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Al Qaeda again threatens America (Thread 3) Daily Terror Threat
World Tribune ^ | Thursday, February 5, 2004

Posted on 02/05/2004 8:31:17 PM PST by Mossad1967

Edited on 02/09/2004 3:20:18 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

SANAA, Yemen, Jan. 24 (UPI) -- A purported statement by al-Qaida in Yemen warned Saturday of a "major strike" soon in the United States.

The statement, distributed by the Yemeni Tagamoo Party for Reforms, said: "A major strike, a big event will take place in America soon," reminiscent of the Sept. 11 attacks.


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To: Texas Lizard
Oooooooooooooooooooooooh, you've gone and done it!!!!!!!!
181 posted on 02/06/2004 8:32:09 AM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: milkncookies
I haven't posted it although I've been aware of it for nearly 2 days.

These videos are the ones that analysts have been looking for since late November - the ones that Cloud Enterprise - Abu Osama Al Otaibi, the media relations department of Al Qaeda (I kid you not!) was supposed to release. These videos were supposed to contain activation orders for militants in the field.

I tend ot agree. The videos almost certainly contain hidden messages. My personal opinion is that they also contain the activation codes for the Moscow bombings. (Yes, I've watched the videos; yes, I understand Arabic; and yes, my impressions have been reported to the appropriate authorities.) I've pretty much felt that the fewer people who saw this the better.

Fortunately the video files are so large that combined with the aftermath of the virus attack they have been almost impossible to download for most people. The file sizes are huge. Most of the actual links are not functioning.

182 posted on 02/06/2004 8:32:31 AM PST by StillProud2BeFree
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Mystery truck stopped in Georgia...officials won't say what's going on...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1072804/posts
184 posted on 02/06/2004 8:39:33 AM PST by tmp02
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To: milkncookies; Labyrinthos; All
You, I take it, don't think there is Russian involvement, or at the very least, consider Russia one of the least of our worries. Have I understood correctly? Would you mind elaborating a little more?

In 1979/80 -- Soviet troops and tanks poured across the Border of Afghanistan to prop-up a communist installed government. In the following 8 years, Afghan rebels and jihdists, backed by U.S. dollars and technology, repelled the godless Russian invaders. Bin Laden made his reputation and mark in that struggle.

The former Soviet Union and it totalitarian form of godless communism is completely inconsistent with Islam, which seeks to impose a religious/Islamic rule on its people, and hopes to govern under Islamic law. Russian ties to Saddam are proof of its continued dislike in the 'true" Muslim world. Saddam was a brutal dictator, but first and foremost he was NOT and Islamic true believer. He often used the religion, if at all to his own means. (His brutality against the more religious majority was legend) Again, Islamists saw this connection and eyed Russia with suspicion.

The Russian-Serb connection is well established too. Again, Russians assume an anti-islamic position. And, of course, this the Russians are embroiled in a brutal was with Muslims in Chechnya. Again, using its forces to attack Muslim/Islamic forces.

Just this morning, the Russians were attacked by a suicide bomber in a Moscow subway. Now, if you ask me if certain elements of former Capitalist hating, hard-core Communists don't like America. You bet. Are some of them willing to sell weapons and give info for cash to anyone, including jihadists -- sure. In fact, I am sure there are some old commies sitting in a chat room, probably called unfreerepublic, pining away for the demise of Capitalism, and using age old prejudice, ignorance, and fear to motivate them. But does any of this credibly link the current Russian Government to Terror activities, or to a larger plot to threaten the United States. That conclusion seems inconsistent with the facts.

A far more likely scenario will have the United States and Russia acting in concert against the growing sub-national, yet international, Islamic revolution that threated western culture and modernity itself.

185 posted on 02/06/2004 8:40:19 AM PST by Iron Eagle
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To: milkncookies
" India has the second largest Muslim population in the world next to SA"

Very interesting indeed. I wonder if this was so 50 years ago.
186 posted on 02/06/2004 8:41:25 AM PST by Domestic Church (AMDG...)
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To: Calpernia
New Newsletter came right after I posted this.

NOTICE how the Ukraine goes back and forth referring to Russia and Soviet Union. It implies to me that there are two governing bodies there.


