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The Anti-Islamic Fanatics (Honest, that's the actual title of the piece!)
Paknews ^ | 2004-01-19 10:24:46 | Yamin Zakria

Posted on 02/05/2004 12:39:36 AM PST by Cronos

The Americans have Daniel Pipe, the Dutch had Pim Fortuyn, the French have Brigit Bardot, the Italians have Oriana Fallaci, and the British have Robert Kilroy-Silk. They are all anti-Islamic bigots, zealots, extremists and fanatics, driven by their intense hatred and racism. The words of such people have contributed towards the legitimisation of the violence inflicted in place like Iraq. Furthermore, it encourages brutality amongst their soldiers, no surprise to hear the incident of an Iraqi prisoner viciously kicked to death. One can only imagine, all the other cases that do not get reported. Torture and execution has become routine in the prisons of Guantanamo Bay, Bagram and Abu Gharib. Such events resonate the era of Hitler and Mussolini.

So there is a pattern, any nation fuelled by fanaticism, racism, bigotry and extremism will inevitably inflict violence and commit genocide upon other nations. One of the earliest examples is the medieval crusade. Richard, the homosexual barbarian needlessly slaughtered thousands of Muslim prisoners, including women and children. Prior to which, the fanatical crusaders engaged in cannibalism. Why not? Since these Christian terrorists were eating the body of Christ and drinking his blood on a daily basis. The chivalrous, upright and magnanimous Salahhuddin Ayubi on recapturing Palestine did not allow such treatment of the Christian prisoners and communities in retaliation. This is an example of real “tolerance”! Even today, one can witness these Christian communities in the Fertile Crescent.

Then came the era of colonisation by the new ‘enlightened’ secular Europe. Nations were enslaved and exterminated. Aztecs, Incas, Mayas, Native Americans, Africa and the Aborigines of Australia are just few examples, and such events have no parallels in Islamic history. In the mid 20th century the fanaticism and extremism manifested in the rise of Fascism and Nazism in ‘civilised’ Europe. In a continuation of this legacy, we have the current Capitalist-Zionist-Christian axis waging new wave of brutal colonisation and subjugation. In between, Uncle Sam pillaged Vietnam, Korea, Central and South America

Whatever the newspaper columnist Kilroy-Silk ‘thinks’ or writes, gas chambers, Nuclear weapons, cluster bombs, Agent Orange, Inquisition, Fascism and Nazism are all European inventions, has no root or connection with the Islamic civilisation. Ask a simple question, who are largest producers of these weapons, and then profit handsomely from its sale? Kilroy-Silk is right, all the Arab countries together export less then Finland and therefore could not achieve this

Scholarly discourse between civilisations can bring fruitful result in building tolerance and mutual respect. As an example, the era of the Islamic rule in Spain. There was no Islamic Inquisition or the ritual burning of Jews and witches. Making vitriolic statements against the Islam without having the courage or the intellect to debate the subject with its proponents is not discourse, nor does it comply with the values espoused by the advocates of free society. Rather, it indicates cowardice and implicit admission of intellectual defeat. What, makes these people anti-Islamic fanatics, is simply the lack of substantiation and rationality behind their opinions.

If anyone else expressed such malicious diatribe against any other community there would have been instant restraint and gagging. If the perpetrator is a Muslim, one can by pass everything and, in Guantanamo Bay style imprison him/her indefinitely in a cage, without legal representation or charge, then wave the flag of human rights over his/her head.

Not for the first time, Robert Kilroy-Silk has made such a venomous attack. Which has exceeded well beyond the standard of the normal quota of anti-Islamic diatribe reserved for the Muslims. His one-dimensional view of the Islamic world as inherently evil, versus the angelic Anglo-Saxon civilisation that can do no wrong, makes the likes of George Bush, and General William Boynkin geniuses.

