CDC Vaccine Data Leads Scientists to Shocking Discovery, Possible Vaccine/Mercury/Autism Link

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[Coleus]

CDC Vaccine Data Leads Scientists to Shocking Discovery
Monday February 9, 9:20 am ET

CHILDREN 27-TIMES MORE LIKELY TO DEVELOP AUTISM WITH EXPOSURE TO MERCURY- CONTAINING VACCINES, FINDINGS REVIEWED AT TODAY'S IOM MEETING IN DC

WASHINGTON, Feb. 9 /PRNewswire/ -- Today, the Institute of Medicine will hold a one-day meeting to review important new research on the link between thimerosal, a mercury-based preservative in vaccines, and neurodevelopmental disorders such as autism. One of the larger studies under review comes from the CDC's own Vaccine Safety Datalink. Under independent investigation, CDC's data concludes children are 27-times more likely to develop autism after exposure to three thimerosal-containing vaccines (TCVs), than those who receive thimerosal-free versions.

The findings are not only disturbing to government officials like U.S. Rep. Dave Weldon, M.D. (R-FL), who is also scheduled to speak before the IOM panel, they suggest autism via TCVs has a higher relative risk than that between lung cancer and smoking, which according to the American Cancer Society is only 22 for men and 11 for women. "This absolutely confirms what parents have been saying for years," says Jo Pike, President, National Autism Association. Like Pike, thousands of parents have reported sharp regressions in their children following a TCV and many of those children have gone on to receive a label of autism. An easy mistake to make since the symptoms of autism and mercury poisoning are almost identical.

Dr. Mark Geier is the lead investigator in the discovery. A medical doctor with a Ph.D. in genetics, he, along with fellow researcher, David Geier, will discuss their findings of the CDC data in front of an IOM panel. Among a host of other physicians and researchers presenting will be Dr. Jeff Bradstreet. He will discuss the results from his peer-reviewed study which concluded that urinary mercury concentrations were six times higher in children with autism vs. normal-age/vaccine-matched controls.

The presentations will begin at 8:00 AM at The National Academy of Sciences, Auditorium 2100 C Street NW. Dr. Mark Geier and David Geier are scheduled to present their findings at 12:15 PM. Weldon speaks at 8:00. Bradstreet at 4:00. For an agenda, go to: http://www.iom.edu/event.asp?id=17047. For information about the National Autism Association, go to www.nationalautism.org.

[Born Conservative]

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[agsloss]

My son was diagnosed with autism at age 2.5, in 1998. The MMR shot was at 18 months. Thimerosal was supposed to be removed "voluntarily" by the manufacturers, but remains in the shots.

An autism advocacy group was lurking in a doctors-only website and discovered that many doctors are being offered and are purchasing old stock of thimerosal-containing vaccines in order to increase profits. If you are going to get your child vaccinated (and I think there is very little evidence of the efficacy of vaccines), demand to look at the bottle.

By the way, I'm an attorney who used to defend product liability suits, and would therefore be skeptical of this issue if I hadn't had my own case study of two kids.

[BossLady]

Another good site for vaccine info:

http://www.whale.to/vaccines.html

[Sabertooth]

An autism advocacy group was lurking in a doctors-only website and discovered that many doctors are being offered and are purchasing old stock of thimerosal-containing vaccines in order to increase profits.

What was the name of the autism advocacy group?

What was the name of the doctors-only website?

What companies were offering old thimerosil vaccines?

Do you have any links or saved pages to verify any of this?

[brothers4thID]

I was not vaccinated for chickenpox or measles or rubella- because I developed all three before the age of 1 year. I have suffered lasting health problems because of these diseases.

Now which is it: the MMR vaccine causes autism or the thiermosol causes autism? Because theirmosol is a perservative AND NOT USED IN LIVE VACCINES like the MMR.

Vaccines can and will cause fatal or life damaging reactions in small percentage of infants. However, the risks of not vaccinating far outweigh the risks of complications in my opinion.

[js1138]

I have close relative who died from childhood diseases, an aunt who spent her long life institutionalized due to brain damage from measels, ad a high school friend who was rendered sterile from mumps. Regardless of your personal experience, the statistics favor immunization.

I suspect if your child had been killed by an automobile, you would not come on a conservative site and argue for the abolition of automobiles.

I am being harsh in my statements because I believe the cause you advocate will actually hurt people.

[pwatson]

There is no Scientific Study to cost justify the 1/150 children who come down with Autism vs. the cost of deaths and treatments prior to the 1980's and the massive vaccine program in the USA. What is the cost of Autism today vs the cost of Illnesses prior to the Vaccine programs? We do know that prior to the vaccine program there were only 1 in 10000 kids with Autism. How many kids actually died from outbreaks or came down with damage prior to vaccines vs. the cost of Autism today? Answer there is no objective analysis. No study’s are done because we all know Vaccines are safe and can not be causing this. Same thing as Tobacco products and Lung Cancer in the 1950's vs. Today. Professor Paul Shattock in England http://osiris.sunderland.ac.uk/autism/ did statically analysis of Autism rates back when Vaccines were broken up into separate shots and given much later when kids were 5 to 7 years old instead of at birth to 18 months and found out all the modern rates of Autism and other related illness went down to zero back under the old methods of vaccines.
Could it simply be that some baby’s have an under-developed immune system that does not respond properly to vaccines at 1 to 18 months but if you wait until they are all 5 years old the problems go away? Actually it looks that way. The English government responded by making it illegal to give separate MMR shots, you must use the combo shot.

