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L.A. Officers Kill Suspect as Viewers Watch on TV
TvSpy Shoptalk ^ | 2-25-2004 | Richard Winton and Kevin Pang

Posted on 02/25/2004 7:22:34 AM PST by Hillary's Lovely Legs

Los Angeles police shot and killed a robbery suspect on live TV at the end of a 90-minute car chase early Monday, firing into a rear windshield as the driver slowly backed his car toward officers in front of Santa Monica High School.

Nicholas Hans Killinger, 23, of Malibu died an hour after three Los Angeles police officers, "fearing for their lives," fired into the back window of his Ford Tempo, said Lt. Art Miller.

"The suspect could have ended this situation at any time," said Miller. "But instead he chose to reverse his car into the officers." The officers, not yet identified, are from the Hollywood and Rampart divisions.

Killinger's family, including some who saw the 5:54 a.m. shooting on TV as it happened, questioned the deadly police response. Five local TV stations aired the chase and shooting.

"Why did they have to shoot him so many times?" asked Emma Jean Killinger, the man's aunt. Killinger lived with her family in Malibu for the last three or four months, she said.

"I was shocked," she said, "because he was supposed to come home last night."

Los Angeles Police Chief William J. Bratton pledged that his investigators will review the shooting "with a fine-tooth comb" to determine whether it conformed to department guidelines. Police can use deadly force to protect themselves or others "from immediate threat of death or serious bodily harm."

Bratton has been seeking to restrict the LAPD's deadly force guidelines that now allow officers to shoot at vehicles that pose a threat. Other departments have banned the practice, citing the danger to innocent bystanders.

LAPD policy states that shooting "at or from a moving vehicle is generally prohibited," except as a last resort.

"We are going to modify the existing policy," Bratton said. Any such change of policy requires Police Commission approval.

The Los Angeles district attorney's office and the Santa Monica Police Department are investigating the incident, which began at an Agoura Hills gas station about 4:30 a.m.

Killinger, armed with a knife, is suspected of tying up the gas station attendant and stealing $180 from the register, authorities said. Killinger was convicted in 2003 for assault with a deadly weapon, court records show.

Los Angeles County sheriff's deputies were alerted, and they spotted Killinger driving east on the Ventura Freeway through Sherman Oaks.

The chase was taken over by the California Highway Patrol. When Killinger left the freeway in Hollywood, LAPD officers took over the pursuit.

For more than an hour, Killinger sped through side streets and drove on the wrong side of the road.

"Along the way he threw out the money," Miller said. At one point, the pursuit raced through the pedestrian portion of Santa Monica's Third Street Promenade.

Killinger was driving east on Pico Boulevard, then tried to make a U-turn on 6th Street, according to the videotaped broadcast. He could not complete the U-turn and began rolling backward, toward two LAPD patrol cars that had stopped behind him.

Three officers stood alongside their patrol cars and fired about 11 rounds into the rear window of Killinger's car as it began moving in reverse.

Killinger's car bumped the front of one patrol car and the driver's side door flung open. Bullets could be seen hitting the car near the opening. Killinger fell face down out of the driver's side door.

Lt. Miller said the officers told investigators they were in fear for their lives and they believed the suspect was a danger to the public.

Monday's shooting revisited a long-standing debate on the live broadcast of police pursuits. In April 1998, local TV stations drew criticism for broadcasting a man as he shot himself on a Century Freeway overpass.

KTLA Channel 5 news director Jeff Wald said the station now has a policy of switching to a wide angle shot if the helicopter pilots anticipate a pursuit is about to end. The station broadcast Monday's shooting because "I'm sure they didn't know … what was going on at the time."

KABC-TV's news helicopter was hovering above the passenger side of the suspect's vehicle and puffs of smoke could be seen as officers fired their weapons. When the suspect was hit, their camera began zooming out.

"The minute the suspect started to put himself in an aggressive position, our chopper pilot told his cameraman to pull out," said KABC news director Cheryl Fair. "We're very conscious of the potential and try as best we can to handle this situation in a sensitive fashion. But it is live television."

KNBC-TV news director Bob Long said his station will not replay the shooting again and will only display a still picture. "There's no reason to show it," Long said.


