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Yay. It's OVER in New Mexico!
1 posted on 02/20/2004 5:59:15 PM PST by I_Love_My_Husband
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To: little jeremiah
Where's the governator now?
2 posted on 02/20/2004 5:59:53 PM PST by I_Love_My_Husband (Borders, Language, Culture, Straights - now more than ever)
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To: I_Love_My_Husband
Marriage is a privilege granted to one man and one woman to facilitate the begetting and rearing of children. It's not a game of "house" for faggots.
3 posted on 02/20/2004 6:01:19 PM PST by Agnes Heep
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To: I_Love_My_Husband
Good.


6 posted on 02/20/2004 6:03:40 PM PST by rdb3 (Don`t be afraid doing tasks you`re not familiar with. Remember, Noahs ark was built by an amateur.)
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To: I_Love_My_Husband

"This is not OK. We deserve rights," shouted Carolyn Ford, angrily pointing a finger while holding a bouquet of red and white roses.

LOL, if its a "Right", what is a license for?

Merriam-Webster "license":

Are they now admitting that the activities they engage in are unlawful, and must look to government to allow them to engage in their bedroom passtimes?

9 posted on 02/20/2004 6:07:56 PM PST by ancient_geezer (Equality, the French disease: Everyone is equal beneath the guillotine.)
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To: Howlin; Ed_NYC; MonroeDNA; widgysoft; Springman; Timesink; dubyaismypresident; Grani; coug97; ...
"This is not OK. We deserve rights,"

You have rights. Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

Gay marriage ain't one of those rights.

Now if California would just enforce the damn law instead of playing pattycake with Gavin Newsom...

Just damn.

If you want on the list, FReepmail me. This IS a high-volume PING list...

10 posted on 02/20/2004 6:09:50 PM PST by mhking (My gravely throat feels like it's been attacked with a rusty rasp....)
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To: I_Love_My_Husband
"This is not OK. We deserve rights," shouted Carolyn Ford

Carolyn has the same right to marry any man that will have her as every other woman does. Can she cook? Hell, maybe she can come by here after my wife wises up and leaves.

TS
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13 posted on 02/20/2004 6:18:18 PM PST by Tanniker Smith
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To: I_Love_My_Husband
"This is not OK. We deserve rights," shouted Carolyn Ford, angrily pointing a finger while holding a bouquet of red and white roses.

Madam, you have the right to marry. You may marry any man outside your immediate family who will take you to wife, and I wish you happiness. You cannot marry another woman because the laws of logical causality have not yet been revoked. Good day.

14 posted on 02/20/2004 6:21:48 PM PST by Slings and Arrows (Am Yisrael Chai!)
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To: I_Love_My_Husband; Liz; Howlin
A spokeswoman said Democratic Gov. Bill Richardson was opposed to same-sex marriage.

RATS going against the demands of their supporters? Doesn't sound good - especially during an election year...

16 posted on 02/20/2004 6:28:33 PM PST by Libloather (Charter member - VRWC - # EIB-04151982)
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"A spokeswoman said Democratic Gov. Bill Richardson was opposed to same-sex marriage. "The governor has always been a champion for human rights. He supports equal rights and opposes all forms of discrimination. However, he is opposed to same-sex marriage," said Marsha Catron."

As predicted here, Richardson would act immediately to stop gay marriages...thus giving the Democrats feigned "credibility" in an election year for being "against" gay marriages.

This now makes New Mexico's governor the #1 frontrunner for the Dems' VP candidacy slot this year...bumping him *above* Hillary.

It's professional politics, and these stunts are all a complete sham.

Notice that the clerk who made this gay marriage decision waited until the New Mexico legislature ended yesterday for the rest of the year. Notice how she first claimed that she made her decision regardless of politics, only to later claim that she wanted her county to be ahead of the national curve as gay marriages swept through our country.

Notice that the gay lobby isn't denouncing the Democrats for suddenly being "against" gay marriage.

This was a wink, wink, nod, nod head fake. It was a setup from moment one, and your humble Southack *TOLD* you precisely what Governor Richardson was going to do even before he did it.

