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Al Qaeda again threatens America (Thread 3) Daily Terror Threat
World Tribune ^ | Thursday, February 5, 2004

Posted on 02/05/2004 8:31:17 PM PST by Mossad1967

Edited on 02/09/2004 3:20:18 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

SANAA, Yemen, Jan. 24 (UPI) -- A purported statement by al-Qaida in Yemen warned Saturday of a "major strike" soon in the United States.

The statement, distributed by the Yemeni Tagamoo Party for Reforms, said: "A major strike, a big event will take place in America soon," reminiscent of the Sept. 11 attacks.


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To: NothingMan
Good to see you NM!

the threat from Iraq may have been more imminent than the world will ever know . . and the threat posed by Iran and North Korea is not properly appreciated by most

I believe that also and hope the truth comes out soon for this administration deserves it to! And Iran and NK, we all agree with you on this.

Axis of Evil yes!

Who will Paki go nuclear on?

Watch the unraveling web unearth covert uranium programs of Iran and North Korea

What will the US do?

Fired from North Korea, the TD-2 can hit everything west of a line from Chicago down to El Paso, and the TD-3 (three-stage TD-2) can hit all of US. Fired from Iran or Iraq, the TD-2 can hit east coast cities, TD-3 would cover most of US

And how do we combat this?

301 posted on 02/06/2004 12:45:49 PM PST by JustPiper (D A M N I T O L Take 2 and the rest of the world can go to hell for up to 8 full hours)
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To: swarthyguy
DEBKA-Net-Weekly ’s Gulf sources report launching bases for the new missiles are going up at four places on Iran’s Gulf coast: the northern end at Bandar a-Khomeini opposite the mouth of the Shatt al Arb and facing Kuwait and Bahrain, at Bushehr, site of its nuclear reactor, at the big Bandar Abbas naval base and Revolutionary Guards headquarters, and at Bandar e-Lengeh west of Qeshm Island.

From these installations, Iranian missiles will cover the tanker and merchant ship lanes leading into the Persian Gulf from the Indian Ocean through the Gulf of Aden.

A fifth launching base will be located on the small highly-strategic island of Great Tumb situated just north of the Hormuz Strait at the mouth of the Gulf.


See post #282
302 posted on 02/06/2004 12:47:30 PM PST by JustPiper (D A M N I T O L Take 2 and the rest of the world can go to hell for up to 8 full hours)
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To: SCR1
Not being mailed 'is' a whole new ballgame!
303 posted on 02/06/2004 12:48:14 PM PST by JustPiper (D A M N I T O L Take 2 and the rest of the world can go to hell for up to 8 full hours)
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To: Labyrinthos
"My opinion is not based upon scholarly research or inside information from the spook community, but rather, is based upon reports, articles, and opinions that I've read here and other places, my knowledge of history, informed reason, and reasonable possibilities."

That's good enough for me.

No one has mentioned this, but does anyone of you think that race may play a part in conflicts? I do think it plays a major role. I, for one, think that China and North Korea are a greater threat to the USA than Russia.

304 posted on 02/06/2004 12:48:26 PM PST by labolarueda ("I'd rather speak after my manner and die, than speak in your manner and live." - Socrates)
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To: freeperfromnj
So, should mad cow disease be classified as an STD? :-)
305 posted on 02/06/2004 12:49:11 PM PST by Hegemony Cricket (Dodging the Slings and Arrows of Outrageous Fortune)
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To: Labyrinthos
Bump!
306 posted on 02/06/2004 12:51:37 PM PST by JustPiper (D A M N I T O L Take 2 and the rest of the world can go to hell for up to 8 full hours)
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To: Cindy
Load of links courtesy of our good buddies at Khayma.com...

http://www.khayma.com/wahaat/new.htm
http://www.khayma.com/wahaat/aslami%20__gg.htm
http://www.khayma.com/wahaat/gmat.htm
http://www.khayma.com/wahaat/ghd.htm
http://www.khayma.com/wahaat/adian.htm
http://www.khayma.com/wahaat/dros.htm
http://www.khayma.com/wahaat/katb.htm
http://www.khayma.com/wahaat/gran.htm
307 posted on 02/06/2004 12:56:00 PM PST by LayoutGuru2 (Call me paranoid but finding '/*' inside this comment makes me suspicious)
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To: JustPiper
"Fired from North Korea, the TD-2 can hit everything west of a line from Chicago down to El Paso, and the TD-3 (three-stage TD-2) can hit all of US. Fired from Iran or Iraq, the TD-2 can hit east coast cities, TD-3 would cover most of US"

And how do we combat this?