He addressed the Arabs/Muslims in the most disparaging manner. Has he ever read the Arab history and comprehend the factors, that has shaped the current situation? Unlikely, for a start, he thinks Iran is an Arab country! None of the leadership in the Arab countries reflects the will of its people. The British, the French and the US employs the services of these Bedouin Arab ‘kings’ and despots, now includes the schizophrenic clown of Libya. The last time the Arab masses expressed their voices in desiring a representative government was in Algeria. The elections were suspended. There was no outcry for democracy from the West! If the government produced is not desirable, then suppress it or just conveniently label it as a dictator, despite popular support

Kilroy-Silk describes the war on Iraq as ‘liberation’, even though the legal pretext was finding WMD, which is conveniently avoided. If Iraq has been liberated, why is it that, Blair and Bush always addresses their soldiers in a secure military barrack, rather than the cheering crowds in the streets of Baghdad or Basra or Mosul? Did the Iraqis ask for their liberation by the bombs and bullets of the coalition forces? If so, where are they? Frankly, it is imperial arrogance for Blair and Bush to claim, as white vigilantes to know what is best for the Iraqis, even though, they neither represent them nor have they sought their opinion prior to invading their country.

Kilroy-Silk refers to the suicide bombings as if it is a recent invention of the Muslims. They are sacrificing their lives to defend their lands. They are the occupied and not the occupiers. They are the oppressed and not the oppressors. Kilroy-Silk’s paradigm is that, the West is engaged in ‘defensive’ war, with countries that are in distant lands. Hence, the dropping of Daisy cutters, Cluster bomb, and cruise missiles does not constitute terrorism, can be excused, even though it leads to terrorising the entire nation? But any form of retaliation is simply terrorism. How convenient

He rants about Saddam using chemical and Biological weapons, again conveniently ignores that it was his proud ancestor, Winston Churchill, who started the tradition of gassing in Iraq. Even then, can one seriously propose that the West were entirely innocent about the production, deployment, and usage of those weapons under Saddam? These types of weapons primarily exists in the US, Europe and Israel. No doubt, under the Kilroy ‘principle’ this is the sole prerogative of the civilised West.

Kilroy-Silk, calls Iran, Libya, and Syria vile regimes, not that I am a supporter of these regimes but if they are, why? Is it simply because Bush has labelled Iran as part of an axis of evil? I cannot think what these governments have done that is worse then the conduct and track record of the British and the American government.

On the subject of Economics, he refers to the American benevolence of American ‘aid’ to the Muslim countries. Really? Capitalist nation are charitable institutions? Excuse my ignorance. I thought economic ‘aid’ was fat loan with fat interests. What good is aid when there is ever-rising debt, resulting in the net flow of wealth from the poor to the rich (West)? This is no different from the televised charity donations to relieve guilt, after impoverishing the poor countries through the interests and loans.

He gloats about the asylum seekers arriving from the Islamic countries to the UK. The Muslims would not be arriving in the West, had it not been for the colonisation (economic and military), and the constant interference by imposing dictators and despots. On the issue of asylum and persecution, the Islamic societies also provided sanctuary to those persecuted in Europe during medieval times. He also forgets, how his forefathers persecuted and brutalised the Irish community for centuries. Which is easily comparable to the Nazi persecution of the Jews.

Mr Kilroy criticises the Islamic penal code with a chauvinistic undertone. Why is his harsh criticism reserved for the Muslims when the US also employs capital punishment and the majority of the British public are in favour of reintroducing it? The notion of capital punishment is not an Islamic invention. It also exists in abundance within the Judeo-Christian traditions.

Then the usual reference to Islam oppressing women, but yet Islam continues attract women from the West in droves, despite the intensity of the anti-Islamic propaganda. If Mr Kilroy-Silk is convinced about his assertion, then why does he not try to rescue the likes of the British journalist, Yvonne Ridley, who embraced Islam after being released from the captivity of the Taliban?

He vilifies the ritual Islamic slaughtering, yet he is silent on the identical process used by the Jews. Why the selective targeting of Muslims? This is clear evidence of a prejudiced mind. He then further demonstrates his arrogance, ignorance and racism, by claming that the Arabs made no contribution towards human civilisation.

