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County to issue same-sex marriage licenses (NEW MEXICO TODAY 2/20/04)
AP via News Channel 15 wane.com ^ | 2/20/2004

Posted on 02/20/2004 9:55:00 AM PST by cyncooper

Bernalillo, New Mexico-AP -- A county clerk in New Mexico says it has nothing to do with "politics or morals."

Sandoval County Clerk Victoria Dunlap says the county plans to issue marriage licenses for same-sex couples.

She made the decision after asking for an opinion from the county attorney, who said New Mexico law isn't clear on the issue. He also says refusing to issue marriage licenses to gay couples could open the county to legal action.

State law defines marriage as a civil contract between contracting parties. It doesn't mention gender.

The issue of gay marriage has stirred controversy in other states. San Francisco granted hundreds of same-sex marriage licenses in defiance of California state law.

And lawmakers in Massachusetts expect to resume a debate on a constitutional amendment that would ban gay marriage.


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To: Jerry_M
I addressed that Jerry, :-D.
141 posted on 02/20/2004 3:48:57 PM PST by ican'tbelieveit
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To: cyncooper

The Slippery Slope is now Vertical


142 posted on 02/20/2004 3:50:21 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: Rutles4Ever
"If Newsom wants to make this a public showdown with Sacramento, he is underestimating Arnold's willingness to meet him on the field of battle."

It's time for Arnold to "terminate" this. Or perhaps "erasure" would be better.

143 posted on 02/20/2004 3:53:03 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: cyncooper
Hey ! Why didn't yall KEEP our runaway Texas Legislators while they were there, New Mexico !? ...

From The Dallas Morning News ...


Same-sex couples in New Mexico line up to tie knot

05:56 PM CST on Friday, February 20, 2004

Associated Press

BERNALILLO, N.M. – Gay and lesbian couples lined up to tie the knot Friday in this sleepy New Mexico town after the county clerk agreed to grant marriage licenses to same-sex couples.

Roughly 15 couples had been granted licenses by late morning, the Sandoval County clerk's office said. A sign-up list for applications had grown to 38 couples, with some waiting in line for in the hall outside the clerk's office inside a courthouse.

Outside court, two reverands conducted impromptu marriage ceremonies.

Meanwhile, two state senators and the county commissioner called for a quick opinion from the attorney general on whether the licenses were legal.

Among the first to get their license were two women who got married in a brief ceremony in front of the courthouse.

"When we heard the news this morning, we knew we couldn't wait. We had to come down here," Jenifer Albright said after she and Anne Schultz, 34, both of Albuquerque, exchanged vows in front of the courthouse.

James Walker and Michael Palmer took extended lunch breaks from work for a moment they said they'd waited 26 years for. The men were married in Toronto last year, but that didn't give them rights in the United States.

Walker said a marriage certificate from Sandoval County "would give us a lot of rights and benefits that have been denied us as a couple, including the rights associated with property ownership and the rights associated with medical decisions."

"Look at the sincerity here," pointing to a pair of women holding hands and exchanging vows, said the Rev. Pearl Gabaldon, who was conducting ceremonies.

County Clerk Victoria Dunlap, a Republican, said Thursday that she was unaware of any laws prohibiting licenses from being issued for same-sex couples. She said she sought an opinion from her county attorney after she got a call earlier this week from someone asking about same-sex ceremonies.

"This has nothing to do with politics or morals," she told the Albuquerque Journal. "If there are no legal grounds that say this should be prohibited, I can't withhold it ... This office won't say no until shown it's not permissible."

She said County Attorney David Mathews told her that New Mexico law is unclear on the issue.

Republican state Sen. Steve Komadina, R-Corrales, criticized Dunlap's decision and urged state Attorney General Patricia Madrid to issue a prompt opinion. Sandoval County Commission Chairman Daymon Ely also sought a legal opinion.

A spokeswoman for Madrid said an opinion could be issued next week. Gov. Bill Richardson has said he opposes same-sex marriages.

"I feel badly that action was taken before an answer was obtained," Kominda said. "That was very irresponsible and will cause heartache to people on all sides of the question."

The clerk's decision came as a surprise to Linda Siegle, a lobbyist representing the Coalition for Equality in New Mexico, a gay rights group.

Siegle said she assumes Dunlap was trying to force a decision on gay marriage in New Mexico.

"It's not our primary issue right now but it has to become one of our primary issues," Siegle said.

Melinda Foster, a clerk's administrative assistant, said people have been calling from across New Mexico, interested in filing. Dunlap was not immediately available for comment Friday.

To get an application, would-be married couples had to show up with a photo ID, social security card and $25 to receive an application. In getting their stamped licenses, they were handed pink "newlywed bags" with coupons and other items.

On Thursday, Mathews said he was concerned that refusing to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples could open the county to legal liability.

State law defines marriage as a civil contract between contracting parties but it does not mention gender. The only law that mentions gender is a 1961 statute that created the form used for marriage licenses and which asks for information about the male and female applicants.

But the Equal Rights Act of 1973 outlaws discrimination based on sex, Mathews said.

Dunlap said she would issue marriage licenses to same-sex applicants until Sandoval County receives a legal opinion from the attorney general.

Mathews said he did not want Sandoval County to become a test case for same-sex marriage in New Mexico and that the county does not have a position on the issue.

"This is a statewide issue, and we need some guidance," he said.