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A4411-2004Feb1.html
308 posted on 02/06/2004 1:00:26 PM PST by NothingMan
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To: JustPiper; FairOpinion; tubavil; Reactionary; Oorang; TexKat; yonif; Dog; liz44040; Sabertooth; ...
Jihadist Most Wanted Deck

Warning: Graphic Content!!!

309 posted on 02/06/2004 1:04:40 PM PST by LayoutGuru2 (Call me paranoid but finding '/*' inside this comment makes me suspicious)
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To: NothingMan
And then there is this:

Iran's Secret Atomic Program

And this: Pentagon plans operation of a national missile defense system this summer, WASH POST planning to report on Monday, newsroom sources tell DRUDGE... MORE... accelerated schedule would enable President Bush to claim fulfillment of a major 2000 campaign pledge earlier than officials had indicated.

Drudge Report 02/01/04
310 posted on 02/06/2004 1:05:17 PM PST by milkncookies (As Napoleon said, "Never ascribe to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence.")
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To: NothingMan
last 2 articles . . .

"According to some accounts Iraq established a major expeditionary force in Sudan in order to strike Egypt and western Saudi Arabia. In late August 1990, the Iraqi deployment was said to include 14 SCUD-B launchers with several missiles each that were originally deployed along the Red Sea coast across from Yanbu and Jeddah. In early January 1991, the Iraqis were said to have delivered additional SCUD launchers to the armed forces of Sudan, which deployed these launchers in northern Sudan. These SCUDs targeted southern Egypt, including the Aswan High Dam. . . .

According to some accounts, in March/April 1991, Iraqi Deputy Prime Minister Tariq Aziz requested and was granted permission from Sudan's President Umar al-Bashir to move Iraqi chemical weapons and additional SCUD missiles to Sudan in order to circumvent their destruction by the UN. Thus, in the Summer of 1991, as UN inspections became inevitable, Iraq was said to have transferred a large number of SCUDs, estimated at about 400 missiles, and chemical weapons, for "safekeeping" in Yemen and Sudan. . . .

In the later part of 1995 it is claimed that Iraq deployed to Sudan some 50 "advanced SCUD launchers" and a similar number of al-Hussayn missiles. In October 1995, Iranian and Iraqi engineers, including some missile experts, were said to be upgrading an old airfield in East Sudan for the arrival and storage of additional strategic weapons from Iraq. . . .

In late 1999 it was reported that a US intelligence agency reported that North Korea had offered to sell Sudan a factory for assembling Scud missiles. Other reports suggest that in early 2000 a delegation of North Korean technical experts and a military research mission from Baghdad met in Khartoum. With $475 million in Iraqi financing, North Korea is said to be building a missile plant near Khartoum. Although most of this sum would go to North Korea for turnkey construction and facility staffing, Sudan would receive some payment for supporting and hosting the operation. The facility would enable Iraq to refurbish the old missiles stored in Sudan, and to build new longer-range missiles."

(globalsecurity.org)

(and 4 years ago . . .)

Saddam's Sudan?
New York Times; New York; Mar 23, 2000; William Safire


What do you do with a disturbing national security tip from a usually
reliable source? You check it out, of course, with intelligence operatives
who have no ax to grind.

But what do you do when those analysts say that they pondered the report at
interagency meetings and doubt its accuracy -- but it could be true and
bears watching? All I can do is pass along the disputed report with
appropriate caveats.

It was first hinted at six months ago in a paragraph by the well-connected
Bill Gertz of The Washington Times: ''A Pentagon intelligence agency
reported earlier this month that North Korea offered to sell the government
of Sudan an entire factory for assembling Scud missiles.''