“After all, the Arab countries are not exactly shining examples of civilisation, are they? Few of them make much contribution to the welfare of the rest of the world. Indeed, apart from oil - which was discovered, is produced and is paid for by the West - what do they contribute? “

I thought Mesopotamia (Iraq) was the foundation of human civilisation. Any individual with a rudimentary knowledge of history, science, medicine, astronomy and mathematics would have appreciated the role played by Islamic civilisation in contributing towards the European renaissance. He should at the least visit the various museums in London to get bit of education about the Islamic civilisation, which may help to curb his arrogant and racist views.

The mentality of Kilroy-Silk is no different from the common racist and illiterate football hooligans. His recent outburst, devoid of any rational or intellectual basis is an evidence of this. In fact, even Nick Griffin of the BNP (British National Party) would have expressed a more objective view about the Muslims/Arabs. Therefore, no surprise, that Kilroy-Silk did not comment on the illiterate British football hooligans in Iraq that viciously kicked a prisoner to death. Again Kilroy-Silk should take note, such examples are a manifestation of racism, intolerance, and cowardice.

Kilroy-Silk, most likely represents the like-minded minority of right wing racists. The vast majority of the British public are noble and fair-minded, thus, they came out to protest against the unjust war on Iraq. Indeed, the entire world faces real danger from these ant-Islamic fanatics, and extremists, whether they are in the mass media, entertainment or shady figures behind governments e.g. Neo-Cons.


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You read the title correctly, now wasn't that a laugh? The idiot writes:
I thought Mesopotamia (Iraq) was the foundation of human civilisation.

err... yeah it was, but you "arabized" it and now the native Assyrians, Babylonians etc. live in exile or have had their culture destroyed.
1 posted on 02/05/2004 12:39:37 AM PST by Cronos
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To: Cronos
Any individual with a rudimentary knowledge of history, science, medicine, astronomy and mathematics would have appreciated the role played by Islamic civilisation in contributing towards the European renaissance.

What Have You Done For Me Lately? Sure you helped out in the Renaissance (Bernard Lewis's "What Went Wrong" chronicles this) but come on, your culture hasn't improved in hundreds of years.

Didn't know about Yvonne Ridley. Looked her up and she quit the BBC and now works for Al Jazeera. A blog about it
2 posted on 02/05/2004 1:00:37 AM PST by lelio
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To: Cronos
Is there anything more satisfying than the impotent rage of a whining muslim apologist?
3 posted on 02/05/2004 1:11:53 AM PST by Woahhs
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To: All
-Islam, a Religion of Peace®? Some links...--
4 posted on 02/05/2004 1:23:31 AM PST by backhoe
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To: Cronos
Maybe we could add a hyphen to that: Anti-Islamic-Fanatics (aka AntiIslamofascists).
5 posted on 02/05/2004 1:29:52 AM PST by weegee
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To: Cronos
Olde history can be re-written to suit anybody.

But 3000+ dead in NY, DC and Pennsylvania remains present tense for me.

Islam started a war which they are ill-prepared to finish. But we are prepared, and however long it takes, we will prevail.

Wise muslims are advised to understand this simple fact. (If there are wise muslims)
6 posted on 02/05/2004 1:31:36 AM PST by truth_seeker
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To: redgolum; Havoc; SoothingDave; polemikos; OLD REGGIE
This is the rot that slammmies think we believe in -- and it is exacerbated by Christian in-fighting: So there is a pattern, any nation fuelled by fanaticism, racism, bigotry and extremism will inevitably inflict violence and commit genocide upon other nations. One of the earliest examples is the medieval crusade. Richard, the homosexual barbarian needlessly slaughtered thousands of Muslim prisoners, including women and children. Prior to which, the fanatical crusaders engaged in cannibalism. Why not? Since these Christian terrorists were eating the body of Christ and drinking his blood on a daily basis
7 posted on 02/05/2004 1:59:05 AM PST by Cronos (W2004!)
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To: All
any nation fuelled by fanaticism, racism, bigotry and extremism

