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Conservatives Need to Get Real
The Intellectual Conservative ^ | 02 February 2004 | Scott Shore

Posted on 02/11/2004 11:00:20 AM PST by Lando Lincoln

While President Bush may not be a conservative’s perfect president, the alternative should shake any discontents to active support of the President.

As a conservative, I agree with most of the criticism that has been leveled at President Bush amongst Republicans and conservatives. While I support the President’s foreign and defense policies, I think that the Administration has tried to do the impossible—preempt the Left on their own issues. Republicans were not put on this earth to increase the size of government, create massive new programs like Medicare, spend billions of dollars on AIDS in Africa, fund the UN renovation, expand the Federal role in education or pursue a reckless policy of granting amnesty to illegal foreigners working in the US. None of these initiatives by the President will, in the end, take votes from the Democratic core base. Democrats are much better and far more willing to outspend any Republican program that expands the Welfare State. The strong suit of Republicans is limited government, lower taxes, individual responsibility and strong national defense. Karl Rove may be right that some of the President’s big government initiatives may neutralize some independents. In any case, conservatives could have hoped for much more in a Washington where Republicans control both the White House and Congress.

Having said all that, I intend to do whatever I can to reelect President Bush. The reason is simple. The alternative is unthinkable. A tax increase by rolling back the President’s much needed tax relief will not go to reduce the deficit but to fund massive new social programs, especially some form of universal national health care system. The stimulus of tax relief will be gone and the deadweight of new taxes and government program will lead to a much larger deficit. Moreover, the hue and cry over the deficit is only logical if the deficit grows as a percentage of GDP over a period of years. Economic recovery can shrink the deficit in a relatively short time -- provided there is no new spending. A Democrat will give us the worst of both worlds -- higher taxes and higher spending.

A Democratic economic policy is also lethal to the American middle class and small business. The repeal of most taxes to the “wealthy” proposed by the Democrats are really to two-income families that are just getting by and are clearly the backbone of the middle-class and small business owners who pay income tax; their business is not a corporation but a family business that is a sole proprietorship. An increase in dividend taxation or capital gains will put the financial markets in a tailspin and further retard the growth of new or expanded business activity.

Universal health care has an interesting twist that few seem to be discussing. If people are concerned about possible invasions of privacy because of the Patriot Act, imagine the access to private information available to Big Brother when he gets his hands on your medical records. Once the government is subsidizing our health, how long will it take before certain health lifestyles or diets become a matter of government concern over its citizens? Should we expect a universal health care system to deliver the same value as our compulsory educational system? In fact, the Democrats are likely to create an even greater rift between the Haves and Have-Nots in healthcare by allowing only the wealthiest Americans to pay for private services. Besides this, universal health will either bankrupt the economy since the demand for healthcare is virtually without limit or it will require the government to ration healthcare. Do we really want the delivery of healthcare to become a matter of political bargaining? Imagine the hypocrisy of those who are adamant that the relationship between a doctor and patient is sacrosanct when it comes to abortion, but would make almost all medical procedures a matter of public policy mandates in the future. Imagine your worst nightmare of an HMO and then increase that exponentially and you begin to get the real meaning of Universal Health Care. As for the eventual bill for this service, look to the past at all other federal entitlement programs. To make matters worse, no Democrat is going to support Medical Practice Tort Reform which is contributing to the skyrocketed growth of healthcare costs.

How will Democrats deal with other issues of free market choice for individuals? No Democrat supports any level of privatization of Social Security for retirement. There is no support for school vouchers or alternatives to the monopoly of the public school system. Finally there is no support for private Health Savings Accounts among the Democrats. While Republicans will at least look for market-based solutions to public policy issues, the unions and bureaucratic constituencies of the Democrats virtually insures no such innovation.

On the matter of illegal immigration, the Democrats are more likely to pass a liberal new amnesty program than any GOP administration. The reason is that the Hispanic community seems to be “in play” and this is one constituency the Democrats really need to lock up in order to strengthen their position on the West Coast and in the Southwest.

