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Libyan Arms Papers Are Linked to China:Nuclear Secrets Passed Through Pakistan
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| Joby Warrick and Peter Slevin
Posted on 02/14/2004 8:35:39 PM PST by milestogo
Libyan Arms Papers Are Linked to China
Nuclear Secrets Passed Through Pakistan
By Joby Warrick and Peter Slevin
Washington Post Staff Writers
Sunday, February 15, 2004; Page A01
Investigators have identified China as the origin of nuclear weapons designs found in Libya last year, exposing yet another link in a chain of proliferation that passed nuclear secrets through Pakistan to other countries in Asia and the Middle East, according to government officials and arms experts.
The bomb designs and other papers turned over by Libya have yielded dramatic evidence of China's long-suspected role in transferring nuclear know-how to Pakistan in the early 1980s, they said. The designs were later resold to Libya by a Pakistani-led trading network through a nuclear trading network that is now the focus of an expanding international probe, added the officials and experts, who are based in the United States and Europe.
The packet of documents, some of which included text in Chinese, contained detailed, step-by-step instructions for assembling an implosion-type nuclear bomb that could fit atop a large ballistic missile. They also included technical instructions for manufacturing components for the device, the officials and experts said.
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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: china; khan; krl; libya; proliferation
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To: milestogo
"Did the Chinese make a huge mistake in sharing technology with Pakistan? Sure. Did we make a mistake by looking the other way in the 1980s when Pakistan was developing the bomb? Yes," Wolfsthal said.
Sounds like to me they did it on purpose. From their standpoint maybe it was no mistake.
To: yonif
Kind of weird that China is supporting Islamic terrorist states and fighting Islamists in their own country as well. Not weird because they've never been fighting Islamists.
They have fought Uighurs who are not Islamist and are most like Turkey.
They have "fought" them because the communists took over their nation and did what communists do to people and they tried to stand up to the communists.
Interestingly in China there were mosques that after 911 supported bin Laden and al Qaeda and displayed banners supporting the attacks and also street demonstrations in support of the attacks. These were not Uighur or separatist mosques. They were "patriotic' mosques.
The Chinese communists are and have long been allied with and supported the usual Middle eastern regimes and especially Arafat and the PLO.
China is the main benefactor for Iran's nuclear weapons program as well.
The communists traditionally shared the Islamist hatred for the US and other free democratic societies. They also support them on purpose (ege proliferation) to diffuse the US military and other resource so that China would have less to overcome if they ever wanted to do something the US would need to counter.
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posted on
02/15/2004 12:19:05 AM PST
by
tallhappy
(Juntos Podemos!)
To: Squantos; yonif; Jeff Head
yonif:
This will weaken the US greatly in terms of the huge extention of its resources and economy... That might be a miscalculation on their part, however. Anything that mobilizes us makes us stronger. The problem is to keep us on the ready.
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posted on
02/15/2004 2:01:13 AM PST
by
risk
To: tallhappy; Enemy Of The State; AmericanInTokyo; TigerLikesRooster; yonif; Cincinatus' Wife; ...
The Chinese communists are and have long been allied with and supported the usual Middle eastern regimes and especially Arafat and the PLO. Machiavellian bump
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posted on
02/15/2004 2:06:25 AM PST
by
risk
To: yonif
Well, business is business.
To: milestogo
It doesn't make sense that Libya was ahead of Iraq in the nuke programs.
To: Dave Elias
The price just went up, I think.
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posted on
02/15/2004 3:17:19 AM PST
by
risk
To: AUH2OY2K
While China engages in proliferation, President Bush stands by her side in condemning Taiwan's independence referendum. The United States is not willing to begin a war with China over Taiwan in which millions of people would likely perish. Sorry if that spoils your breakfast plans.
To: milestogo
As far as the liberal press is concerned it's a "who cares?" no matter what Bush does. Look at USA Today -- they are still pushing the National Guard nonsense and saying "questions linger" -- more Michael Moore. HOW CAN WE GET THIS TO STOP? We're back to the press covering Congressman Condit while the terrorists plan to attack the WTC. No matter what Bush does, the liberal press is determined to trash him. No matter what Kerry does or has done, the liberal press is determined to give him a pass.
