THE KERRY DOSSIER (post here anything you've uncovered on Kerry)

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"HANOI &*#!!@* JANE'S apology"

The Washington Times - By Bruce Herschensohn, 07/08/2000

Americans are in a hurry to be done with the past and go on to tomorrow. As a clear example of that, pick up the July-August edition of The Oprah Magazine
That magazine includes an interview with Jane Fonda with an introduction by Oprah Winfrey. Ms. Winfrey writes that Jane Fonda is the same Jane who protested the Vietnam War and made some Americans so angry that they labeled her a communist and slapped her with the nickname of Hanoi Jane. Either Ms. Winfrey doesn't remember or didn't know that the reason some Americans thought she was a communist came from direct statements of Ms. Fonda.

On Nov. 21, 1970 she told a University of Michigan audience of some 2,000 students, If you understood what communism was, you would hope, you would pray on your knees that we would some day become communist. At Duke University in North Carolina she repeated what she had said in Michigan, adding I, a socialist, think that we should strive toward a socialist society, all the way to communism.

She didn't merely protest the Vietnam War, as Oprah Winfrey wrote. Jane Fonda took the side of the North Vietnamese. In that recently published interview Jane Fonda states, I will go to my grave regretting the photograph of me in an antiaircraft carrier, which looks like I was trying to shoot at American planes. That had nothing to do with the context that photograph was taken in. But it hurt so many soldiers. It galvanized such hostility. It was the most horrible thing I could possibly have done. It was just thoughtless. I wasn't thinking. I was just so bowled over by the whole experience that I didn't realize what it would look like.

It appears to me as though Jane Fonda is sorry about the photo, but she is not apologizing for her actions that led to the photo since the context of which she speaks is by far worse than the photograph. That photo was taken when she went to North Vietnam in July of 1972 where she not only posed for a photo, but also recorded propaganda broadcasts for the North Vietnamese. Among her statements are these precise quotes:

I'm very honored to be a guest in your country, and I loudly condemn the crimes that have been committed by the U.S. Government in the name of the American people against your country. A growing number of people in the United States not only demand an end to the war, an end to the bombing, a withdrawal of all U.S. troops, and an end to the support of the Thieu clique, but we identify with the struggle of your people. We have understood that we have a common enemy: U.S. imperialism.
And:

I want to publicly accuse Nixon of being a new-type Hitler whose crimes are being unveiled. I want to publicly charge that while waging the war of aggression in Vietnam he has betrayed everything the American people have at heart. The tragedy is for the United States and not for the Vietnamese people, because the Vietnamese people will soon regain their independence and freedom . . .
And:

To the U.S. servicemen who are stationed on the aircraft carriers in the Gulf of Tonkin, those of you who load the bombs on the planes should know that those weapons are illegal. And the use of those bombs or condoning the use of those bombs, makes one a war criminal.
And:

I'm not a pacifist. I understand why the Vietnamese are fighting . . . against a white man's racist aggression. We know what U.S. imperialism has done to our country so we know what lies in store for any third world country that could have the misfortune of falling into the hands of a country such as the United States and becoming a colony . . . You know that when Nixon says the war is winding down, that he's lying.
Within six months our military involvement was over.

I was working for President Nixon at the White House when our men returned from being prisoners of war and I talked with many of them. For refusing to meet with her a naval commander was beaten daily while in a three-foot by five-foot windowless cell, held there for four months. A lieutenant commander was hung by his broken arm attached to a rope, then dropped by the end of the rope time after time as the table he stood on was kicked out from under him. A captain was hung under his elbows from rounded hooks on his cell wall and beaten into unconsciousness with bamboo sticks. Here are a few of the direct quotes that I saved from those days:

Lt. Cmdr. John McCain said,

These people, Ramsey Clark, Tom Hayden, and Jane Fonda, were on the side of the North Vietnamese. I think she only saw eight selected prisoners. I was beaten unmercifully for refusing to meet with the visitors.
Maj. Harold Kushner said,

I think the purposes of Fonda and Clark were to hurt the United States, to radicalize our young people, and to undermine our authority.
Col. Alan Brunstrom said,

We felt that any Westerners who showed up in Hanoi were on the other side. They gave aid and comfort to the enemy, and as far as I'm concerned, they were traitors.
After the U.S.prisoners of war returned and had landed at Clark Field in the Philippines in 1973, Jane Fonda publicly said that they were hypocrites and liars and history will judge them severely.

Jane Fonda has now apologized for a photograph, but she speaks about some unexplained context. The context is the crime. The photograph is merely the visual evidence of the crime.

More on Jane here......http://www.snopes.com/military/fonda.htm

And he looks like a horse, a french horse at that!

I laughed my A$$ off, I had the other pic till I replied.
Then hit post and boom there he was, I came close to losing my cake..

Where can I get that bumper stcker?

How 'bout this...

While researching his recent book on Kerry's war years, "Tour of Duty," Brinkley said he came across several references to the Kerry-Fonda alliance.

"I've seen their names in a University of Wisconsin archive on [Kerry's group, the Vietnam Veterans Against the War]. Their names are on the same mimeograph sheets, where you can see them as principle speakers together."