ONE FREE-TRADE DEAL THAT WON'T FREE TRADE

WHEN is a free-trade agreement bad? When the treaty's
underlying purpose is neither about trade nor freedom.

Such a pact - calling for a 'united economic space' - is now
being entered into by Russia, Ukraine, Kazakhstan, and Belarus.

On the surface, a 'united economic space' sounds like something
to applaud. But, sadly, the treaty will only entrench communism's
corrupt and criminal business practices, not increase trade or prosperity.

A huge benefit for the accession countries in preparing
themselves to join the European Union (EU) was that they were forced to
conform to European business, political, and legal norms. The proposed
'united economic space' will also have its own norms - the ways of the
oligarch, the corrupt bureaucrat, the crony capitalist, and the politically
motivated prosecutor.

Does anyone doubt that the jailing of Mr Mikhail Khodorkovsky,
chairman of oil giant Yukos, is politically motivated? I myself have endured
numerous politically inspired investigations and prosecutions of my former
business as a means to drive me out of politics. Can anyone imagine such
a prosecution occurring in the EU?

That Mr Khodorkovsky is spending months in jail before he is
formally charged tells us much about the nature of business, politics,
and law in the nations of the Soviet Union.

In the countries of the 'united economic space', the rule of law
typically means 'I rule, and I am the law'. So, instead of promoting growth,
the 'united economic space' will retard it by discouraging competition and
investment.

Instead of enhancing European stability, it will undermine it by
dividing Europe into the EU's single market and an economic trading area
ruled by arbitrary fiat and decree.

But, as a matter of economic principle, practical diplomacy and
visionary politics, aren't regional free-trade areas at least a step in the
right direction?

After all, countries that scrap tariffs among themselves trade
more and often raise their economic growth rates as a result. Moreover,
free-trade agreements are typically seen as politically valuable: Countries
tied by commerce are supposedly less likely to shoot at each other.

Unfortunately, the 'united economic space' promises no such
benefits.

By definition, it discriminates against countries outside the
club, with which trade will not be liberalised. Members will specialise in
industries in which they lack comparative advantage, undercutting the
main reason to support free trade in the first place. Worse yet, markets
will be carved up for political, not commercial, reasons, locking in
inefficiencies.

The 'political' argument - that regional trade bodies promote
peaceful foreign relations - is simply wrong-headed in the Soviet case.

After all, Ukraine managed to eliminate its nuclear weapons and
reach accommodation over the Black Sea fleet without joining a private
economic bloc with Russia.

On the other hand, not long after the 'united economic space'
was announced, Russia began to cast covetous eyes on the Ukrainian Black
Sea island of Tuszla. Economic borders cannot and will not disappear until
Russia and Ukraine agree on their territorial borders.

Because the proposed members of this new 'united economic space'
share Russian as a lingua franca and a common past within the Soviet Union, outsiders may dismiss too readily subtler differences in
culture, outlook, and even vocabulary. Because the region shares many
outward forms of European culture, it is a short step to assuming that
recent moves to free markets and democracy will be seamless and permanent.

But the 'united economic space' is also a perversion because the
presence of Belarus and Kazakhstan will ensure that democracy remains
low on the agenda.

Another perversion of democracy is the fact that the
supra-national body that is to administer the 'united economic space' grants
Ukraine and its 49 million people only 9.9 per cent of votes, while it gives
Russia and its 140 million people 83 per cent.

That gross imbalance in representation is a shameful betrayal of
Ukraine's sovereignty. It is a deal that can only have been agreed to as
the price of Russian support for Ukraine's President Leonid Kuchma as
he desperately seeks to extend his presidency beyond the two-term limit
that he faces this year.

My opposition to the 'united economic space' is not opposition
to Russia. The more Ukraine trades abroad, the better; if more of that
open trade goes Russia's way, so be it. But that trade should reflect that
Ukraine is competing with the world, unconstrained by a private deal
that excludes outsiders and their demands for a stable and predictable
legal environment and the best business practices.

I am not one of those people who think Russia is so naturally
collectivist that free trade and an open economy cannot work there. Nor
do I believe that Russia is so inherently autocratic that democracy must
invariably fail. But I do believe that, for these canards to be discarded,
Russia and Ukraine must open themselves to global competition, not
isolate themselves with each other.