One can only imagine the kind of social activist judges and Supreme Court justices that would be appointed by the Democratic nominee. The Federal Judiciary will begin to resemble the lunacy of the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco. Can any responsible citizen sit home and allow the judiciary to lunge to the Left? This alone should energize conservatives. The dismantling of all religious tradition or symbolism in public life is likely to continue with a Democratic President and a liberal judiciary.

The final issue is one of national security. Certainly no one can believe that a Democratic administration will strengthen our intelligence and defense capabilities. It was under Democratic administrations that the CIA and other intelligence agencies became decimated and hand-tied. The Democrats have almost unanimously voted against nearly all major new weapons systems. At a time when we are in fact living in a Third World War, we can not go from a Churchill to a Chamberlain. It is disingenuous for the Democrats to glob onto intelligence deficiencies when they are largely the culprit for lack of human intelligence or material resources in the important area of espionage. In fighting a terrorist enemy, preemption is the natural policy and that requires intelligence first and foremost.

While President Bush may not be a conservative’s perfect president, the alternative should shake any discontents to active support of the President. Moreover, in the area of determining the security threat to the West and taking action, the President may go down as one of our greatest leaders. For the sake of the hope of more prudent domestic policy, judicial restraint and national security, there is really no choice. As for much of the domestic agenda, can we afford to sacrifice the good for the perfect?

Scott Shore is a political commentator and management consultant in Providence, Rhode Island.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
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To: My2Cents
That is, indeed, what I'd like to see happen.
61 posted on 02/11/2004 12:27:40 PM PST by Sloth (We cannot defeat foreign enemies of the Constitution if we yield to the domestic ones.)
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To: Henrietta
Come on, Henrietta. Flaunting your so-called "principles" are the last vestiges of pouting unappeasables --- the my way or the highway types.

It's the democrat or President Bush. Try thinking SCOTUS appointments and the democrats' allegiance to the UN. We cannot afford to fight terrorism on the UN's terms.



62 posted on 02/11/2004 12:28:27 PM PST by onyx (Your secrets are safe with me and all my friends.)
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To: Henrietta
"2008? We'll have to see."

I hate to break this to you, but the only way Bush can run in 2008 is if he loses in 2004...

I meant the Republican party...

63 posted on 02/11/2004 12:29:52 PM PST by eyespysomething (There is no threat. The Communists are not about to take over our McDonald hamburger stands. JFK '71)
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To: Wolfstar
As is always the case with you fringe reactionaries, you can't sustain an argument on the merits without quickly descending into a huff about how principled you are and how much the other guy lacks principles.

As usual, you GOP versions of Eleanor Clift can't defend the indefensible and quickly resort to labeling principled Conservatives as "fringe".

Way to lose even more votes, loser.

64 posted on 02/11/2004 12:30:24 PM PST by Jim Cane (Vote Tancredo in '04)
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To: Sloth
Then we're agreed. We'd all win!
65 posted on 02/11/2004 12:31:09 PM PST by My2Cents ("Well...there you go again.")
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To: KantianBurke; George W. Bush

Yawn. Yall have never liked President Bush.

Your votes won't be missed, because he never had them!
You're both insignificant.
66 posted on 02/11/2004 12:31:29 PM PST by onyx (Your secrets are safe with me and all my friends.)
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To: Wolfstar
"As is always the case with you fringe reactionaries, you can't sustain an argument on the merits without quickly descending into a huff about how principled you are and how much the other guy lacks principles. How convenient. Lacking common sense and anything but silly rhetoric with which to make your case, I supposed you do need to at least pretend you have the high ground."

Oh, my...now I'm a fringe reactionary! Just because you don't think my arguments have merit (because you disagree with them) does not mean my arguments lack merit. If you can't stand the idea that others don't agree with your Broken Glass Republican stance, then maybe, for the sake of lowering your blood pressure, you really should move on to another thread.

It defies common sense to keep voting for GWB when he's not giving us what he promised, and yet you call those of us who will likely withhold our votes lacking in common sense? That's rich...

