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Kerry's Mentor: Black Panther And Phony Vietnam Vet, Al Hubbard
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Posted on 02/17/2004 3:48:56 PM PST by Hon
From the VVAW website:
Since Vietnam Veterans Against the War's inception in 1967, tens of thousands of vets, GIs and supporters have participated in and supported the actions of VVAW. One of those members in the early 1970s was John Kerry.
VVAW national leader Al Hubbard appointed Kerry to the VVAW Executive Committee to assist in preparing Dewey Canyon III, VVAW's limited incursion into the land of Congress in 1971. Kerry made his greatest contribution to the anti-war movement and to VVAW in his speech to the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations on April 23, 1971.
http://www.vietnamvets.com/wwwboard/messages/24613.html
Kerry's VVAW leader and friend from 1971, Al Hubbard, lied about being an officer, Vietnam Veteran, and sustaining war injuries.
B. G. Burkett, in Stolen Valor reports that "Al Hubbard, the VVAW's executive secretary...wrote a poem:
America
Now,
Before the napalm-scorched earth
consumes the blood of would-be-fathers
and
have-been-sons
of daughters spread-eagled
and mothers on the run.
Reflect.
See what you've become,
Amerika.
A scathing commentary by one of those who could no longer stomach the fight, right? Wrong. Hubbard first claimed he was a decorated Air Force Captain who had caught shrapnel in his spine flying a transport plane into Da Nang in 1966. But after NBC received a tip that Hubbard was lying about his rank, a reporter confronted him. He confessed on the evening news and the Today Show that he actually served as a sergeant, not a pilot or captain, in Vietnam.
John Kerry defended Hubbard, citing the confession as proof of Hubbard's integrity. "Al owned up to the rank question," Kery said. "He thought it was time to tell the truth, and he did it because he thought it would be best for the organization."
Then the Defense Department issued a news release about "Alfred H.Hubbard['s] military record stating that "There is no record of any service in Vietnam."
http://www.tracyfineart.com/blog/
From the Weekly Standard:
John Kerry seems to have had a way of eluding the bad odor that clings to his old associates. On "Meet the Press" in 1971, he appeared with VVAW member Al Hubbard, a veteran who was exposed around this time for lying about his rank and combat experience (he had seen no combat). While this confirmed suspicions about the dubious identities of many of the winter soldiers, it didn't keep Kerry from becoming famous. The young politician was able to have his cake and eat it, too, becoming the establishment, patriotic face of a radical, anti-patriotic movement. Quite a trick, really.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/003/712ljiby.asp?pg=2
TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 1971; 2004; alhubbard; blackpanthers; hanoijohn; kerry; kerryrecord; mtp; psuedohero; vietgate; vietnam; vvaw
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posted on
02/17/2004 3:49:00 PM PST
by
Hon
To: Hon
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posted on
02/17/2004 3:52:26 PM PST
by
backhoe
(Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the TrackBall into the Sunset...)
To: All
Sorry, I left this piece out. It is from a book review of Home to War: A History of the Vietnam Veterans' Movement by Gerald Nicosia:
"The first third of the book is gripping as you get tossed into the middle of the formation of VVAW and other groups. Gerald Nicosia interviewed 600 veterans, including former Black Panther Al Hubbard, Ron Kovic, Jan Barry-a founding member of VVAW, and Joe Urgo. Joe is a member of VVAWAI and was the 1st Vietnam vet to go on a peace mission to Hanoi in August 1971, he also helped organize Winter Soldier and Dewey Canyon."
http://www.oz.net/~vvawai/sw/sw43/Home_to_War.html
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posted on
02/17/2004 3:53:15 PM PST
by
Hon
To: Hon; backhoe; Howlin; PhiKapMom; ohioWfan; Wolfstar; My2Cents; Tamsey; MeekOneGOP
OOOOOOOH. It just keeps getting
worse better, doesn't it?
Excellent work, Hon.
That photo -- a real rogues gallery. Shame on all of them. I remember hating these people at the time. No surprise, I still hate them.
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posted on
02/17/2004 3:56:25 PM PST
by
onyx
(Your secrets are safe with me and all my friends.)
To: backhoe
Hey, you right on the job. You beat me this time. Dang, backhoe, we're so grateful unto and for you.
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posted on
02/17/2004 3:58:16 PM PST
by
onyx
(Your secrets are safe with me and all my friends.)
To: onyx
If you're referring to the one with Ramsey Clark, just be aware that the Jane Fonda identification is probably wrong. I've never seen any evidence she was at Dewey Canyon.
