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Kerry says Bush using gay vows as wedge
Boston.com ^ | 3/11/04 | Patrick Healy

Posted on 03/11/2004 8:41:26 AM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:11:48 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

John F. Kerry is keeping a low profile in the gay marriage debate back in Massachusetts, but he has been far from silent about the issue on the presidential campaign trail, talking about it as a way of denouncing President Bush as a divisive leader.


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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; civilunion; gays; homosexual; homosexualagenda; kerry; marriage; prisoners; samesexmarriage
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1 posted on 03/11/2004 8:41:26 AM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection; newgeezer
This is not a state issue. How can one state entitle "couples" to federal benefits and another state not.
2 posted on 03/11/2004 8:45:06 AM PST by biblewonk (I must try to answer all bible questions.)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
"This president doesn't have a record to run on, only a record to run from..."

Who's hiding their record, John Boy?

3 posted on 03/11/2004 8:46:26 AM PST by Howlin (Charter Member of the Incredible Interlocking Institutional Power!!!!)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
He who smelt it dealt it. The Leftie mayors engineered this, as did the Pink Mafia attack at the Mass. SC. This was a coordinated election year move.

However, it will work about like Elan Degenerate's comming out party did back in '96.
4 posted on 03/11/2004 8:48:26 AM PST by Dead Dog
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
I don’t think “gay” and “wedge” should be in the same headline.
5 posted on 03/11/2004 8:50:07 AM PST by tractorman
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
I've talked to many of them who didn't discover their own sexuality until they were 35, 40 years old, and it wasn't because they made a choice; it was because they found out who they were

Wow. If you're 40 and you're just figuring out what you want to sleep with, you've got bigger problems than being a Democrat. I mean, repressing desires is one thing...but not even knowing what they are?

6 posted on 03/11/2004 8:51:19 AM PST by prion
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
"Letting the states handle it themselves" might involve voting on referendums. It might involve State Legislatures. It might involve amending state constituitons.

What MA did was find 4 judges who ordered a fundamental change in the building block of civilized society. Not much state involvement there.

What with Full Faith and Credit, it's difficult to have this mean different things in different states. So a Constitutional Amendment, in which three-fourths of the States must OK it, and all the states would have some invovlements seems to fit what Kerry is asking for.

7 posted on 03/11/2004 8:53:51 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (You can see it coming like a train on a track.)
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To: little jeremiah
Ping


What We Can Do To Help Defeat the "Gay" Agenda


Homosexual Agenda: Categorical Index of Links (Version 1.1)


The Stamp of Normality

8 posted on 03/11/2004 8:54:20 AM PST by EdReform (Support Free Republic - All donations are greatly appreciated. Thank you for your support!)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Oh, its a wedge issue alright. A wedge right in between the 30% liberal whackjobs and the 70% rest of the population. But of course, this is just Bush trying to "appease his base" ... LOL!
9 posted on 03/11/2004 8:54:34 AM PST by The G Man (John Kerry? America just can't afford a 9/10 President in a 9/11 world. Vote Bush-Cheney '04.)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
This is absolutely hilarious!!!

Who started the present gay marriage controversy? President Bush, or the mayor of San Francisco?

President Bush doesn't have to use it--all he did was say where HE stood on it, which he did. And frankly, the country isn't all that divided.

Once more, Kerry makes himself look foolish.
10 posted on 03/11/2004 8:56:00 AM PST by Judith Anne (Is life a paradox? Well, yes and no...)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Kerry is the one with the hateful rhetoric and not one to talk of dividing. Nothing decent comes from Kerry.
11 posted on 03/11/2004 8:56:00 AM PST by bushfamfan
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To: biblewonk
A year from now, the broken democrat party will be wondering how it all went so wrong. After they lose by landslides nationwide, they'll have to accept the truth that they allowed the Pink Mafia, the race baiters and George Soros to hijack their party and steer it directly into the ground in a fireball.

Keep it up, Kerry. Keep it up.
12 posted on 03/11/2004 8:57:35 AM PST by moodyskeptic (weekend warrior in the culture war)
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To: All; Tumbleweed_Connection
Kerry is lying. He has a 100% rating from the human rights campaign. They demand homosexual marriage.

Kerry has supported homosexual marriage in the past.


Kerry also supports FEDERALIZING HOMOSEXUAL UNIONS. Doe we want to use social security to fund RECREATIONAL SEXUAL FETISHES?
Kerry is a card carrying member of the New England Liberal fringe!

IN HIS OWN WORDS::::

A Record of Working on Behalf of Gay and Lesbian Americans

With a 100% rating from the Human Rights Campaign since 1995, John Kerry is a powerful voice in the ongoing fight for civil rights for gay and lesbian Americans.

Priorities

Preventing Hate Crimes
John Kerry is an original cosponsor of the Hate Crimes Prevention bill, which would extend federal jurisdiction over serious, violent hate crimes. These would include crimes motivated by sexual orientation. Hate crimes rose a disturbing 3.5% from 1999 to 2000.