[aimhigh]

Regardless of your personal experience, the statistics favor immunization.

Most are not arguing against immunization. We're arguing against giving kids a dose of mercury. Some immunizations, such as the hepetitus (sp) vaccines are purely money makers with no real need for them.

[agsloss]

I'd rather be sterile than autistic. Autism IS brain damage, so what's the difference with measles?

[js1138]

From my link:

"One thing nearly everyone in the field agrees on: genetic predisposition. Identical twins share the disorder 9 times out of 10."

[js1138]

So why is the incidence climbing, mostly among the brightest and most highly educated people in Southern California, even though the vaccines have been fixed?

[aimhigh]

Good point. We need to find out what they replace the mercury with.

[AuntB]

_Jim said:I don't think anything conclusive is being shown here

I didn't imply it was.

[Sender]

I have a question for those of you that seem to know a lot first-hand about this issue. The very idea of a "mercury-based preservative" sounds absurd. Why on Earth would anything containing mercury compounds be required to preserve vaccine for injection? Surely there are preservatives less likely to be harmful? I eat sandwiches out of a machine that are preserved for eons but they don't contain mercury.

[js1138]

Good point. We need to find out what they replace the mercury with.

No doubt extract of identical twin.

[Born Conservative]

Lethal injections should be for criminals only.

Implying that childhood vaccines are lethal injections is totally absurd.

[oceanview]

I believe you should be referring to Silicon Valley, that's where it is rampant (I've read). I've read that one factor they are exploring is that technical people (engineers) may have some component of this in their genetic makeup, and that in a geographic areas where they inter-marry, the genetic trend is highly prevalent in their children.

[ahayes]

Indeed. I found a journal article (one thing I enjoy about higher education is the great access to hundreds of journals online) in the January 2004 issue of Child: Care, Health and Development that tells about a Danish study of the number of children diagnosed with autism between 1971 and 2000--almost 1000 in all. They said the rate was flat up until 1990 and then began to increase in spite of the removal of thimerosal from vaccines (which means even children who never received a vaccine containing thimerosal had an increased chance of becoming autistic). I think something environmental is going on, but it isn't thimerosal.

[stanz]

He's got graduate degrees up the yazoo. I've attended some of his seminars and everything he says seems to make sense to me, too.

It's next to impossible to arrange for private advisement sessions. He reserves those for severely ill patients, but I did follow his detox protocols very closely at one time. I have since given up on some of the very stringent dietary rules, but have managed to stay away from meat and dairy. Now if I could only kick sugar and get to the gym 5 times a week!

Thanks for the website, I'll check it out. It's shame I didn't know about the dangers concerning vaccines when my daughter was a child. I think I might have thought twice about some of those innoculations.

[elk]

I applaud you for doing something positive (founding the ASCC group) out of such a difficult circumstance. I, for one, will not be attacking you, rather, I thank you, from the bottom of my heart.

I think the bottom line issue is one of freedom. Parents should have the freedom to make decisions affecting their children, particularly about vaccines. I am very concerned about mandatory incursions into parental authority, such as compulsory vaccinations and compulsory ages of school attendance - government control, anyone (I'm not talking about child abuse, against which there are laws on the books)? Especially in light of the "assumptions" made by people/authorities/doctors that no one will allow to be questioned, and what I've observed in pediatricians.

I refuse to set aside my intellect, duty, logic, and common sense when dealing with the vaccine issue, as the pediatricians/politicians demand that I do. The list of my concerns about vaccines is long, and no doctor I know has cogently addressed my straightforward questions -- instead, making ad hominem arguments, which strike me as bizzare -- and I'm talking about big-city, affluent-area doctors. I am not an ignorant, selfish, uneducated parent who cares not for my children, but from what the doctors tell me, I must sacrifice my children on the altar of world disease eradication whether or not I think the risks of the vaccines are warranted (I'm not making this up; I especially like the "you are selfish to take advantage of the herd immunity" argument").

Bottom line: I'm concerned about the day they may deem the refusal to vaccinate to be neglect -- despite the evidence that there are very real concerns about vaccines.

What about this hypothetical: you have a child who has developmental disabilities, food sensitivities, eczema, and missed the MMR due to a cold (at the least the doctors got that right) -- who should decide whether that child should be subjected to the risk of being pushed off the autistic cliff by the MMR? Especially since the mantra that is repeated is "well, the parents didn't really have a 'normal' child, rather the MMR had nothing to do with the autism and it's their vain hope to try to pin the autism on MMR, it's just a coincidence." I would be curious about folks' response to that hypothetical.