Clerks in nearby Santa Fe and Bernalillo County said they would not issue same-sex marriage licenses.

"My position is I took an oath to uphold the law, not change the law," said Rebecca Bustamante, Santa Fe County clerk. "I wouldn't do it because I just don't think I can."

Mary Herrera, Bernalillo County clerk, aid she has no plans to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples. She cited the 1961 law.

San Francisco has sanctioned about 3,000 gay unions since it began defying a California law banning same-sex marriages.

Even before the San Francisco weddings, gay marriage had emerged as a volatile election-year topic, largely because of the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court's ruling last year that the state must start recognizing gay marriages as of May 17.


Online at: http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/newthishour/stories/022104dnnatnmmarriage.3fa7e.html

144 posted on 02/20/2004 4:13:35 PM PST by MeekOneGOP (The Democrats believe in CHOICE. I have chosen to vote STRAIGHT TICKET GOP for years !!)
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To: Constantine XIII
No joke. What part of ENUMERATED POWERS don't these people understand? W isn't Clinton.

Nope or he would do what Clinton did.

Stroke of the Pen, Law of the Land" Pretty neat
Paul Begalia Commenting on EO's

145 posted on 02/20/2004 5:37:11 PM PST by itsahoot (The lesser of two evils, is evil still...Alan Keyes)
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To: Eastbound
"State law defines marriage as a civil contract between contracting parties. It doesn't mention gender."

Not to mention it makes no exception for siblings. Or sons and daughters for that matter.

146 posted on 02/20/2004 5:43:02 PM PST by itsahoot (The lesser of two evils, is evil still...Alan Keyes)
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To: Rutles4Ever
If Newsom wants to make this a public showdown with Sacramento, he is underestimating Arnold's willingness to meet him on the field of battle.

Just what has Arnold done that makes you think he will do battle? Has he ordered the Attorney General to pursue criminal charges against those breaking the law?

147 posted on 02/20/2004 5:53:46 PM PST by itsahoot (The lesser of two evils, is evil still...Alan Keyes)
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To: cyncooper
It seems to me that this push by the homosexuals and the democratic party is being purposely timed during the 2004 campaigns and that the name Bill Richardson (Governor of NM) is going to play a big part in its resolution. Just a hunch...
148 posted on 02/20/2004 6:06:07 PM PST by eeriegeno
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To: itsahoot
Excellent point!
149 posted on 02/20/2004 6:29:18 PM PST by Eastbound
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To: cyncooper
Everytime a story like this comes out, scratch one more Rat senator. and add 2 points to Bush's win while running for a Constitutional Ammendment to ban gay marriage.
150 posted on 02/20/2004 7:57:48 PM PST by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig ( I went to the gun show today and saw an Sharpton for President sticker on a truck. Seriously dude.)
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To: CedarDave
You mean marry your boyfriend and then Blow your interlock. /grin
151 posted on 02/20/2004 8:10:47 PM PST by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig ( I went to the gun show today and saw an Sharpton for President sticker on a truck. Seriously dude.)
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To: Southack
I think you're wrong. I think he will sit on his hands so Bush can hammer this issue all year and beat Kerry, which is what the XXXlintons want so Hillary can run in 2008.
152 posted on 02/20/2004 8:18:43 PM PST by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig ( I went to the gun show today and saw an Sharpton for President sticker on a truck. Seriously dude.)
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To: gawd
The world wasn't ending when the Nazis started herding Jews into concentration camps, either. But that doesn't mean they should have been allowed to.
153 posted on 02/20/2004 8:32:50 PM PST by Post Toasties
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To: gawd
three people can enter into a contract. Can 3 people get married to eachother?
154 posted on 02/20/2004 8:33:22 PM PST by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig ( I went to the gun show today and saw an Sharpton for President sticker on a truck. Seriously dude.)
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To: big ern
"I think you're wrong. I think he will sit on his hands so Bush can hammer this issue all year and beat Kerry, which is what the XXXlintons want so Hillary can run in 2008."

New Mexico Governor Richardson Orders Stop To Gay Marriages, Claims To Oppose Them

155 posted on 02/20/2004 9:07:29 PM PST by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: big ern
three people can enter into a contract. Can 3 people get married to eachother?

thousands of such couple exist in Utah at this very moment. Not in law, of course, but very much so in practice.

Whether or not this is "good" or "bad" is absolutely impossible to say, every man can decide that from his perspective alone, and shouldn't be going around imposing it on others.

156 posted on 02/20/2004 9:14:50 PM PST by gawd
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To: ican'tbelieveit
A lot of gay couples have moved to this state from SF.
157 posted on 02/20/2004 9:47:31 PM PST by sfRummygirl (www.constitutionparty.com)
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To: cyncooper
Sometime, I would like my president to not act like a lawyer, but act like a statesman. A little bit more like he did with the war. It would be nice, to have the right wing Christian president to sound like a right wing Christian president. Especially with gay marriage.
158 posted on 02/20/2004 9:57:51 PM PST by sfRummygirl (www.constitutionparty.com)
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To: big ern
I got news for you, "Triads" have been popular in SF for 20 years.
That will be next. I'm not joking in the least.
159 posted on 02/20/2004 10:02:27 PM PST by sfRummygirl (www.constitutionparty.com)
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To: cyncooper
The liberals are feeling their oats. Let em keep it up.
160 posted on 02/20/2004 10:11:48 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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