Each time we have lunatics like the KKK doing somethign stupid, they only supply fuel to these slamofasscists.
8 posted on 02/05/2004 2:04:01 AM PST by Cronos (W2004!)
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To: Cronos; rmlew; Clemenza; nutmeg; firebrand; PARodrig
btt
9 posted on 02/05/2004 2:18:27 AM PST by Cacique
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To: Cronos
PARTIAL LIST OF TERRORIST ACTIONS BY ISLAMIC FANATICS

1968 Robert Kennedy assassinated
1972 Munich Olympic Massacure Sep-5,1972 (Black September)
1976 Entebbe Hostage Crisis, June 27, 1976
1979 Iran Hostage Crisis, Nov. 4, 1979 444 days
1979 Grand Mosque Seizure, Nov 20,1979
1981 Assassination of Egyptian President, Oct 6,1981
1982 Assassination of Lebanese Prime Minister, Sept 14, 1982
1983 Bombing of US Embassy in Beirut6, April 18,1983
1983 Bombing of Maring Barricks, Beruit, Oct 23,1983
1984 Hizballah Restaurant Bombing, April 12,1984
1985 Egyptian Airliner Hijacking, Nov 23,1985
1985 Rome Airport murders
1985 TWA Flight 847 hijacked, U.S. Navy diver murdered
1985 Achille Lauro hijacking, Homacidal maniac lived in saddams Iraq
1986 Aircraft Bombing in Greece, March 30, 1986
1988 Pan Am 747 Flight 103 Bombing, Lockerbie, 100's murdered
1988 Berlin Discoteque Bombing, Dec 21,1988
1992 Bombing in Israeli Embassy in Argentina, March 17,1992
1993 Attempted Assassination of Pres. Bush Sr., April 14,1993
1993 First World Trade Center bombing, February 26th, 7 Killed, Hundreds injured, Billions
1994 Air France Hijacking, Dec 24,1994
1995 Attack on US Diplomats in Pakistan, Mar 8,1995
1995 Saudi Military Installation Attack, Nov 13, 1995
1995 Kashmiri Hostage taking, July 4,1995
1996 Khobar Towers attack
1996 Sudanese Missionarys Kidnapping, Aug 17,1996
1996 Paris Subway Explosion, Dec 3,1996
1997 Israeli Shopping Mall Bombing, Sept 4, 1997
1997 Yemeni Kidnappings, Oct 30,1997
1998 Somali Hostage taking crisis, April 15,1998
1998 U.S. Embassy Bombing in Peru, Jan 15, 1998
1998 U.S. Kenya Embassy blown up, 100's murdered
1998 U.S. Tanzania Embassy blown up, 100's murdered
1999 Plot to blow up Space Needle (thwarted)
2000 USS Cole attacked, many U.S. Navy sailors murdered
2000-2003 Intifada against Israel - 100's dead and injured
2000 Manila Bombing, Dec 30,2000
2001 4 Commercial airliners hijacked, 250+ murdered
2001 World Trade Center attacked, 2800+ murdered
2001 Flight 93 murders
2001 Pentagon attacked, 180+ murdered
2002 Reporter Daniel Pearl, kidnapped and murdered
2002 Philippines American missionary, Filipino nurse killed
2002 July 4, El Al attack Los Angeles LAX, several murdered
2002 Bali bombing - 200 dead, 300 injured
2002 Yemen, French Oil Tanker attacked
2002 Marines attacked / murdered in Kuwait
2002 Washington D.C. sniper
2002 Russian Theater attacked, 100+ dead
2002 Nigerian riots against Miss World Pageant, 200 dead, dozens injured
2002 Mombasa Hotel Attacked, 12 dead, dozens injured
2002 Israeli Boeing 757 attacked by missiles, fortunately no one injured
2002 August Hotel bombing in Jakarta, Indonesia. 12 dead, dozens injured.
2003 Rusian concert bombing
2003 Phillipines airport and market bombing
2003 Foiled SAM plot in the USA
2003 UN Baghdad HQ Bombing
2003 Ticrit Mosque Bombing
2003 Neveh Shalom Synagogue Bombing in Istanbul, Turkey