By having Richardson as an option for their VP candidacy, the Dems can now neuter the gay marriage issue if the polls tell them that "the people" otherwise don't trust the Dems on the gay marriage issue. All that they have to do is to nominate Richardson, and he can point out that he "stopped" gay marriage in his state. Poof! The Dems can suddenly claim to be against gay marriage with some level of feigned credibility.

...And that's what this little event was all about. It was a setup to show that a Democrat was against gay marriage, just as Bill Clinton's 1992 execution of a retarded Arkansas inmate was a setup to feign that Democrats were tough on crime.

Same scam, and lots of people will still buy this scam in a variety of different ways (e.g. claiming that Pubbies aren't doing "enough" against gay marriage, etc.).

20 posted on 02/20/2004 6:35:59 PM PST by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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Homosexual Agenda Ping - Good news! I like good news.

If anyone wants on or off this ping list, ping me. I obey orders.
22 posted on 02/20/2004 6:39:42 PM PST by little jeremiah (everyone is entitled to their opinion, but everyone isn't entitled to be right.)
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To: I_Love_My_Husband
Marriage isn't a right; it is a responsibility to husband and wife.
31 posted on 02/20/2004 7:11:28 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: redlipstick
Ping in case you missed this last night like I did. The NM AG stepped in and put a stop to this nonsense. Yay!
40 posted on 02/21/2004 6:44:08 AM PST by cyncooper
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To: yall

For a day, gay weddings bloomed in unlikely New Mexico county

26 same-sex licenses issued before attorney general halts process

11:20 PM CST on Friday, February 20, 2004

By ZELIE POLLON / Special Contributor to The Dallas Morning News

SANTA FE, N.M. – A semi-rural county in New Mexico on Friday became the nation's second in recent weeks to issue same-sex wedding licenses, but by the end of the day those licenses were declared invalid by the state's attorney general.

The ruling, by Attorney General Patricia Madrid, put the brakes on a rollercoaster day that found New Mexico at the center of one of the country's hottest topics.

It began in Sandoval County after a Republican county clerk received a request for a same-sex marriage license and said she found nothing in state law that made it illegal.

"There's nothing in the law that I can find that would prohibit issuing same-sex marriage licenses," said County Clerk Victoria Dunlap. "I'm sure New Mexico will become the next test ground [for gay marriage]. We're fairly open-minded here, despite the rural area we're living in."

News traveled fast, and by Friday afternoon, lines of same-sex couples, hugging and making new acquaintances, snaked out the door of the Sandoval County clerk's office in Bernalillo, north of Albuquerque. By the time the attorney general's opinion came down, 26 marriage licenses had registered, said Melinda Foster of the Sandoval County clerk's office. Some of those couples were married in ceremonies on the street outside the courthouse.

One of those who received a license was Jim Walker, an Albuquerque archaeologist who has been in a committed relationship with another man for 26 years.

"I woke up and heard on the radio that Sandoval County was issuing marriage licenses, so I took a little time off work and decided to get married," he said. Mr. Walker said he and his partner were married in October in Toronto and reserved tickets to Massachusetts with the intent of becoming legally married in the United States. It had never occurred to him he could do such a thing closer to home.

"This is something a lot of people never thought they would see in their lifetime," said Mr. Walker, describing a scene with "a lot of happy people, a lot of tears and a lot of hugging."

Ms. Madrid's opinion halted the clerk from issuing any addition licenses. A crowd outside the office reacted with boos and shouts while a deputy clerk read the attorney general's legal advice.

"Until the laws are changed through the legislative process or declared unconstitutional by the judicial process, the statutes limit marriage in New Mexico to a man and a woman," Ms. Madrid wrote. "Thus in my judgment, no county clerk should issue a marriage license to same-sex couples because those licenses would be invalid under current law."

Mr. Walker was disappointed and felt she had read things into state statutes.

"That's not what the statute says," he said. "It's gender neutral."

State law defines marriage as a civil contract between contracting parties but it does not mention gender. A 1961 statute that created the form used for marriage licenses asks for information about the male and female applicants.

But the Equal Rights Act of 1973 outlaws discrimination based on sex, said Sandoval County Attorney David Mathews.

