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U.S. eases test rules for immigrant kids
Chicago Tribune ^ | 2-20-04 | Tracy Dell'Angela and Jodi S. Cohen

Posted on 02/20/2004 2:51:22 PM PST by JustPiper

WARNING: Anger Management Needed!

Schools with large populations of immigrant students will soon get some breathing room from testing requirements under reforms announced Thursday by federal and state education officials.

Educators have complained that the current testing system too often labels as failures children with limited English skills and the schools where they are concentrated. Under the federal No Child Left Behind law, schools are held accountable for the test scores of various subgroups of students, including those with limited English skills.

Long article but a necessary read

(Excerpt) Read more at chicagotribune.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; children; education; esol; illegals; kowtow; nclb; testing
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Long article but a necessary read!
1 posted on 02/20/2004 2:51:22 PM PST by JustPiper
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A Must Ping!
2 posted on 02/20/2004 2:51:55 PM PST by JustPiper (Don't try to solve serious matters in the middle of the night)
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You will want to read this entire article, especially parents!
3 posted on 02/20/2004 2:52:39 PM PST by JustPiper (Don't try to solve serious matters in the middle of the night)
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To: JustPiper
Wow! Not only are we hell-bent upon importing poverty and illiteracy at unprecedented rates. But now we're hell-bent upon keeping these people impoverished and illiterate.

Fill in the blank: This is a recipe for ________________.

4 posted on 02/20/2004 3:00:11 PM PST by Spiff (Don't believe everything you think.)
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To: JustPiper
Like always, these tests founder as soon as some liberal educator starts whining. If the whining doesn't work, they threaten to 'sue the racists who force the test on them and cut off their money unfairly'.

This nationalized education scheme is a big ol' sham.

The test results will end up showing that all of America is a Lake Woebegone where all the children are just a bit above average.
5 posted on 02/20/2004 3:21:12 PM PST by George W. Bush (It's the Congress, stupid.)
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To: Spiff
So now they'll go with a "No child left behind but the Mexican child" policy. Really they might as well ---- it comes down to the parents ---- when they are too lazy to teach the child basic skills needed for entering kindergarten or even Head Start programs and discourage their child from learning English, learning their colors or alphabet, never buy the child books, crayons etc --- there's not much the schools can do.
6 posted on 02/20/2004 3:36:04 PM PST by FITZ
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To: Spiff
Fill in the blank: This is a recipe for __Mexico_____________.


It does look like that's where we're headed.
7 posted on 02/20/2004 3:40:01 PM PST by FITZ
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To: JustPiper
Two insane programs collide: The silly pretense that you can possibly have an educational system that both educates anyone, and still leaves no child behind, meets the silly pretense that it does not matter who comes into your society, that people are somehow interchangeable.

Guess what. The Federal Government cannot repeal reality, and this is never going to sort out in a way that the proponents of either of those very, very silly ideas, would like.

William Flax Return Of The Gods Web Site

8 posted on 02/20/2004 3:41:13 PM PST by Ohioan
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To: JustPiper
BUMP.

Just more of "a world turned upside down."

9 posted on 02/20/2004 4:39:25 PM PST by Missouri
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To: JustPiper
BTTT for later.
10 posted on 02/20/2004 5:11:46 PM PST by 4.1O dana super trac pak (Let them eat amnesty)
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To: JustPiper
My brother taught ESL at a public school last year. Some kid from Asia arrived at his school (couldn't speak a word of English) and the principal told him he had to test him under NCLB.

How stupid is that?

A couple of months ago, some silly lady from the U.S. Department of Education insisted (with a straight face) that Down's Syndrome children will take the same tests as normal children and will be required to pass them under NCLB by 2014.

I sort of figured out NCLB is a fraud and a joke.


11 posted on 02/20/2004 5:30:08 PM PST by ladylib
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To: Ohioan
You've got that one right.
12 posted on 02/20/2004 5:30:45 PM PST by ladylib
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To: ladylib
NCLB is based on the success of TASS.

The Gold Star State

13 posted on 02/20/2004 7:17:24 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: Spiff
This is a recipe for ________________.

Tortilla soup? ;)
14 posted on 02/20/2004 8:26:30 PM PST by JustPiper (Don't try to solve serious matters in the middle of the night)
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To: George W. Bush
When they had their busride last year and were stopped by Border Patrol in Texas, the agents were told to leave them alone for it is 'profiling' that's their excuse for everything. Oh, btw, it was two of our own Congressman that spewed this.
15 posted on 02/20/2004 8:27:53 PM PST by JustPiper (Don't try to solve serious matters in the middle of the night)
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To: Ohioan
What I still don't get is, is our system so different in Illinois, in Chicago than border schools? I mean if a child does not live in their particular school district, tough! They must go to that school and unless it is a 'lottery' school, that is that!
16 posted on 02/20/2004 8:29:29 PM PST by JustPiper (Don't try to solve serious matters in the middle of the night)
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To: JustPiper
You know, there is an ex-INS (or maybe current INS) FReeper. He's been on some of these threads. I just can't recall his handle.

He has a lot of good info, the kind of stuff that only agency staff hears about.
17 posted on 02/20/2004 8:44:41 PM PST by George W. Bush (It's the Congress, stupid.)
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To: JustPiper
I was reading in an article about State Interposition http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1081540/posts that all it takes to make the Feds get out of a state's education business is for that state's governor to stand up and say so. While George Wallace was forever villified for standing in defiance in front of a school, what he was doing was totally within his rights under the U.S. Constitution.
Unfunded mandates and misapplied powers are also addressed in the article. We are not required to put up with this BS.
18 posted on 02/20/2004 9:01:17 PM PST by NewRomeTacitus (wants Centurions on the Frontier.)
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To: JustPiper
bttt
19 posted on 02/21/2004 12:12:48 AM PST by lainde (Heads up...We're coming and we've got tongue blades!!)
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To: Ben Ficklin
I read a couple of articles where students in Texas spend half their time learning how to pass these tests.
20 posted on 02/21/2004 4:46:23 AM PST by ladylib
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