Posted on 02/24/2004 11:08:39 AM PST by woofie
A 35-year-old man is charged with child prostitution and kidnapping after his 15-year-old daughter told police he sold her for crack.
The man was arrested Saturday after the girl's mother reported the kidnapping to police. The Journal is withholding his name to protect the teen's privacy.
Police on Monday called the crime "despicable" and "heinous."
"It's a horrible thing that any parent would even consider putting their children in a position such as this," Albuquerque Police spokesman Jeff Arbogast said.
The girl told police she was walking home from a friend's house late Thursday when a car and a truck pulled up behind her. First her father got out of the truck, hugged her and said, "I love you." A large man then got out of the car and grabbed her.
"She tried to break free from the male by scratching and kicking him, but she was not able to get away," a criminal complaint filed in Metropolitan Court states.
They put her in the back of the car, and she said she saw her father walk up to a "skinny" man, who handed him a small packet.
"My daddy sold me for crack" the teen told police. The two men then drove off with her in the back, leaving her father. She told police she tried the doors but couldn't unlock them. She also tried to call her mother by cell phone, but one of the men took her phone.
They drove her to a parking lot, where she said she was sexually assaulted by both men.
"She tried to get away from both males, but in order to control her they would hit her in the face and head," the complaint reads.
At one point, she was knocked unconscious. When she woke up, she was lying behind a garbage bin with her shirt off and jacket torn, the complaint reads. Still dazed, she walked toward her home where she made contact with a neighbor, who got in touch with the teen's mother. Her mother called police.
The girl, whose face was swollen, agreed to a medical exam. Investigators noted the word "bitch" was written on both of her arms. The complaint did not give further details.
Police spokesman Arbogast said Monday that detectives had worked through the weekend on the case and were following any leads that might identify the two men.
He said he'd known of many cases in which parents had acted irresponsibly toward their children. But this one, he said, is particularly appalling "with not only the physical damage that they exposed their child to, (but) the psychological impact that something like this would have for years to come, if not their entire life."
The girl's father is charged with sexual exploitation of children by prostitution, kidnapping and conspiracy to commit kidnapping.
He remained in the Metropolitan Detention Center on Monday. Bond is set at $200,000 cash or surety.
Legalize drugs.
Legalize prostitution.
Legal age of consent is voided.
No gov't intervention in any activity.
No Judeo-Christian moral absolutes.
OK, well I'll go ahead and answer this: Legalize drugs.
Instead of needing $100 for his cocaine or heroin habit Junkie Dad can buy a weeks supply for $10 at the pharmacy, just like generic aspirin. He gets his $10 bucks recycling cans, like most winos today.
Legalize prostitution.
Mr. Freak Dealer, now in another line of work, goes to the local licensed brothel to have sex with a willing seller.
Legal age of consent is voided.
I've never heard this suggested by any libertarian think tank, the LP, or any candidate for Pres. running as a L. So this is a weak straw man. However, even so it is meaningless. The victim was not consenting, thus even if this were changed the act described would be rape.
No Judeo-Christian moral absolutes.
Again, not a part of any Libertarian platform I've ever seen. And again, what does it have to do with the story. I bet you $10 if you asked the three perps involved what their religion is they would all say "Christian". In Portland we are in the death penalty phase trial of a rapist / killer. His dad is a minister. Adherence to Judeo-Christian moral absolutes usually doesn't work for criminals, despite the fact that most of them claim to. Libertarianism is a political philosophy, not a religous ones. Libertarians strongly agree with many Judeo Christian absolutes such as "though shalt not kill" and "though shalt not steal". They would not agree with laws supporting "though shalt keep the sabath holy". I believe one can reasonably argue how much of a specific moral code should be turned into law in a secular republic without throwing laws against rape, kidnapping and murder out the window. I believe one can be a strong a Christian and a Libertarian at the same time, I know some.
In summary your characature is just that.
Legalize drugs.
Legalize prostitution.
Legal age of consent is voided.
No gov't intervention in any activity.
No Judeo-Christian moral absolutes.
OK, well I'll go ahead and answer this: Legalize drugs.