But the other labels are accurate.
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posted on
02/17/2004 3:58:47 PM PST
by
Hon
To: All
Anyone know what ever happened to Al Hubbard and why he was never arrested for impersonating an officer?
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posted on
02/17/2004 3:58:55 PM PST
by
demnomo
To: Hon
I'm looking at all the grungy hippie types in that picture contrasted with Kerry and Clark who obviously have been to a barber. Limousine liberal scum. ;)
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posted on
02/17/2004 4:01:29 PM PST
by
demnomo
To: Hon
VietNam Vets To Kerry --- "NOW IT'S OUR TURN TO PROTEST!!!"
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posted on
02/17/2004 4:03:31 PM PST
by
Common Tator
(The super bowl gives a whole new meaning to the phrase "Boob Tube")
To: Hon
I know the most dems don't care about Kerry's betrayal of his brothers and his dances with frauds,traitors,betrayers and commies,our enemy.
I care.I despise his actions.Look at his voting record.He is a threat to our national security should he become President.
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posted on
02/17/2004 4:04:44 PM PST
by
MEG33
(John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
To: MEG33
Well, one of the things that gets me is that Kerry has never shown any judgment in who he associates with.
And again. this guy--this Black Panther--this fraud--was Kerry's mentor. He is the guy who appointed Kerry to a top position at VVAW.
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posted on
02/17/2004 4:10:10 PM PST
by
Hon
To: Hon
Al Hubbard and the Black Panthers were nothing more than murdering terrorists of their time. Comrade Kerry and his ilk were always kissing up to terrorists. One question to Kerry would be, do you denounce your association with Black Panther Al Hubbard, founder of Vietnam Vets Against the War?? If not, why should we trust you to fight terroism if you were one??
Pray for W and The Troops
12
posted on
02/17/2004 4:11:09 PM PST
by
bray
(Comrade Kerry's got some splainin to do!!!)
To: Hon
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posted on
02/17/2004 4:13:09 PM PST
by
Leisler
(Whatever it is you're doing, it's illegal now.)
To: onyx; Hon; autoresponder
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posted on
02/17/2004 4:18:39 PM PST
by
MeekOneGOP
(The Democrats believe in CHOICE. I have chosen to vote STRAIGHT TICKET GOP for years !!)
To: onyx
Appreciate the encouragement, but I'm about to go nuts trying to keep up with all these new posts to link. Still, it's better to have too many than too few.
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posted on
02/17/2004 4:23:54 PM PST
by
backhoe
(Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the TrackBall into the Sunset...)
To: MeekOneGOP; backhoe; Hon
You're all three carrying the load. But what a lovely load it is. Kerry will be sorry he ever mentioned his Vietnam service.
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posted on
02/17/2004 4:51:50 PM PST
by
onyx
(Your secrets are safe with me and all my friends.)
To: Hon
Good work. Keep it up.
To: onyx
Kerry will be sorry he ever mentioned his Vietnam service. Hey ! I was watching Brit Hume's Special Report on FOX News tonight. I heard Mara Liasson mention Reg's pic of Kerry/Fonda that got nixed here. You know, the 'AP' photo he did on the protest/rally.
Fred Barnes was quick to point out that that was not out of the White House or the RNC, but from the Internet ! haha ! (No specific mention to FR though).
Anyway, I thought that was interesting.
Now for a question for you (and anyone that might want to comment). Have ANY of the mainstream/lamestream media mentioned Kerry's activity with the VVAW ??
I'm guessing that Rather/Jennings/Brokaw, etc. either haven't mentioned it or have dissed it. I don't watch the Alphabet News Stations anymore so don't know what they are reporting.
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posted on
02/17/2004 5:12:50 PM PST
by
MeekOneGOP
(The Democrats believe in CHOICE. I have chosen to vote STRAIGHT TICKET GOP for years !!)
To: MeekOneGOP
"Now for a question for you (and anyone that might want to comment). Have ANY of the mainstream/lamestream media mentioned Kerry's activity with the VVAW ??"
No. None at all. It almost caught on, when we came up the real Fonda Kerry picture and what they were doing in Valley Forge. But that got stepped on by the hoax photo and then Drudge Polier story.
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posted on
02/17/2004 5:17:42 PM PST
by
Hon
To: Hon
Hillary was also involved with some killer Black Panther guy, wasn't she??? What's with these idiot Democrats that THESE slime are their leaders??
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posted on
02/17/2004 5:18:05 PM PST
by
Ann Archy
(Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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