Being principled doesn't involve "silly rhetoric" (whatever that means; I'm sure you just threw that in in the middle of your silly huff about how we all think ourselves so principled). It involves having principles and sticking to them.

So get some.
67 posted on 02/11/2004 12:32:12 PM PST by Henrietta
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To: Wolfstar
Tell me what those "conservative principles are." Then we might have something to discuss.

OK. Among fundamental conservative principles, I'd include:

1.) A desire for a smaller, less intrusive federal government which spends less money.

2.) Respect for the U.S. Constitution.

There are others, but that's a starting point.

68 posted on 02/11/2004 12:32:43 PM PST by Sloth (We cannot defeat foreign enemies of the Constitution if we yield to the domestic ones.)
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To: Wolfstar
There is NO MIDDLE GROUND in this election.

Bosh. Hard-sell hysteria.

If you tell me "You're either with me or against me", then I'm against you.

69 posted on 02/11/2004 12:33:01 PM PST by Grut
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To: Henrietta
Lady, I don't give a rat's butt what you do with your vote. But don't you ever, EVER get the idea that I don't like what President Bush is doing. I am proud to support this President. He has done more to earn my vote in three years than any two presidents I can name, and that includes the beloved Ronald Reagan.

Just so it is CRYSTAL clear where I stand, let me repeat something I wrote on another thread yesterday:

Sometimes I get so furious about this sort of slimeball tactic by the Dem/left — and the willingness by many on the right to play along and pile on — that a perverse part of my nature kicks in. At those times, I want to throw up my hands and yell:

FINE! Let's all turn the country over to another Vietnam-era hippie, anti-war leftist, globalist dolt who'll go around apologizing for America at every stop, and who'll beg the "international community" for permission to wipe his ass after he poops. What Bill Clinton did to this country apparently isn't enough. We have more work to do to prove to the Osama bin Ladens of the world that we really are a paper tiger. We need more Osama bin Laden types on video laughing at our weakness and plotting our destruction.

Sure, fine, all you Republcans, "real" conservatives and perpetual fence-sitters, go ahead! Show just how craven and callow you are. Abandon this President, who's done nothing to deserve it. Go ahead and put Jane Fonda's 60's ear soul-mate in the White House. Drive a stake through the heart of this experiment called the United States. Just don't ever expect me to agree with you, or to ever forgive you, or to ever again support any one of your causes or complaints. Take your harangues elsewhere, 'cause I ain't listening anymore.

70 posted on 02/11/2004 12:33:22 PM PST by Wolfstar (A self-confident cowboy nation, or a Kerrified nation. Your choice.)
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To: Lando Lincoln
I'm with you. I'm as annoyed as anyone with GW's domestic policies, which have been mostly designed to steal issues from the Democrats. This mostly means enacting their policies before they do it themselves.

Of course with a 50-50 country, and a 50-50 congress, with at least half a dozen Repubs guaranteed to vote Democrat on any issue, you can only rule if you manage to get at least a handful of Democrats to cross the line your way. That is the conundrum. Our problem isn't that Bush is not conservative enough, our problem is that if he were conservative enough, he would never have been elected in the first place. Our problem is that at least half of our neighbors do not believe in the things we believe in, and fewer do as time goes on.

But Gore would not have rejected the Kyoto Treaty. Gore would not have rejected the International Criminal Court's jurisdiction over US agents. Gore would not have acted against the UN's will in Iraq and Afghanistan. Gore would not have overthrown Saddam. He would probably not have overthrown the Taliban. He would most likely have continued the previous policy of treating guerilla attacks as a criminal matter, and would probably tried to have handled it all through the Hague.

Saddam would be in his palace, Khadaffi would be building his nukes, we would still be tied to the Saudis in order to continue our failing policy of containing Saddam when even our allies no longer respected the containment.

If Kerry takes office all of those things will happen. The UN will direct our foreign policy, and our troops. Our troops will be within the jurisdiction of Belgian and Dutch and Spanish judges. The UN which has proven itself inept in Rwanda, the Congo, and the Balkans will be placed in charge of Iraq and the Baath will return to power within his first term of office.