Someone lightened that area and that fact was posted when he/she reposted the picture.

But in his book the Kerry biographer notes that there were "scores" of old newspaper accounts documenting the Valley Forge event where Fonda called the Nixon administration "cold-blooded killers" and Kerry said that veterans had a special right to protest the war.

While McCain Was In Hanoi Hilton, Kerry Was In Fonda Funhouse

http://cafepress.com/democrats

Here's something I just posted to another thread I thought should be linked here as well. Follow-up discussion found on thread indicated (incl. additional information about Kerry hiring an IPS member named Gary Porter to his staff):
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1076375/posts

Kerry, the Sandinistas, and the Institute for Policy Studies (IPS)
"Covert Cadre: Inside the Institute for Policy Studies" | 1987 | S. Steven Powell

Posted on 02/11/2004 8:20:50 PM CST by Fedora

Hi, all--long-time lurker trying to post my first thread here, so please bear with me if I screw up the formatting or post this in the wrong place :) I've seen threads discussing Kerry's pro-Sandinista stance during the Reagan administration, but didn't notice this particular piece of information, which I thought worth passing on. This is from S. Stephen Powell's "Covert Cadre", an expose of the Institute for Policy Studies (IPS), a pro-Soviet/pro-Cuban think tank founded in the 1960s which was funded by the KGB and linked to the Black Panthers, the leaking of the Pentagon Papers, the Church Committee, etc. Here is something Powell mentions about John Kerry's role in promoting the IPS' pro-Sandinista lobbying efforts during the Reagan administration:

From Chapter 14 of S. Steven Powell, "Covert Cadre: Inside the Institute for Policy Studies", with introduction by David Horowitz, Ottawa, Illinois: Green Hill Publishers, Inc., 1987, ISBN 0-915463-39-3:

Pages 226-227:

When the $14 million aid package for the contras came up in spring 1985, Congress initially voted it down. Many congressmen said that, besides the PACCA report, reports of human rights violations had influenced them. . .Just forty-eight hours before the vote, Sens. Tom Harkin (D-Iowa) and John Kerry (D-Mass.) traveled to Nicaragua. Their celebrated meetings with Sandinista junta leaders, which captured the headlines and helped sway Congress, were arranged by Peter Kornbluh, a fellow at IPS. Within a week the Sandinista president, Daniel Ortega, flew to Moscow and secured $200 million in Soviet aid. Shocked and embarrassed, Congress reversed gears and granted $27 million in humanitarian aid to the contras.

Page 243:

IPS often acts as the ideological center and hub of activism of the autonomous groups in the [pro-Sandinista "CISPES"] Latin network. For instance. . .in early 1985 IPS brought together various players in the Latin network to compile "the Reagan record of deceit and illegality on Central America." "In Contempt of Congress" was a mishmash of contradictory data and not particularly persuasive. But then it was not intended to persuade, but to confuse and sow distrust of the Reagan administration. As with the PACCA report, it got wide circulation in Congress. Sen. Tom Harkin (D-Iowa) offered his praise for it and Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.) called it "essential reading for every American who remembers Vietnam or Watergate." [Footnote cites: "In Contempt of Congress" (Washington, D.C.: Institute for Policy Studies, 1985), p. 70.]

Might be interesting if someone could dig up a copy of "In Contempt of Congress" and see if Kerry's mentioned or quoted there.

While I'm on this subject I'll mention two possibly-related pieces of info I've been looking into but haven't had a chance to write into a good summary for posting yet. One is Kerry's relationship at Yale with Harvey H. Bundy III. Bundy was a relative of an earlier Harvey Bundy, a close associate of Chief Justice Felix Frankfurter, who played a key role during the FDR/Truman years in setting up the Communist Party apparatus in Washington and in advancing the career of Soviet agent Alger Hiss. Harvey's son William--apparently Harvey H.'s uncle, from what I've gathered--contributed to Hiss' defense fund (and recently wrote a book attacking Nixon's foreign policy, "A Tangled Web: The Making of Foreign Policy in the Nixon Presidency"). William's brother McGeorge, who worked on the NSC under Kennedy and Johnson, had an aide named Marcus Raskin who co-founded the IPS at about the same time Harvey H. was rooming with Kerry at Yale. Kerry's website describes how he met Harvey H. and mentions, "One summer, Kerry and Bundy went to Europe, one trying hard to keep up with the irrepressible other. They drove all night to visit an acquaintance in Switzerland, arriving at dawn with hours to kill." (http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/clips/news_2003_1009e.html) Other sites describe how the Bundy family influenced Kerry's descision to go to Vietnam. It might prove enlightening to explore what role the Bundys and IPS may have played in this early stage of Kerry's career before he went to Vietnam. I'm particularly curious who Kerry and Bundy went to visit in Switzerland--their trip reminds me of Bill Clinton's college visit to Europe. . .