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posted on
02/15/2004 4:06:26 AM PST
by
jrlc
(Just for Kerry - STOP THE BUSH BASHING)
To: jrlc; kellynla; Rabid Dog
At some point, we have to have faith in the American people. Even Californians recalled a governor. (Although I'm wondering if Arnie's no better than Gray Davis at saying "no" to the politburo these days...)
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posted on
02/15/2004 4:12:24 AM PST
by
risk
To: risk
Late night or early morning? LOL Whatever the case might be "risk" I believe you attached this response to the wrong article posted. LOL But I understand what you're saying. What has happened is that we have elected a RINO(as I was trying to convince FReepers for months during the campaign) but I didn't do a good enough of a job. Now as I predicted we are going to pay the con$equence$!
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posted on
02/15/2004 4:27:05 AM PST
by
kellynla
("C" 1/5 1st Mar Div. 1969 &70 U.S.M.C. Semper Fi)
To: kellynla
Up late, and it's the correct thread -- I'm saying that Kali proved that even the most liberal state can manage to see the light. So hopefully they'll see the President Bush is the right choice in 2004. RINO or not, Arnold was not elected to take out $15 billion loans to pay for massive waste in Sacramento in my name. I wonder if it's time to launch a recall drive just to remind him how he got into office?
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posted on
02/15/2004 4:49:56 AM PST
by
risk
To: risk
gotcha...LOL well ya better get some sack time! I'll ping ya to another article I posted yesterday regarding RINOld and exactly what you're talking about.
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posted on
02/15/2004 4:52:22 AM PST
by
kellynla
("C" 1/5 1st Mar Div. 1969 &70 U.S.M.C. Semper Fi)
To: FreeAtlanta
I am at the point that if one of our cities gets nuked, we should take out every Chinese, Russian, European and Middle-east city You can't be serious? Russia and China? That's it then, dude.
And I certainly think an ultimatum is at least in order before we start vaporizing Muslim capitals wholesale and killing millions of people. Cause that's pretty much it then too.
This is what we're fighting this war to avoid. How can you not understand that?
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posted on
02/15/2004 5:07:33 AM PST
by
znix
To: milestogo
<< Libyan Arms Papers Are Linked to China:Nuclear Secrets Passed Through Pakistan >>
How long before the current proliferation is sheeted home to where it really belongs -- squarely with the Peking-based "china" gang's "'man' in Washington," Mlister Kling Tong?
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posted on
02/15/2004 5:46:05 AM PST
by
Brian Allen
("I don't belong to no organized political party -- I'm a Republykin!" - With Apologies to J Robinson)
To: maui_hawaii
No one here should be shocked. Not a one of us. Its been going on for years. About 15 years ago my father said to me "one of these days there's going to be another world war, and it's going to be the Chinese and the Islamics versus us". I kind of discounted it at the time, but no more. He's a smart man.
LQ
To: Mia T
fyi
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posted on
02/15/2004 7:18:42 AM PST
by
jla
To: maui_hawaii
"Again, this was reported again and again. No one here should be shocked. Not a one of us. Its been going on for years."(maui_hawaii)
I agree with you. The writing was on the wall for decades. This seems to be some hard evidence.
Question is, what will we, The USA, do now? We can not continue on this course we are on with china much longer. china is a rogue nation on a dangerous path.
It will be interesting to see what happens with this report in the next couple of days. It can not be swept under the rug I hope.
To: yonif
The support was in 1980...... today is 2004
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posted on
02/15/2004 7:21:59 AM PST
by
bert
(Have you offended a liberal today?)
To: risk; Grampa Dave; Poohbah
Up late, and it's the correct thread -- I'm saying that Kali proved that even the most liberal state can manage to see the light. So hopefully they'll see the President Bush is the right choice in 2004. RINO or not, Arnold was not elected to take out $15 billion loans to pay for massive waste in Sacramento in my name. I wonder if it's time to launch a recall drive just to remind him how he got into office? The election of Arnold showed that a majority of Kalifornians figured out three things: (1) the sixties are almost over (2) we are all living in a 911 world and (3) Kali is so much closer to China than the rest of the US.
If you think we don't need missile defense, think again.
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posted on
02/15/2004 7:22:03 AM PST
by
jriemer
(We are a Republic not a Democracy)
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