As for the rest, the domestic issues that drive me nuts, there is nothing to be done unless and until I am able to send a Republican senator to Washington from my state, which is impossible because I am well in the minority here, ideologically speaking. So GW will have to work with the tools we send him.
71 posted on 02/11/2004 12:34:05 PM PST by marron
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To: My2Cents; azhenfud
The importance of getting 60 seats in the Senate is that it is the political equivalent of driving a stake through the heart of the Democrats.

Of course, because the goal of 'winning back the Senate' just wasn't enough. Let's say I go in and blindly vote straight Republican ticket in November. No thought, just the blind pulling down of a lever based on the alphabet. We get all Republicans nationwide to do that and you get your 60 seat majority.

And the behemoth called the national government continues to grow at an ever expansive rate in the continuing Republican saga of 'stealing the issues' (read passing an entitlement program that puts even liberals to shame) away from Democrats. We know this will happen because they have been in control of the Legislative branch as well as the Executive. And it hasn't stopped, it's increased. What's going to be your excuse then?

72 posted on 02/11/2004 12:34:06 PM PST by billbears (Deo Vindice.)
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To: George W. Bush
Exactly. Obviously, by their actions, they don't think they need conservative votes to get reelected. They don't need us but they want us, for the same reason they wanted John Gault.

But Rove convinced them that they could finally dump the social conservatives and religious conservatives in one fell swoop and find liberal replacement voters.

73 posted on 02/11/2004 12:34:48 PM PST by DManA
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To: George W. Bush
Exactly. Obviously, by their actions, they don't think they need conservative votes to get reelected. They don't need us but they want us, for the same reason they wanted John Gault.

But Rove convinced them that they could finally dump the social conservatives and religious conservatives in one fell swoop and find liberal replacement voters.

74 posted on 02/11/2004 12:34:55 PM PST by DManA
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To: onyx
"Come on, Henrietta. Flaunting your so-called "principles" are the last vestiges of pouting unappeasables --- the my way or the highway types. "

I'm very appeasable!! I just want what he promised all of us when I volunteered for his campaign.

Smaller government
Immigration laws that are enforced.
A sunset of the AWB.
Lower taxes (well, we got that one, at least until the results of his spending policies come home to roost!)
75 posted on 02/11/2004 12:35:53 PM PST by Henrietta
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To: Sloth
Even a stopped clock is right twice a day. If Kerry were to say that about some of the people I see posting on FR lately, he'd be absolutely correct on that particular point. I call it like I see it.
76 posted on 02/11/2004 12:37:25 PM PST by Wolfstar (A self-confident cowboy nation, or a Kerrified nation. Your choice.)
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To: Henrietta

You'll come around. The choice is too clear and too damn dangerous for an unwise, or maturbatory 3rd party vote.
77 posted on 02/11/2004 12:37:40 PM PST by onyx (Your secrets are safe with me and all my friends.)
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To: Henrietta
I hear a lot about principles. Here are my principles:

1. The defense of this nation must be the first priority of the president.

2. Our national security will never depend upon permission from another country.

3. The war on terror must be prosecuted on all fronts and as strongly as is possible.

4. Taxes should continue to be cut, and should not be increased.

5. The traditional values of our nation should be upheld by the presidency.

On all of these issues, President Bush is far superior to any of his challengers. Supporting him is not a caving in, but a matter of principle.

The defense of this nation cannot be given over to the democrats. Any action which enables that contingence is foolish if not malicious.

78 posted on 02/11/2004 12:38:11 PM PST by Miss Marple
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To: Henrietta
Masturbatory vote --- I'll learn to proof, I hope.
79 posted on 02/11/2004 12:38:51 PM PST by onyx (Your secrets are safe with me and all my friends.)
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To: Jim Cane
What is a "principled" conservative? If you can define such, then we may have something to discuss. I have often challenged you "real" conservatives to define for me what "real" conservatism is, and not a single one of you has EVER bothered to offer a definition.
80 posted on 02/11/2004 12:41:43 PM PST by Wolfstar (A self-confident cowboy nation, or a Kerrified nation. Your choice.)
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