Lockyer rejects halt to nuptials He dismisses governor's as a political ploy (CA RATS ALERT)

San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 2/21/04 | Nanett Asimov & Ryan Kim

[I_Love_My_Husband]

State Attorney General Bill Lockyer on Saturday rebuffed Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger's demand that he force an end to San Francisco's same-sex marriages, calling the directive political rhetoric.

"The governor can direct the Highway Patrol. He can direct the next 'Terminator 4' movie if he chooses. But he can't direct the attorney general in the way he's attempted to do," Lockyer said, adding that Schwarzenegger's written directive "was a statement designed for consumption at the Republican convention."

[patriciaruth]

I think that was the quote!

Good grief!

[Iris7]

Onyx is correct in #260. You display poor insight into the human decision making process.

People do what they do because they want to, that is, they do what they do because of how they feel, not because of how they think. The thinking comes later, largely in an effort to "justify" what has been done to their social group.

This very much includes you, Professor, as well as me.

"Mankind is not rational, but rationalizing."

[I_Love_My_Husband]

The backlash has begun

Poll: Majority of Mass. residents oppose legalizing gay marriage

[Paleo Conservative]

We're entering an era of lawless courts that recognize no limits on their powers, or separation of those powers from the other branches of governments. The liberals are snickering at this, because all of this crap is just one big liberal wet dream that could not be implemented any other way.

It's about time to pass a constituttional amendment that allows a super majority in both houses of Congress or a super majority of states to overturn US Supreme Court decisions and appealate court decistions.

But it also carries the danger of starting a civil war, and the liberals don't have any guns.

Why do you think the left wants to take away our guns?

[Iris7]

Condescension may make it in the classroom where your students are in awe of your power to give them an F, but childish displays of arrogance and moderate intellect will impress few here.

[claudiustg]

Homosexual marriage is about the larger community approving of homosexual acts.

Like Yossarian in Catch 22 you have to like them before they'll let you go.

[Prime Choice]

Once the illegals leave CA will be quite spacious again :-)

We're working on a Sure-Fire Deportation program right now. It's got a few bugs, but seems to work well overall...

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

ROFL!!!

I must close down for the night!

[longtermmemmory]

In short even a childless couple supports the paradign of mother and father.

And yes a matched pair of male and female genitals is the issue.

Marriage under up through common law and incorporating common law into present law is based on:
1. Age of Consent
2. Not closer than 1st cousin
3. Not married to another
4. One man one woman (a father and a mother child raising breeding pair)

Homosexuals have never been discriminated from participating in marriage based on those standards. (The going rate for an immigration marriage to a homosexual in south beach is 5k.) The problem is homosexuals do not want standards. Standards means their placement of male genitals inside another man is incorrect on any number of grounds.

Governemnt is in the business of recording marriages because the ad hoc private system was unreliable. The license is not a licesnse as much as a recording.

Additionally the ABA through their American Law Institute promulgated the Model Code which has sex partners as having standing to claim rights to children. Proximaty would equal grounds for a claim even if the person is married to another. (ie a a secret homosexual lover would be able to claim visitation rights over the mother's objections. Now I can get a client sole custody and supervised vistation with no overnight visitation)

Homosexual marriage is ONLY about the sex act of two homosexuals. The seeking of marriage is public acceptance as the homosexual act as "normal".

Just because there is more than one issue does not mean all are not important. Other issue may be more important in your opinion. HOwever it is this issue that needs attention now.

This issue is going to get people out to the polling stations to vote against those who support special rights for homosexuals.

[onyx]

Excellent post. Thank you.

[CyberAnt]

I agree .. and I think that's what Arnold is worried about.

[CyberAnt]

Bingo! I think we have a winner!!

Like Rush said, just let the dems continue to act against the rule of law. This is going to backfire very badly on the dems. Boxer senses that, and has been trying to stop it, but these dems can taste blood and they're not going to stop. Let them make complete fools of themselves.

[CyberAnt]

"aspirations for the Governor's job"

HE JUST THREW THAT AWAY!!

[Phyto Chems]

Dereliction of duty would work also. We need the "Rule Of Law" to be upheld.

[CyberAnt]

Translation: I'll stick my finger into the wind and if it's blowing the right way then I'll hop on the bandwagon; otherwise, I'll crawl back into my cave and keep quiet, and hope nobody will notice!

[Finalapproach29er]

Money corrupts.

Name a wealthy city (like SF) that hasn't turned its back on GOD.

Sad to watch this nation become arrogant, city by city. As we grow we become more stupid.

God warned us. The American empire will fall from internal corruption just like the homo-loving Roman empire.Sad.

I'd take a 100 rural people over 100 city folk every time.

[CyberAnt]

"When required by the public interest or directed by the Governor, the Attorney General shall assist any district attorney in the discharge of the duties of that office"

This last sentence is interesting. The Governor and "direct" the AG to assist a DA. If so, then why can't the Governor "direct" the AG to do other things as well ..?? Sec 13 begins with: "Subject to the powers and duties of the Governor", the AG shall. Looks like to have to find out exactly what the "powers and duties" are.

[heleny]

You can't impeach the AG. You can recall him, though.

Any statewide elected official can be impeached. The process, similar to the process to impeach a president, requires that the Assembly adopt a resolution to impeach and that the Senate hold the trial.

We (the common citizens) can only recall such officers, since our liberal legislature won't impeach or convict one of their own. Obviously, recall and impeachment have different standards/requirements.

CALIFORNIA CODES
GOVERNMENT CODE
SECTION 3020-3040

3020. State officers elected on a statewide basis, members of the State Board of Equalization, and judges of state courts are subject to impeachment for misconduct in office.

[heleny]

Easier to remember Lockjaw than Lockyear or is it Lockyeeeer? He was infamous during the height of the California Power Crisis when he said that all the out of state companies were doing terrible things to California and Ken Lay of Enron should be put in a cell with a cell mate called BUTCH who would show him a little Sodomy action!

It was "Spike," not "Butch."

"I would love to personally escort Lay to an 8-by-10 cell that he could share with a tattooed dude who says ‘Hi, my name is Spike, honey,’" Lockyer said.

[heleny]

Never mind, I see you and others have already found the quote!