That didn't seem to add up, because Sudan is nearly broke and doesn't need
long-range missiles to fight its civil war. Where would the money be found
to finance the missile factory, and who in that area wants the Scuds?

Enter Amir Rashid, Iraq's oil minister and Saddam Hussein's chief procurer
of ballistic missiles.

Two years ago, I'm told, Rashid paid a secret visit to Pyongyang and saw
North Korea's missile marketer, Chon Byong-Ho. Saddam's man also visited the
Chang Gwang Sinyong Corporation, a key world source of illicit arms.

Topic A was Scuds, many of which were secreted by Iraq in Sudan to escape
U.N. detection. A year later, Iraq's chief engineer, Ra'ad Ismail Jamil,
received a North Korean delegation in Baghdad.

Only five weeks ago, says my informant, two delegations arrived in Khartoum,
capital of Sudan. One was a group of North Korean technical experts; the
other was a military research mission from Baghdad.

Their project? The Koreans are said to be working on building a
ballistic-missile plant near Khartoum, with Iraqi financing of $475 million.
Pyongyang gets a big chunk of that for turnkey construction and expert
staffing; Khartoum a smaller percentage for acting as cutout, site protector
and smuggler; and Baghdad gets its old missiles refurbished and new,
longer-range missiles built.

If true, such conspiracy among three rogue nations would spell big trouble.
So I rattled some American intelligence cages; had they heard of this
three-pariah missile deal?

All had. The story (without the recent Khartoum meeting) has been bruited
about for months, including the $475 million figure. It was the subject of
two interagency meetings; the White House was briefed.

The current U.S. assessment is that any Iraqi-financed missile factory
''cannot be confirmed,'' although there is no doubt that North Korea has
been peddling arms in Sudan. ''The report is impossible to stamp out,'' says
a frustrated doubter. Another derogates the story that won't go away as
''rumint'' -- merely rumored intelligence.

Their logical reason for skepticism is that Sudan is heavily infiltrated by
Iranian operatives, who might sabotage or publicize any Iraqi plant. Another
is that newly secure Pyongyang is now in the midst of a charm offensive,
which will soon include the first visit to Washington by a high-level
diplomat since the end of the Korean War. This huge weapons deal would run
counter to that opening.

On the other hand, there is reason for skepticism about the spookery's
skepticism. Eighteen months ago, on indirect evidence later questioned,
President Clinton ordered a cruise missile attack at the Al Shifa
pharmaceutical plant. Our spies may now be super-cautious.

On the third hand, I am inclined to take the rumint seriously because this
method of outsourcing his secret weapons development to a rogue-state
neighbor so neatly fits Saddam Hussein's interest. Also, if true, a secret
Sudanese missile plant financed by Iraqi oil sales would argue cogently
against efforts to appease Saddam by lifting economic sanctions, so avidly
desired by the Jiang-Putin-Chirac cabal at the U.N.

Wait -- this just in. Porter Goss, chairman of the Permanent House Select
Committee on Intelligence, is willing to go on the record: ''We have been
concerned with the development of weapons of mass destruction and their
delivery systems in Sudan, as well as Sudan's ties with North Korea. The
matter is receiving our attention.''



Yemen . . .Sudan . . . Afghanistan . . .

AQ bases in 1990s and offsite facilities for axis regimes . . . AQ is tied to the *axis* not just Iraq

"follow the weapons" (proxy for a proxy)

North Korea . . . Iran . . .Iraq . . .

connect the dots . . .
311 posted on 02/06/2004 1:06:45 PM PST by NothingMan
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To: labolarueda
You can make an argument that it's race but at the same time, the Japanese and Koreans don't like each other, N. and S. Korea harbor animosity for each other and it would be hard to argue that race played even a minor role in the Cold War as well.
312 posted on 02/06/2004 1:16:58 PM PST by milkncookies (As Napoleon said, "Never ascribe to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence.")
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To: milkncookies; JustPiper
Thanks for the link.