Instead of needing $100 for his cocaine or heroin habit Junkie Dad can buy a weeks supply for $10 at the pharmacy, just like generic aspirin. He gets his $10 bucks recycling cans, like most winos today.
Legalize prostitution.
Mr. Freak Dealer, now in another line of work, goes to the local licensed brothel to have sex with a willing seller.
Legal age of consent is voided.
I've never heard this suggested by any libertarian think tank, the LP, or any candidate for Pres. running as a L. So this is a weak straw man. However, even so it is meaningless. The victim was not consenting, thus even if this were changed the act described would be rape.
No Judeo-Christian moral absolutes.
Again, not a part of any Libertarian platform I've ever seen. And again, what does it have to do with the story. I bet you $10 if you asked the three perps involved what their religion is they would all say "Christian". In Portland we are in the death penalty phase trial of a rapist / killer. His dad is a minister. Adherence to Judeo-Christian moral absolutes usually doesn't work for criminals, despite the fact that most of them claim to. Libertarianism is a political philosophy, not a religous ones. Libertarians strongly agree with many Judeo Christian absolutes such as "though shalt not kill" and "though shalt not steal". They would not agree with laws supporting "though shalt keep the sabath holy". I believe one can reasonably argue how much of a specific moral code should be turned into law in a secular republic without throwing laws against rape, kidnapping and murder out the window. I believe one can be a strong a Christian and a Libertarian at the same time, I know some.
In summary your characature is just that.
Gun addiction is an academically documented factiod.
Really? Various governments *have* solved the "drug problem." Does China have a "drug problem?" Does Saudi Arabia?
Are you aware of any Libertarians who would make this activity illegal for a parent to do?
In your Libertarian world, this 15-year-old girl (not 4-year-old) would "have the right to establish their maturity by assuming administration and protection of their own rights, ending dependency upon their parents or other guardians, and assuming all responsibilities of adulthood."
This 15-year-old girl could then engage in legal prostitution, she could do legal drugs, she could pose for legal pornography.
Do you deny this?
You don't like his answer, tough -- that doesn't give you the right to keep badgering him.
First off, your quote:
"have the right to establish their maturity by assuming administration and protection of their own rights, ending dependency upon their parents or other guardians, and assuming all responsibilities of adulthood."
Is not mine. I have never said that, I have never posted that; and you are either a liar or a troll for attributing that to me. I have not put words in your mouth, nor flamed you with made up gibberish and wild accusations. I certainly possess the intellectual capability to lie and make up quotes for you, but I have a bit of integrity.
This 15-year-old girl could then engage in legal prostitution, she could do legal drugs, she could pose for legal pornography.
In a libertarian world, an adult would have the capability to do this; and adults presently do this as commonplace. Again, as you apparently missed this concept "I'm unaware of any Libertarian who wants to see children sexually abused."
Please note, THAT is a quote that I said, it is attributable to me, and at no time have I stooped to putting words in your mouth.
Libertarians have a fairly straightforward point of view. I don't need your approval to live my life; mankind has survived for thousands of years by assuming personal responsibilityf or thier actions. What I chose to eat, read, ingest, drink or smoke is none of your business. It will never be any of your business, and I resent you thinking that somehow you have the authority to dictate what I chose to do. I have managed to raise my family, build a career, send all 4 of my kids to college, and own numerous homes without your input; why would I need your blessing in any other endeavor I chose? That said, Libertarians also recognize the need for police and laws; however it's the extent that the laws intrude upon the everyday lives of the population that is in question.
Second, my quote is from the Libertarian Party platform. Do you support the position that children "have the right to establish their maturity by assuming administration and protection of their own rights, ending dependency upon their parents or other guardians, and assuming all responsibilities of adulthood"?
Do you support the position calling for "the repeal of all laws establishing criminal or civil penalties for the use of drugs"?
Do you support the position calling for "the repeal of all laws regarding consensual sexual relations, including prostitution and solicitation"?
All of the above is in the Libertarian platform -- don't berate sully777 for listing it.
I said I was calling you out.
I don't want to go out with you.
I don't associate with perp defenders.
The perp you are interested in can be found at Metropolitan Detention Center on Monday. Bond is set at $200,000 cash or surety.
Be sure to bring cash or surety for him ...
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