Ending Discrimination
One of John Kerry’s first acts as a U.S. Senator, in 1985, was to introduce a bill prohibiting discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation.  He supports passage of the Employment Non-Discrimination Act, and has adopted a nondiscrimination policy for his Congressional offices based on sexual orientation and gender identity.

HIV/AIDS Funding
John Kerry cosponsored the first Ryan White Comprehensive AIDS Resources Emergency Act (CARE) - which represents the largest discretionary federal investment in treating individuals with HIV and AIDS.  Kerry also sponsored the Vaccines for the New Millennium Act, aimed at boosting contributions to the International AIDS Vaccine Initiative, a non-profit group working to promote development of an HIV vaccine in 2000.  Kerry introduced the U.S. Leadership Against HIV/AIDS, TB, and Malaria Act, which would increase the U.S. government’s funding of international HIV/AIDS efforts from approximately $1.7 billion in 2003 to $1.9 billion in 2004. This effort led to the unanimous passage in May 2003 the United States Leadership Against HIV/AIDS, TB, and Malaria Act of 2003. AIDS activists characterized Kerry as one of Congress’s top leaders on HIV/AIDS policy.

Protecting Gay and Lesbian Families
John Kerry believes that same-sex couples should be granted rights, including access to pensions, health insurance, family medical leave, bereavement leave, hospital visitation, survivor benefits, and other basic legal protections that all families and children need.  He has supported legislation to provide domestic partners of federal employees the benefits available to spouses of federal employees.  He was one of 14 Senators -- and the only one up for reelection in 1996 -- to oppose the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA).

Lifting the Ban on Gays in the Military
John Kerry opposed the Clinton Administration’s “Don’t Ask Don’t Tell Policy”  He was one of a few senators to testify before the Senate Armed Services Committee and call on the President to rescind the ban on gay and lesbian service members.

Support for Civil Unions
John Kerry supports same-sex civil unions so that gay couples can benefit from the health benefits, inheritance rights, or Social Security survivor benefits guaranteed for heterosexual couples.

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13 posted on 03/11/2004 8:59:23 AM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
This president doesn't have a record to run on, only a record to run from, so his campaign has already resorted to their old tricks -- attack ads and wedge politics,"

Kerry sounds like he has a brain wedgie.

14 posted on 03/11/2004 8:59:33 AM PST by fml ( You can twist perception, reality won't budge. -RUSH)
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To: longtermmemmory
Bush is not the culture warrior here. He didn't start the gay marriage debacle. HE is not creating an issue. This was all done by the radical gay lobby. These people need a clue about who is doing what here. Lousy lying liberals.

miserable failure miserable failure miserable failure miserable failure war criminal

15 posted on 03/11/2004 9:01:01 AM PST by Fun Bob
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To: longtermmemmory
Bush is not the culture warrior here. He didn't start the gay marriage debacle. HE is not creating an issue. This was all done by the radical gay lobby. These people need a clue about who is doing what here. Lousy lying liberals.

miserable failure miserable failure miserable failure miserable failure war criminal

16 posted on 03/11/2004 9:01:21 AM PST by Fun Bob
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To: longtermmemmory
Bush is not the culture warrior here. He didn't start the gay marriage debacle. HE is not creating an issue. This was all done by the radical gay lobby. These people need a clue about who is doing what here. Lousy lying liberals.

miserable failure miserable failure miserable failure miserable failure war criminal

17 posted on 03/11/2004 9:01:26 AM PST by Fun Bob
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To: moodyskeptic
Democrat Party Members = Homosexuals.

Bet the teamsters are excited about that one.
18 posted on 03/11/2004 9:02:51 AM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: biblewonk
Name the state whose legislature approved such a thing anyway. The state argument is sooooo phony, but the media simply will not call them on it. No, in fact, they will use that false rhetoric themselves. Who needs reality when you can create your own perception.
19 posted on 03/11/2004 9:05:06 AM PST by King Black Robe (With freedom of religion and speech now abridged, it is time to go after the press.)
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To: biblewonk
This is not a state issue. How can one state entitle "couples" to federal benefits and another state not.

On the one hand, citizens continue to be free to move to whichever state best suits their chosen lifestyle.

Unfortunately, there's Article IV, Section I, where each state has to recognize the public acts, records, etc. of the others. I think that's what Congress was trying to solve with the Federal Marriage Act (or whatever the current law is called).

Regardless, any such "Federal benefits" you have in mind, e.g. Social Security benefits, are likely unconstitutional. That's the real problem coming back to bite us on the backside. If this nation hadn't strayed so freakin' far from what was intended, "Federal benefits" wouldn't be an issue.

20 posted on 03/11/2004 9:06:11 AM PST by newgeezer (fundamentalist, regarding the Constitution AND the Holy Bible, i.e. words mean things!)
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