Also in relation to IPS, Kerry is quoted prominently in an old left-wing book attacking the Contras, Peter Dale Scott and Jonathan Marshall, "Cocaine Politics: Drugs, Armies, and the CIA in Central Ameria" (Berkeley: University of California Press, 1991, ISBN 0-520-07312-6 (alk. paper) /0-520-07781-4 (ppb.), which has some passages implying a close link between Kerry and the Christic Institute, a Cuban intelligence front linked to IPS. I'm in the process of reviewing this; if I find anything noteworthy I'll post it.

Jane Fonda defends Kerry

By MARLON MANUEL
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Published on: 02/11/04

Democratic front-runner John Kerry's Vietnam War protests and President Bush's military service during that distant era were a hot topic on Wednesday.

Radio commentators and Internet posters circulated a 34-year-old photo of Kerry attending an anti-war rally while seated near actress Jane Fonda. (Fonda's trip to Hanoi in 1972 and her opposition to the Vietnam War made her a vilified figure among many veterans.)

The photo from a 1970 Labor Day rally in Valley Forge, Pa., shows Fonda in the foreground, with Kerry, a former Navy lieutenant, a few rows behind. The picture is prominently posted, among other places, on the Web sites of conservative commentators Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity.

Fonda defended Kerry during an interview Wednesday on CNN. "Any attempts to link Kerry to me and to make him look bad with that connection is completely false," Fonda said. "We were at a rally for veterans at the same time. I spoke. Donald Sutherland spoke. John Kerry spoke at the end. I don't even think we shook hands.

"And they're also saying this organization, Vietnam Veterans Against the War, was a Communist organization. This was an organization of men who risked their lives in Vietnam, who consider themselves totally patriotic. And anyone who slams that organization and slams Kerry for being a part of it is doing an injustice to veterans.

"How can you impugn, how can you even suggest that a Vietnam veteran like Kerry, or any of them, are not patriotic? He was a hero there," she added.

Later, in an interview on CNN's "Paula Zahn Now," Fonda blamed "a narrow, extremely conservative, right-wing segment" for circulating the photo and linking Kerry with her. "I don't think it flies with most Americans and I think we are going to see that I'm right there."

More...

One day we'll all look back on this, laugh nervously and change the subject. ; )

LOL

is that Daniel Ortega???

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1072902/posts

Kerry on Iraq in 1998: THE POTENTIAL 1998 ARMED CONFLICT WITH IRAQ(ABC Interview)
ABC THIS WEEK | FEBRUARY 22, 1998

KERRY: "After you've hit him, is he still in power, capable of building weapons again? Every bit of intelligence John and I have says within various periods of time, he can rebuild both chemical and biological. And every indication is, because of his deception and duplicity in the past, he will seek to do that. So we will not eliminate the problem for ourselves or for the rest of the world with a bombing attack.

I am way ahead of the commander in chief, and I'm probably way ahead of my colleagues and certainly of much of the country. But I believe this.

I believe that he has used these weapons before. He has invaded another country. He views himself as a modern-day Nebuchadnezzar. He wants to continue to play the uniting critical role in that part of the world. And I think we have to stand up to that."

HOLY CRAP!!!!!

IT IS REAL!!!!!!

It's in a Boston Globe article!!! http://www.boston.com/globe/nation/packages/kerry/062003.shtml

Indymedia is PROUD OF IT!!!!!!!

http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2004/01/279420.shtml

John Kerry: Hero of Iran-Contra Investigation
author: The Sane Left
John Kerry investigates Reagan's genocidal policies in Central America and nails Oliver North.

John Kerry meets with Nicaraguan President Daniel Ortega in midst of Reagan War
Excerpts of Boston Globe profile on Mass. Senator John Kerry as featured on Democracy Now: Kerry's audacity cost him. Within weeks of taking office in 1985, he was off to Nicaragua, accompanied by reporters on a 36-hour, self-appointed fact-finding mission with another freshman, Democratic Senator Tom Harkin of Iowa. Congressional Democrats had accused the White House of exaggerating the communist threat posed by the Sandinista regime. So the two senators were publicly castigated when -- just days after meeting with Daniel Ortega and other leaders of the regime -- the Sandinistas climbed aboard a plane to Moscow to cement their Soviet ties. Secretary of State George Shultz declared that Kerry and Harkin had been "used" by the Nicaraguans, and he ridiculed them for their naivete in "dealing with the communists." Kerry was called "silly" in the Boston press. ...`In early 1986, people like North were deathly afraid of what Kerry was after," says Tom Blanton, the executive director of the National Security Archive, a research organization in Washington. "There was this pervasive sense of the potential of turning over too many rocks. Worms and insects kept crawling out." You can read the full story from the link below. Also you can go to: http://www.democracynow.org for a full profile of hopefully our next President.

Yes, along with John Kerry and Tom Harkin.

Check out this group that says they are supporting John Kerry... Bobby Muller, President Vietnam Veterans of America Foundation

He decided to fight for fair and just treatment for all veterans by joining the anti-war movement, enrolling in law school at Hofstra and eventually serving as legal counsel for the Eastern Paralyzed Veterans Association. He founded Vietnam Veterans of America (VVA) in 1978 and Vietnam Veterans of America Foundation (VVAF) in 1980.