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Vanity: [FR Poll] If it's Kerry vs Bush how will you vote?
2/7/2003 | FR

Posted on 02/07/2004 4:46:02 PM PST by yonif

I thought because there is a poll on FR that says "If it's Kerry vs Bush how will you vote?" it would be good to start a thread on the matter for people to explain how they voted in the poll, if they choose to do so.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: 2004; bush; elections; gwb2004; kerry; traitorsinourmidst
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To: sweetliberty; nopardons
Well nopardons' typo's don't get her into trouble like mine do *L*
721 posted on 02/08/2004 12:38:18 PM PST by Mo1 (Join the dollar a day crowd now!)
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To: TedsGarage
A vote for Kerry is a vote for Marxism, enjoy it.
722 posted on 02/08/2004 12:44:07 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: MJY1288
"I don't see how John Kerry will win a single state."

What's that saying? "Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers?" John Kerry has no substance and no integrity from all I have seen, but what I see on the left are people blinded by ignorance, hatred or who want somebody who will make them feel good about wallowing in whatever sin or evil they happened to be aligned with. Granted, many of them will be too hungover or otherwise indisposed to actually go to the polls, but never fear...there will be RATs in the wings eager to cast ballots in the names of absent voters.

I have no doubt doubt that Kerry would lose in a landslide if all votes were legitimate and cast by intelligent and informed people, but the democRATs are loathe to allow honest debate and not only work diligently to suppress or distort facts, but also to spread lies and sow discord. Make no mistake; they are political predators whose bloated bellies feed on the emotions of the sheeple, exploiting anger and hatred, ignorance and apathy and narcissistic self-indulgence for the sake of political power. They can never be underestimated.

723 posted on 02/08/2004 12:50:28 PM PST by sweetliberty (To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it.")
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To: nicmarlo
Which part of his base has been completely alienated? Those who want every single policy/issue implemented 100% to their own ideals? Then, nobody will ever please that kind of "base."

You can believe if you want that the only people upset with Bush are the unappeasables. Given that there have been a lot of them at FR over the last two years, that perspective is understandable. However, let me tell you how I see it (and this is, of course, just my opinion and it is based on anecdotal evidence).

I live in Oklahoma, and I work at a Fortune 500 company, where by and large everybody I know in my neighborhood and everyone I work with is a mainstream conservative. Yet, just about every single person that I know has nothing positive to say about Bush (at least on domestic issues) and they are only motivated to vote for him because he is not Kerry or Dean. This is different from 2000. In 2000, myself and the people I associated with (although I lived in the Northeast then) were motivated to vote FOR Bush because we liked him and what he stood for. What I am hearing now from the mainstream people that I associate with (30's, 40's, kids, job, self-described conservative) is what I remember hearing in 1996. In 1996 most of us weren't FOR Dole, we were AGAINST Clinton.

When I observe among the mainstream conservatives that I know the attitude that was prevelant in 1996, rather than 2000, it scares the life out of me.

You can beleive all you want that the only people who have a problem with Bush are the unappeasables. You can beleive all you want that the recent polls showing Bush behind are the result of the primaries. Or, you can consider that perhaps Bush really isn't doing a very good job to motivate mainstream conservatives to vote for him. Perhaps you can consider that Bush's poll declines match EXACTLY with the recent attention give to his spending by CATO and the Heritage Foundation.

While I admire your support of the part and of the president, I do think that a lot of people here are failing to see that there is a true threat of a serious lack of enthusiasm among those who were so enthusiastic about his campaign in 2000.

724 posted on 02/08/2004 12:56:04 PM PST by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along)
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To: Rodney King
part=party. Sorry.
725 posted on 02/08/2004 12:57:32 PM PST by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along)
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To: TedsGarage
I think it's a poor stacking of priorities to deliberately try to divide the government by putting a Dem in the White House on purpose.... to serve what, exactly? Budget is very important, but if we allow it to be the only value we hold dear then we lost all the other values deliberately and can't help but lose "budget" in the end, too.

The last Dem in the White House subjugated our soldiers to the U.N., sold some of our military advantage to China, allowed North Korea to fill it's pockets with nukes, let Saddam smack us around on the International stage making us look very weak, and allowed Osama to go unpunished and growing arrogant enough to put together an army and coordinate 9/11...

It didn't matter how many GOP'ers we had in D.C., we couldn't stop him from doing all of the above as CIC. Any more of this and there won't BE an America TO budget.
726 posted on 02/08/2004 1:29:23 PM PST by Tamzee (EARTH FIRST!!! We'll stripmine the other planets later...)
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To: Indy Pendance
Wonderful post #73! I can't cut and paste a favorite part or parts because your commentary was inspired top to bottom...

Thank you for stating it so beautifully!


727 posted on 02/08/2004 1:39:25 PM PST by Tamzee (EARTH FIRST!!! We'll stripmine the other planets later...)
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To: sweetliberty; nopardons; Mo1

728 posted on 02/08/2004 1:45:32 PM PST by Tamzee (EARTH FIRST!!! We'll stripmine the other planets later...)
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To: uglybiker; cyborg
"I'm sure Todd already has a thread going on it."

I think he starts most of the threads over there doesn't he, well him and that "white sands" person? Anybody know who he is?

