Poll: What do you think of President Bush's campaign ad using images from 9.11 terrorist attacks?

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[drq]

Poll: What do you think of President Bush's campaign ad using images from 9.11 terrorist attacks?

Link to poll HERE

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He heard the WP has an article about the 9/11 Families Group called "Peaceful Tomorrows" will hold press conf today at ground zero

Check out this information, originally researched and posted by DeBug=int13, about “Peaceful Tomorrows” (it should have its own thread, really):

The real name of the outfit is September 11th Families for Peaceful Tomorrows

 

And from all appearances it is a fund-raising front for the Tides Center (EIN 94-3213100) of San Francisco - and "Peaceful Tomorrows" doesn't try to hide that they are affiliated on their contribute page. I know some Freepers are familiar with the Tides Center, and for those who are not, it is a non-profit organization that rakes in fairly big bucks ($63+ mill in FY 2002, which included $5+ mill in Government grants) to distribute out grants and allocations to various and sundry "social" projects and causes, with left-wing groups getting decent cuts of the action - they consistently lay out a good bit of change to anti-second amendment groups, for instance. September 11th Families for Peaceful Tomorrows doesn't appear to be necessarily autonomous from the Tides Center. Interestingly, the P.O. box listed on the "Peaceful Tomorrows" site shares the same location address and zip in the neighborhood with such notable organizations as The New Formulation: an Anti-Authoritarian Review of Books (a biannual journal examining the value of recent publications to the development of contemporary anarchist theory and politics), Institute for Anarchist Studies, Radical Magick (an "Eclectic Ceremonial Based Magick Group"), South Asian AIDS Action, Lesbian and Gay Labor Network, Dyke Action Machine! or DAM! - not that there's anything wrong with that (in Jerry Seinfeld voice). The Fellowship of Reconciliation website that is also mentioned on "Peaceful Tomorrows" contribute page says it all - offices in Wash. DC and also San Francisco.

 

Though they may splash New York this and New York that all around, "Peaceful Tomorrows" is created and based in Oakland California, founded and directed by Barry Amundson and sister-in-law Kelly Campbell, with the web technical matters being handled by Steve Simitzis of Saturn5 Productions in San Francisco, which has an apparent mission statement of providing web consulting and "hosting for artists, online communities, activist organizations"

 

Amundson is Designer and IT manager for the San Francisco branch of Fenton Communications, a "public interest communications" company that has offices in Washington DC, New York NY and San Francisco.

 

They have a rather interesting list of clientele that include -

 

MoveOn.org
People For the American Way
Nelson Mandela - Presidential Election
Greenpeace
Ben and Jerry's

Rock the Vote (which is also a "top five" paid contractor for the Tides Center)

 

Can probe here for the whole listing.

 

 

 

 

 

Here's a bit from lengthy LA Times article about what they do and the crowd they hang with - I think the Moderators won't have a cow over this excerpt -

 

October 1, 2002
Operation: Peace
Antiwar movement reflects a different America than in past eras, but diverse allies keep the spirit alive.
By REED JOHNSON, TIMES STAFF WRITER

 

"We want to poison your mind," teases the woman with slate-colored hair outside First Baptist Church in Koreatown. Swathed in natural fibers and sporting an anti-Dubya button, she's minding a table piled high with books, pamphlets and stickers decrying the sorry state of the planet--wars, corporate malfeasance, environmental disasters-in-the-making, and so on--along with half a dozen copies of the revolutionary rabble-rousings of Chairman Mao.

 

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But the rally's emotional climax occurred when Kelly Campbell and Barry Amundson, members of September Eleventh Families for Peaceful Tomorrows, a group composed of relatives of 9/11 victims, embraced beneath a giant video screen where images of the burning twin towers had flashed by moments earlier. Barry Amundson, 32, is the brother of Craig Amundson, a 28-year-old Army multimedia specialist who was killed when the hijacked American Airlines Flight 77 crashed into the Pentagon; Campbell is his sister-in-law. Both were in Los Angeles to voice their conviction that the response to last year's attacks on New York and Washington shouldn't be more mangled bodies and grieving relatives.

 

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And over at Indymedia -

 

9/10 Event in L.A. Features Peaceful Tomorrows
The Nation | 08.09.2002 20:19

 

"starring" Tom Hayden, Robert Scheer, Alfre Woodard, Ramona Ripston, Medea Benjamin, Maria Elena Durazo, Rev. George Regas and Rabbi Allen Freehling.

 

(Interesting links on that page)

 

 

 

 

 

 

Socialist birds of a feather flocking together........

[kitkat]

***What do you think of Kerry using Vietnam war dead as a campaign ad?

Much better question***

EXCELLENT thought.

[Howlin]

http://gallery.johnkerry.com/gallery/iaff

[BJungNan]

Good job putting this one up! bttt

- Inappropriate and insensitive to the surviving family of 9/11 victims (17.1%)
- Appropriate for an election about public policy and the war on terror (80.9%)

[BJungNan]

There is an FR link to a WSJ Opinion Journal article I am trying to find. Can someone get me the link to the FR thread please?

I am after the editorial the WSJ wrote in defense of Bush ads. Thanks

[Fiddlstix]

What do you think of President Bush’s campaign ad using images from the 9/11 terrorist attacks?
	Inappropriate and insensitive to the surviving family of 9/11 victims (16.3%)
	Appropriate for an election about public policy and the war on terror (81.7%)
	Not sure (1.9%)
Total Votes: 23392

[rbmillerjr]

Let's super Bump

[RogerWilko]

Uhoh... The DUmmies are going to tattle:

Straight from DUmmy Land:

18. The poll is freepable... I just tested it by voting twice (and only twice). Do you have a link to the FreeRepublic thread? I'm going to contact the RR webmaster and tell him his poll is being freeped...

[RogerWilko]

The DUmmies must be hitting it hard from the other side... It's down to 78.3% approval now. Get back out there!

[Lucky2]

Just saw Eric Burns (of Fox News Watch fame) on FNC say that these ads are the most tasteful and benign ads he's seen thus far on the 2004 Election campaign. He was the third person in the media that I have heard reference these ads to Reagan's "Morning In America" ads that ran at the RNC convention in 1984.

There is absolutly nothing wrong with these ads. The Rats are screaming because they know that they can't use them for themselves. They are to blame for 9/11 and they know it and it's a taint on the entire rat party.

[swarthyguy]

BUMP'ed.

What a brouhaha over what, 2 seconds of WTC video?

Would they had the same reaction if a Pentagon image had been used instead.

[BigSkyFreeper]

Yeah, Rummy would have had a vein in his temple bulging out big enough to tow a car with, afterall, he was there that morning! /sarcasm

[Vic3O3]

Done!

[drq]

..one.... more.....time....

[JohnHuang2]

Coming up, bro.

[JohnHuang2]

[kingu]

They must fear your Mega-Pings - the poll has been closed down.

Final results:

Inappropriate and insensitive to the surviving family of 9/11 victims
(29.8%)

Appropriate for an election about public policy and the war on terror
(62.8%)

Not sure
(7.4%)

[kingu]

??? The totals are changing, though I don't see where a link is that allows you to vote... ???

[WOSG]

A great post!!

Tides Center?

Any connection to the Tides foundation Theresa Heinz Kerry funds?

[WOSG]

Yes, it should have its own thread on this info... very good for background info. I am sure these lefties will pop their heads up again.