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To: coloradan
Spare us the cophating crap. The guy was a crook, endangered other's lives, and then threatened the cops with a car, which IS a deadly weapon.

From the article: "For more than an hour, Killinger sped through side streets and drove on the wrong side of the road."

6am, with kids soon to be walking to school, sorry, but to let him out again and back on the road was too risky. If you run from the cops, you take your life in your own hands. End of story.

If anything the cops waited too long to shoot him.
81 posted on 02/25/2004 2:05:12 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: AnAmericanMother
Oh, man, you have a heck of a job.
Since I'm a BSA Venture Adviser, I've taken all the First Aid/Lifesaving/CPR courses and Wilderness Medicine is coming up this March. I hope I've learned enough to keep the lid on until you guys can get there and work your magic . . . I've certainly learned enough to appreciate all you do.

Thanks. It's one of those 'the worst job you'll ever love.' The Red Cross and Wilderness training is a good start.

At least I know I won't seize up or freak out. . . training is a wonderful thing, you just go on autopilot.

That's exactly right. The best advice for a first aid emergency is don't panic and go with you first instinct of training - don't hesitate and second guess yourself and you'll do fine.

82 posted on 02/25/2004 3:36:40 PM PST by Ophiucus
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To: coloradan
Just an idea. But don't hold up someone at knifepoint. Don't commit a robbery. Don't get into a car chase by running from the police. Don't try and back into the cops to get away. Don't get your sorry ass shot dead.

Like I said, it's just an idea.
83 posted on 02/25/2004 3:43:41 PM PST by bootyist-monk (5, 4, 3, 2, 1! Thunderbirds are go!)
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
Killinger was driving east on Pico Boulevard, then tried to make a U-turn on 6th Street, according to the videotaped broadcast. He could not complete the U-turn and began rolling backward, toward two LAPD patrol cars that had stopped behind him.

Three officers stood alongside their patrol cars and fired about 11 rounds into the rear window of Killinger's car as it began moving in reverse.

Killinger's car bumped the front of one patrol car and the driver's side door flung open. Bullets could be seen hitting the car near the opening. Killinger fell face down out of the driver's side door.

I saw all of this on FOX news the other morning; they covered it non-stop.....my remark at the time was that FOX news covers this "non-event" continuously, but failed to cover much, at all, of the nonstop fires in California, which injured and killed many people and burned thousands of acres and hundreds of homes......

Everything stated above is accurate as to what I saw, except, I didn't see officers shooting at him, nor did I see any discharge.....of course, you couldn't hear anything, as FOX wasn't playing the sound until it was over.....(then they just had a policeman saying the suspect had been caught, etc., no mention of shots fired, that I heard). The suspect did back up into the police cars, however....so, I'm not that surprise they shot him.

84 posted on 02/25/2004 3:53:49 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: coloradan
I'm not shedding a tear for the loss of the perp, but I am concerned about the precedent set. Suppose a cop pulls someone over for speeding, and after pulling over, the driver, nervously, puts the car in reverse instead of neutral for a split second, which means the reverse lights come on and the cop, behind, sees this. Should this become a textbook deadly force situation?

Not quite similar. One situation is where the suspect already led the police on a high speed chase escaping from a crime - a dangerous situation with high threat. Your situation is where a routine traffic stop occurs, the car pulls over after being signaled to do so - a much less dangerous situation with little threat.

In your case, which actually happens, the cop tries not to laugh while saying 'sir, please put your car in park and turn off the engine.' The driver does it - and no problem.

85 posted on 02/25/2004 3:54:59 PM PST by Ophiucus
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To: nicmarlo
sorry it's all in italics.....that wasn't an oops (I must have hit a wrong letter).....preview, preview, preview! : )
86 posted on 02/25/2004 3:56:13 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: null and void
bttt
87 posted on 02/25/2004 3:56:42 PM PST by lodwick (Wake up, America!)
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To: hchutch
Did I miss any?

A possible one for your list:
Always follow the cop's orders - especially when he has his hand on his gun.

In other words, 'lie down' means 'eat pavement NOW, dumbass.'

88 posted on 02/25/2004 3:59:24 PM PST by Ophiucus
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Sounded like suicide to me. He backed up right into the bullets.
89 posted on 02/25/2004 4:40:21 PM PST by NormalGuy (If not Normal, Spin it)
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