi was currently in Baghdad.

The newspaper also said that phone numbers belonging to former senior Baathist officials from Tikrit and Mosul were found with the men.

U S authorities are accusing al-Zarqawi of masterminding a series of attacks in Iraq. They have placed a 10 million dollar bounty on anyone who can provide information that leads to his capture or death.


313 posted on 03/13/2004 7:02:53 PM PST by WestCoastGal ("Hire paranoids, they may have a high false alarm rate, but they discover all the plots" Rumsfeld)
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To: WestCoastGal; All
Interesting...can't wait to hear what's on it.

BTW, I haven't been following the last three threads the way I did the first two. Instead of reading everything, I usually just read the last 50-100 posts when I get the chance and follow various posts backwards as they catch my attention so please forgive me if this has been discussed in detail recently.

How do recent events fit with what many expected between the end of January & the Islamic New Year? I remember posts about Daleel or someone saying that there would be an audio tape before an attack, then a video tape of Bin Laden afterwards. Have those conditions already been met with 3/11? Wasn't there an audio tape release a week or two ago, then this video claiming responsibility for Madrid? Or was that set of criteria supposed to relate to a US attack? Or did we assume it meant US when it really meant Spain?

Then there was also something about the media being notified before the "Death Blow" to US so we could watch our own distruction. This second video tape found in the trash wouldn't be that would it? (Looking for tin foil...)

Thanks everyone for keeping this thread going!
314 posted on 03/13/2004 7:03:21 PM PST by Mrs. Xtrmst (All that is necessary for evil to succeed is that good men do nothing. --Edmund Burke)
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To: WestCoastGal
ARTICLE SNIPPET:


"''One of then confessed he worked with the al-Qaeda network and that he coordinated with a man who is in contact with (Jordanian al-Qaeda member) Abu Masaab al-Zarqawi,'' Breisim said. The police officer also said that one of the arrested men confirmed that al-Zarqawi was currently in Baghdad."

315 posted on 03/13/2004 7:04:46 PM PST by Cindy
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To: WestCoastGal
Nothing said about what it contains.

Yes they have reported that it is the video tape of Al Queda taking responsibilty for the Madrid bombings. It was in a thrashcan by a mosque, and some male phoned the Spanish LE to inform them that it was there.

316 posted on 03/13/2004 7:06:09 PM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: All
anyone notice this excerpt from Seans site?

All indications continue to suggest that Osama bin Laden is NOT free to record new messages - and that his "capture" will soon be announced - with the notification of his death from ill health.

The prediction now is that he's dead?

317 posted on 03/13/2004 7:07:07 PM PST by knak
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To: All
This is a quote copy and pasted from the Who's Next thread by bogdanPolska12. It was in response to the suggestion that Poland may be the next AQ target.

Poland has raised their alert to high. If islamist try to do something I can tell you only this; we will hit them back so hard they will wish they were not born. Poland is not France we don't take a crop. And if they try to do this in USA all I can tell to muslin communities get the hell out from this country. Liberals like Kerry or Hillary or other democrats whining babies don't understand this is war! I know what I type seems harsh and maybe cold but to win war you have to face enemy and now after what happen in Madrid should be no doubt what this war is all about. Innocent Israelis are killed every day, 3000 innocent Americans perished in fire, 200 Spanish innocent just lost their lives and many more in different countries because of religion of peace. Time is coming when islam will taste their own medicine. I have no hate toward people but what goes around comes around. Either they clean their house or somebody will.

Posted by bogdanPolska12 to Freebird Forever


I've always loved the Polish!!!
318 posted on 03/13/2004 7:13:22 PM PST by rickylc
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To: Mrs. Xtrmst
Yes Muslim New Year came and went without an attack

The 3-11 event does coincide with the timing of release of audio tapes by Zawahiri et al. Things do seem to happen within weeks of those releases.

I think the video tape from Bin Laden was supposed to be after he died in the "belly of the eagle" and after the "death blow" which came from one of their tapes.

The video in the trash is the same as reported earlier, I missed that one myself. It's very hard to keep up with this when things are happening.

Who was keeping a summary for us?
319 posted on 03/13/2004 7:13:25 PM PST by WestCoastGal ("Hire paranoids, they may have a high false alarm rate, but they discover all the plots" Rumsfeld)
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To: milkncookies
"Italy will be next I believe. They began with our weakest ally, Spain.
After Italy, our strongest ally, Britain, will be their next target. Then... the U.S."

Yes, that's what it looks like.

I had thought that Italy had already been hit with 45 casualties at Nasyria (Iraq) already. But been reading the other posts from the previous threads and if I remember correctly, it was either EOM or Daleel who mentioned the USA will be attacked following Britain. So, the order you mention makes a lot of sense. But what do you make of Yemen being next that I read in a prior post? Next to whom?
320 posted on 03/13/2004 7:14:55 PM PST by virtude
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