North Korea and Iran have been fooling the world. They claimed they only had peaceful nuclear programs, and when caught, they use misdirection to get the international community to focus on the more *overt* plutonium programs (Yongbyon and Bushehr)instead of the *covert* uranium programs (Khan's baby). Iran and North Korea have been negotiating based on inspections of the declared plutonium facilities (Plan "A") while strenuously denying the existence of a uranium program (Plan "B").

The exposure of the Khan network could be the smoking gun that sets in motion a chain of events. Hence, all the posturing . . .

It is akin to the discovery of the secret taping system during Watergate.

The game is up and it is time for everybody to show their cards.
313 posted on 02/06/2004 1:19:08 PM PST by NothingMan
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To: milkncookies; NothingMan
JR Nyquites has reiterated the same logic and question I had requested twice of NothingMan in Thread 2. I still have not seen a response...

Therefore I am posting here for the third and final time...albeit slightly edited for clarity sake


"Tell me one thing... how manytimes in the past two years has the United States embarked on a global thermonuclear exercise aimed specifically at Russia????

The answer is zero. This answer is placed on the right-hand side of the truth scales.

Then tell me how many times in the past two years have Russian's done this to America????

The answer is twice. 2 times. This answer is placed in the left-hand side of the truth scale.

Do you see the heavily weighted scale identifying Russia as a belligerent enemy of the United States? It's so obvious that a blind man can see it."
314 posted on 02/06/2004 1:20:25 PM PST by Sean Osborne Lomax (http://www.HomelandSecurityUS.com)
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To: appalachian_dweller; All
http://abcnews.go.com/wire/US/ap20040206_1462.html

RICIN INVESTIGATIN EXPANDS TO TENNESSEE

The Associated Press

WASHINGTON Feb. 6 — The ricin investigation has expanded to Tennessee and trucker radio shows, but investigators still had no clues about the origin of the poison found in a Senate office, officials said Friday. Searches of Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist's six offices in his home state, plus those in the Capitol complex, were completed Thursday. Investigators have not found the letter or package the ricin may have spilled from, and no new traces of ricin have been discovered, said FBI spokeswoman Debra Weierman.

315 posted on 02/06/2004 1:20:31 PM PST by freeperfromnj
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1073009/posts

Ashtray or nuclear component? Malaysian machinists say it's impossible to say


"Rohaida said SCOPE's services were precision milling and cutting, and its engineers do not have the expertise to know the use of the items they are making. If the company received a similar order to the one SCOPE filled for the Libya shipment, it would have no reason to turn it down. "Milling and cutting is the same today as it was before," she said.

Malaysian authorities say they are satisfied that the components built by SCOPE may have had medical or petrochemical uses. But U.S. and European officials have told AP the components from Malaysia were highly sophisticated and would have few uses other than nuclear enrichment."

316 posted on 02/06/2004 1:29:32 PM PST by FairOpinion (If you are not voting for Bush, you are voting for the terrorists.)
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To: NothingMan
Thanks for all the connect-a-dots! Socrates was known for his way of asking questions or prompting other to ask...you sure have given food for thought. I recall threads on the No Dong and the TD3, and the talk of a spring operation into Pakistan for OBL might really be for the ISI.

"Watch who facilitated the North Korean-Pakistani transfers."

I'm guessing China and UAE. Do you think China is the proxy behind all of this axis or just NK?
317 posted on 02/06/2004 1:32:00 PM PST by Domestic Church (AMDG...)
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To: TexKat
Ah! I thought that was a new article in reference to the bombing.

So my recall was right. Thanks Tex!
318 posted on 02/06/2004 1:36:24 PM PST by Calpernia (http://members.cox.net/classicweb/Heroes/heroes.htm)
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To: SCR1
The possibilty is that the ricin was mailed earlier and the letter was already processed. What ricin was found, was deposited on the automated letter opener.
319 posted on 02/06/2004 1:37:27 PM PST by Domestic Church (AMDG...)
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To: JustPiper
There's a new countdown clock? I'm still about 250 posts behind on thread two.
320 posted on 02/06/2004 1:41:03 PM PST by Oorang ( "If you see a bomb technician running, try to keep up with him." U.S.A.F. Ammo Troop)
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