Cry room

729 posted on 02/08/2004 2:16:59 PM PST by sweetliberty (To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it.")
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To: sweetliberty
hehehehehe
730 posted on 02/08/2004 2:22:43 PM PST by cyborg
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To: uglybiker; Happygal
"Because it's more interesting than yours."

Hehehehe....

731 posted on 02/08/2004 2:53:39 PM PST by sweetliberty (To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it.")
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To: yonif

" That thing" is that I know tons of Jewish people and they ALL vote Marxist. (Except for some Conservative Jews on FR, who I don't know personally. I'm not anti-Jewish, yet, that's my observation.

Where did I say I am undecided between Bush and Kerry? "Undecided" meant I hadn't chosen yet how I will vote among the many choices the poll had.

Post # 4 IIRC, unless someone has hijacked your screenname.

I'm STILL shocked, BTW.

732 posted on 02/08/2004 3:42:56 PM PST by Dec31,1999 (Attention is the flow of Consciousness. Attention is the basis of action.)
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To: Dec31,1999
Post # 4 IIRC, unless someone has hijacked your screenname.

Look at post #4. I said "undecided."

Voting "undecided", meant you didn't know what to choose between all the choices available. Bush and Kerry were not the only choices in the poll.

Try again.

733 posted on 02/08/2004 3:44:38 PM PST by yonif ("If I Forget Thee, O Jerusalem, Let My Right Hand Wither" - Psalms 137:5)
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To: Godebert
How do you live with yourself?

I justify my life by forgiving myself for being ignorant. But on the other hand, I still think Clinton made a better president than the Viagra poster boy would have. Actually, it's a toss up. If the stupid party gives me a similar choice in the future, I will do the same.

Take note: We don't want really old country-club Republicans put forth by the Republican party! The '96 results were the result of the R's sleeping at the wheel, which they often do, which is NO LONGER acceptable; there is too much at stake to COAST.

I hope all repub-lick-cans are listening! (They DON'T call it the STUPID party for no reason.)

That being said, I'm sure there are some viable, Consrvative, electable candidates SOMEWHERE in this great nation of 300 million people who can represent us, in other positions, and in 2008.

In the meantime, I will vote for Bush, and encourage all concened to do so as well. He's a good man, has protected us well, has done the best possible job to revive an ailing economy, which he inherited, and truly wants to preserve our freedoms, as far as I can see. May God bless President Bush!

734 posted on 02/08/2004 4:00:54 PM PST by Dec31,1999 (Attention is the flow of Consciousness. Attention is the basis of action.)
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To: yonif
I don't know, Bud. Sounds like you're mincing words to me. Whatever. Just don't ask us to protect Israel anymore with our youth, OK. Do it yourself. Send your own. Good luck.
735 posted on 02/08/2004 4:16:01 PM PST by Dec31,1999 (Attention is the flow of Consciousness. Attention is the basis of action.)
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To: Dec31,1999
I don't know, Bud. Sounds like you're mincing words to me. Whatever. Just don't ask us to protect Israel anymore with our youth, OK. Do it yourself. Send your own. Good luck.

What's not to understand? Do you agree with me that there were other options on that poll then Bush and Kerry? And who says Israel is the reason I am undecided? US Policy to Israel will not change in the near future, no matter who is in the White House.

736 posted on 02/08/2004 4:18:03 PM PST by yonif ("If I Forget Thee, O Jerusalem, Let My Right Hand Wither" - Psalms 137:5)
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To: yonif
US Policy to Israel will not change in the near future, no matter who is in the White House.

That may or may not be true, I'll grant you. However, if I were an Israeli. I would rather Bush be in charge than Kerry, or any of the Democrats. Keep in mind that as we near the crutial point, the landscape may change. I, for one, would rather trust Bush than Kerry or Dean, which is why I support him. Hope I'm right.

737 posted on 02/08/2004 4:27:18 PM PST by Dec31,1999 (Attention is the flow of Consciousness. Attention is the basis of action.)
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To: Rodney King
You can beleive all you want that the only people who have a problem with Bush are the unappeasables. You can beleive all you want that the recent polls showing Bush behind are the result of the primaries. Or, you can consider that perhaps Bush really isn't doing a very good job to motivate mainstream conservatives to vote for him....

I'm not happy with Bush's spending. I'm not happy with open borders. I'm not happy with illegal aliens being given anything, except, perhaps, a boot.

But what are the alternatives? Rats who'll spend more. Rats whose only goals are power and to destroy the Constitution, place our country's "defenses" into the hands of the UN, raising taxes to fund greater amounts of programs, placing liberals on the bench to usurp the laws made by the people and their elected officials.....

Letters to Bush, stating concerns would be better than not voting for him. Letters to your elected officials would be even better (unless, of course, your elected officials are Hitlery and Schumer).

738 posted on 02/08/2004 5:34:56 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Mo1; sweetliberty; nopardons
MO1 - still making all of those typos? Even with the spell check?

me two?!?!

739 posted on 02/08/2004 9:23:46 PM PST by Diva Betsy Ross (Every heart beats true for the red ,white and blue!)
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To: Diva Betsy Ross
*L* .. well my problem isn't so much that I spell them wrong .. I type in the wrong words
740 posted on 02/08/2004 9:29:36 PM PST by Mo1 (Speaking of Kerry, do we really want a president who injects poison into his skull?)
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