Mr Dmitri Likhachev, one of Russia's most respected
intellectuals in the communist era, said that there is no such thing as the
Russian soul - 'we can create whatever future we want'. Ukraine and
Russia, too, can create the future they want, but not by closing themselves
off in a 'united economic space' that, in reality, is nothing more than
another dark corner. (END) (ARTUIS)
187 posted on 02/06/2004 8:41:27 AM PST by Calpernia (http://members.cox.net/classicweb/Heroes/heroes.htm)
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To: milkncookies
That specific one? It isn't there:

The requested document does not exist on this server.


Okay
188 posted on 02/06/2004 8:44:32 AM PST by Calpernia (http://members.cox.net/classicweb/Heroes/heroes.htm)
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To: milkncookies
I don't have a lot of time right now to elaborate, but I will say I do not believe that Russia has given a wink and nod to our terrorist enemies any more than we have done the same to the Islamics on the Russian front. While that may have happened in the past and could happen in the future, I think Russia has too much to loose and too little to gain right now by siding with the ragheads against US. I'm not suggesting that Russia is our friend and that we should hold hands and sing songs together, but on this issue, Russia is no worse than France and Germany, and not as bad as Saudi Arabia, Eygpt, Syria, China, and North Korea. My opinion is not based upon scholarly research or inside information from the spook community, but rather, is based upon reports, articles, and opinions that I've read here and other places, my knowledge of history, informed reason, and reasonable possibilities.
189 posted on 02/06/2004 8:44:48 AM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: StillProud2BeFree
Why do you say the fewer the people that saw this is the better? I have been busy and have not been reading all the post beforehand, just skipping and trying to keep abreast of the situation.
190 posted on 02/06/2004 8:45:12 AM PST by eastforker (The color of justice is green,just ask Johny Cochran!)
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To: Calpernia
I'm not going to pretend that I'm right or even an expert on the current Russian political climate. That's why I read and learn and state my opinion with chalk on a blackboard rather than cutting it in stone.
191 posted on 02/06/2004 8:48:42 AM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: Iron Eagle
Another interesting perspective among the many that have been posted.
193 posted on 02/06/2004 8:50:45 AM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: Texas Lizard
"I am getting so sick of this post every time I look at FR."

Don't click on it then. No one here wants to force you to read about the threat matrix. But then again we may ping you now to make sure you're feeling better.
194 posted on 02/06/2004 8:54:30 AM PST by Domestic Church (AMDG...Dx grumpicus civilis)
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To: StillProud2BeFree
SP2BF, could you share what your interpretation of "kindergarten pearls" might be? And, is the mention of "full moon" suggestive of the current one or is ithe message to vague to discern?
195 posted on 02/06/2004 8:54:36 AM PST by milkncookies (As Napoleon said, "Never ascribe to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence.")
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To: eastforker
I had concerns over messages being in the videos and I did not want to be responsible in any way for those messages being disseminated. That was all. It's been reported now in the mainstream media so as of last night so that isn't a concern any longer.

196 posted on 02/06/2004 8:58:32 AM PST by StillProud2BeFree
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To: milkncookies
Kindergarten Pearls appears the code name of a company in Riyadh that works with Otaibi (aka Cloud Enterprise) in producing and distributing videos. They also own a web hosting company.

I suspect that the full moon reference is both a reference to the state of the moon at the time of the Riyadh attacks (which is memory serves be correctly was at the full moon stage) and probably also is some sort of code. It comes up over and over.
197 posted on 02/06/2004 9:01:21 AM PST by StillProud2BeFree
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To: Labyrinthos
I wonder if those that post that Russia is behind Al Queda and all the rest of the terrorist noticed that Putin was included in the Dirty Kaffur video along with the U.S. and other enemies of the terrorist.
198 posted on 02/06/2004 9:01:26 AM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat
Excellent point. I'm sure there are some, however, who will claim that Putin deliberately put himself in the video to throw us off, and who knows, they could be right.
200 posted on 02/06/2004 9:05:26 AM PST by Labyrinthos
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