Influence of MoveOn undeniable

Boston Globe ^ | February 16, 2004 | Yvonne Abraham

[Cincinatus' Wife]

BERKELEY, Calif. -- The biggest powerhouse in progressive politics had decidedly inauspicious beginnings: an overheard conversation at a local Chinese restaurant, a high-tech chain letter, and $89.

Five years ago, tech entrepreneurs Joan Blades and her husband, Wes Boyd -- whose company gave the world the flying-toaster screen saver -- were eating lunch and listening to a group at a nearby table lamenting the time and energy wasted on the President Clinton-Monica Lewinsky scandal. Blades and Boyd decided to start a petition urging Congress to forgo impeachment, censure Clinton instead, and move on. They e-mailed it to their friends, asked them to pass it on, and paid $89 to set up a website where people could register their support.

[samtheman]

FR trumps it in Spades!

By what measure? What stats?

[samtheman]

Good points.

[sauropod]

MoveOn = hypocrites.

[arasina]

Today, the organization has 1.7 million members -- as many as the Christian Coalition at its height.

I found this sentence to be very revealing. Sort of a taunting "take that, you stupid Christians!"

MoveOn.org --- sprung from the Father of Lies --- not exactly "grassroots" --- more like "pitroots."

[Hillarys Gate Cult]

but they are hardly a 1.7 million member grass roots organization

True. Lurking at leftist sites is where I learned how to stuff online polls. Not that I want to, just that they seem to be proud of it.

[MeekOneGOP]

Yep ! And then there was their involvement in blocking
the Texas Redistricting - which is sailing along just fine !

[cyborg]

move on...right over a cliff

[NutCrackerBoy]

Moveon.org is an innovation of a progressive movement in American politics that will continue to be influential for decades. The movement is both grass-roots and funded by billionaires.

Remember the prediction that Al Gore endorsing Howard Dean would pay off for Gore in exactly the way Nixon's endorsement of Goldwater in 1964 did? The degree of success that the Conservative movement has had, born of the anger that propelled Goldwater, may in the future be enjoyed by this new movement, born in the anger that propelled Dean. Just because Goldwater won the nomination, but lost the 1964 election in a landslide, whereas Howard Dean did not even win the 2004 nomination does not mean that this analogy will not be incredibly telling.

You cannot prevent such movements from coming to fruition, but you should try to counter them as effectively as you can. Never think that these people are not smart.

[Hildy]

We don't have an equivalent, because we don't have Hollywood celebrities with cash to throw away giving us any.

[The Bat Lady]

and not one mention of the almost YEAR that MoveOn.org was on the front page of the communist party website as their action button link.

I also think it that many members are just signed up for emails.

Move On SOROS

[NutCrackerBoy]

We don't have an equivalent, because we don't have Hollywood celebrities with cash to throw away giving us any.

Of course, W. does have a $200M war chest, a good part coming from corporate donors, as the liberal media reports incessantly. But a lot of Republican money does come from small donors.

Anyway, progressive causes appeal to people with disposable income. They want to use their money to change the world. The analog of moveon.org for conservatives is more of a reactionary cause. How many wealthy conservatives with disposable income become energized to combat these nutty progressive causes? Something like school choice would be a worthy cause, but I guess it doesn't appeal in the same way to someone who has money and wants to use it to gratify their messiah complex.

[samtheman]

I don't want to prevent movements from coming to fruition.

What I would like to see happen is the people here at FR get more organized.

We are in agreement, but we are not very organized.

[Rebelbase]

"It has no army and certainly isn't as influencial as FreeRepublic"

My first hand experience with Moveon sheep was at the coffeehouse screening of the WMD documentary they put out back in October.

The crowd was group of hippiefied yuppies, leftover 60's AARP types, gays, lesbians and Academic elitists....the very folks who are going to vote left and green no matter what.

All Moveon has done is provide a venue for these factions to come together under the rainbow of hate for the right.

[MeekOneGOP]

Moveon.org is an innovation of a progressive movement in American politics that will continue to be influential for decades. The movement is both grass-roots and funded by billionaires.

The Soros Threat

The Capitalist Threat
(1997 article by Soros)

SOROS SNACKING ON SIDE DISHES
Soros the Adulterer)

FR Search for Keyword Soros

FR Search for Keyword George Soros

[Brian Allen]

<< Never think that these people are not smart. >>

I never say never.

And nor do I confuse the occasional appearance of evidence that a member of the lunatic left-wing-fringe-dwelling pseudo-intellectual psychotic verbalized-bowel-bubbles-brigades is demonstrating a degree of lizard-brained animal cunning with the idea any one of the evil bastards is "smart."

Dangerous to a man, it is true.

But, also to a man -- but the world's most deadly dangerous dullards.

[maica]

If Freepers want to compare this website with Moveon, you can click on the link on FRs home page, almost down at the bottom of the page

Free Republic traffic ranks at 1,246
Yahoo ranks number 1 (most visited)
Google ranks 3
Ebay ranks 4 or 5
Moveon ranks at 4,841

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Page views rank:
FR 2,119
Moveon 24,133

I have the same opinion of who make up the membership of moveon as you do; they populate the anti-war rallies; and they are lost in the past. That is why Howard and his message did not resonate when he got to Iowa and had to engage average human beings - not these hardcore hippies

[CalKat]

Censure was a lesser punishment than impeachment. Once Clinton was impeached, the issue of censure was moot.

[weegee]

BUMP

The media has known who they were all along. The website got revised. At one point they played their hand and listed their goals and issues. They clearly identified themsleves with socialists.

[Always Right]

The media has known who they were all along. The website got revised. At one point they played their hand and listed their goals and issues.

Liberals always lie about who they are. Liberals are ashamed to be liberals.

[weegee]

Impeachement scared the MoveOn folks because they did not want Bill Clinton removed from office. They CLAIMED that he needed to be rebuked with censure, that what he had done was gravely serious.

There was as much a legal provision for Bill Clinton's censure after impeachement as there was before (that is to say, NO legal provision for it).