In nearby – and generally more liberal – Santa Fe, County Clerk Rebecca Bustamante said she and the state's 32 other county clerks were disappointed in Sandoval County's position on issuing licenses. She said that in 1997 she turned away a same-sex couple who had requested a license.

"We would not have done it. That's a decision that needs to be made by the courts and the legislature. As clerks we do not take an oath of office to make law but to uphold the law," she said.

Ultimately the issue will be left to the courts and lawmakers to decide, according to various people.

"If New Mexico wants to codify same-sex marriages it would entail a different interpretation by the courts or a legislative change," said attorney general spokesperson Sam Thompson.

Some gay-rights advocates said they were not necessarily deflated by the developments on Friday.

"The attorney general's statement is an advisory decision, an initial review," said Linda Siegle, a lobbyist for the Coalition for Equality, a gay and lesbian rights group in New Mexico. "We'll be working with members of the legislature to look at all the options available to us."

Ms. Siegle said that the issue was not brought up by gays and lesbians in New Mexico.

"This was initiated by a Republican clerk to force the issue," said Ms. Siegle "This is not how we wanted the issue to come about. It's a long-term process."

Sandoval County, which lies southwest of Santa Fe, includes massive tracts of undeveloped land and one of the state's fastest-growing communities, Rio Arriba, on the fringes of Albuquerque. It is home to Intel Corp's semiconductor plant, said to be the largest in the world. The county's population of 90,000 also includes all or part of nine different Indian pueblos.

State Sen. Steve Komadina, a Republican who represents Sandoval County, said he was surprised the issue of same-sex marriage licenses came up in his district, just north of Albuquerque. "I would have expected, if it were going to occur anywhere it would occur in Santa Fe."

Gay rights in general have been an issue in the New Mexico Legislature, he said, but not same sex marriage specifically. Still, "There's no question, gay activism is alive and well in the land of enchantment," he said.

Democratic Gov. Bill Richardson on Friday stayed mum on the subject but in the past has voiced opposition to gay marriage while stating that he does support equal rights for same-sex couples.

New Mexico has always been a nexus for alternative lifestyles, and plans for two gay and lesbian retirement centers are in the beginning stages due to Santa Fe's tolerant climate.

Individuals like Mr. Walker had never expected to have a legal license to marry in New Mexico, and especially on such short notice. It's just a continuation of their fight for equal rights living as gay and lesbian people, Mr. Walker said.

"And anyway, we're still married in Canada."

Staff Writer Diane Jennings in Dallas and The Associated Press contributed to this report.

Zelie Pollon is a Santa Fe, N.M., free-lance writer


Online at: http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/texassouthwest/stories/022104dnnatnmmarriage.3fa7e.html

41 posted on 02/21/2004 7:47:37 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (The Democrats believe in CHOICE. I have chosen to vote STRAIGHT TICKET GOP for years !!)
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To: I_Love_My_Husband
Whatever possessed this clerk to bypass law? Was it the mayor of California that influenced this clerk to ignore the law as well? Why bother to have laws if they are NOT enforced and people are NOT punished for breaking them? Shall we move away from a democracy and embrace anarchy to appease the depraved?
46 posted on 02/21/2004 10:29:42 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: I_Love_My_Husband; Salem; Dubya; autoresponder; *Homosexual Agenda; MeekOneGOP; Sabertooth; ...

""This is not OK. We deserve rights," shouted Carolyn Ford, angrily pointing a finger while holding a bouquet of red and white roses."

Rush Limbaugh is saying leave them alone - let QUEER HELL BREAK OUT ALL OVER - IN EVERY STATE.

Reason: Prompt an emergency amendment to the Constitution of The United states banning queer (mairrages) in ALL 50 STATES.

Rush is a pretty smart cookie.

48 posted on 02/21/2004 12:53:40 PM PST by Happy2BMe (U.S.A. - - United We Stand - - Divided We Fall - - Support Our Troops - - Vote BUSH)
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To: I_Love_My_Husband
New Mexico... AG's ruling prompts her to STOP(gay marraige OVER in NM!)

I suspect that the Pink Crowd is just beginning to learn that they needed to
visit an audiologist...
...the didn't hear folks trying to tell them they had gone too far.
56 posted on 02/21/2004 4:24:31 PM PST by VOA
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