10 posted on 02/05/2004 2:30:48 AM PST by Diogenesis (If you mess with one of us, you mess with all of us)
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To: Diogenesis
Please post this at the linked site, they have a comments forum too!
11 posted on 02/05/2004 4:08:22 AM PST by Cronos (W2004!)
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To: Diogenesis
bump
12 posted on 02/05/2004 4:19:42 AM PST by Centurion2000 (Resolve to perform what you must; perform without fail that what you resolve.)
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To: Cronos
"Any individual with a rudimentary knowledge of history, science, medicine, astronomy and mathematics would have appreciated the role played by Islamic civilisation in contributing towards the European renaissance."

Er, well, if by that he means retaining and cataloguing the advances of other societies, OK... purely Arab contributions on those realms are a little lean.

Sure I could refute each and every one of this crank's historical "facts"- they're editorials, at best; asinine at worst- but I just don't have that kind of time, working two jobs and all. Pontification is pretty far down this American's "to-do" list. At the least, have a look at the origin of the Crusades, or go back even further and read the bio on Charles Martel in the Catholic Encyclopedia online.

But the short version of it is simply this: no one in America cares about the 12th century. We care about the 21st. America, leading the western world in scientific research across all disciplines, technological advance/application of those new discoveries, and medicine, will continue to cure diseases, explore the universe, and uncover the laws governing Nature itself.

Islamic fundamentalists can go ahead and stay in the 12th century (or 14th, which the Muslim calendar currently shows). We'll continue to evolve, continue to better ourselves, and continue to kick the s--t out of people who want to kill us.
13 posted on 02/05/2004 5:39:57 AM PST by Gefreiter
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To: Cronos
We have but yet begun to fight. If we were anti-Islam Fanatics, in 15 minutes we could wipe Islam from the face of the planet without even leaving the bunker.

They have no idea what they have started do they?
14 posted on 02/05/2004 5:49:15 AM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Cronos
wha wha wha, equality, peace, open border, immigration, offended feeling, more rights, own legal system, own schools, rape non believing whores, kill Christians/Jews, jihad, caliph
15 posted on 02/05/2004 7:35:18 AM PST by RussianConservative (Xristos: the Light of the World)
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To: Diogenesis
You forget Russian apartment bombings and May Day parade bombing, amongst worst...also train bombing.
16 posted on 02/05/2004 7:37:29 AM PST by RussianConservative (Xristos: the Light of the World)
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To: Cronos
In a continuation of this legacy, we have the current Capitalist-Zionist-Christian axis waging new wave of brutal colonisation and subjugation. In between, Uncle Sam pillaged Vietnam, Korea, Central and South America...

What a moderate thing to say...for an Islamist

17 posted on 02/05/2004 7:41:45 AM PST by RightWingAtheist
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To: RightWingAtheist
Yes and they only pillage (modern) south Sudane, various islands of Indonesia, Kashmire (India), Kosovo (Serbia), Chechnya (Russia), Lebanon, northern Nigeria, Crete, Makedonia, Bosnia, Eritria (Ethiopia).....do I miss any?
18 posted on 02/05/2004 8:13:31 AM PST by RussianConservative (Xristos: the Light of the World)
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To: Cronos
I would take you to task in calling it "Christian" infighting. It's religious infighting. And it's largely true. Catholics and Protestants have been involved in things they should never have been involved in and have excused it in both cases by handwringing. Both are religious philosophies that beg some tie to Christianity and both give Christianity a bad name. So now we see handwringing as an attempt to beg no attention to past religious wrongs so we can say hypocritically that Islam is worse than ya'll have been. Why, because their version of religious philosophy differs from yours so they must be worse. Please. One is as bad as the other. That is the problem and that's what you don't see in all the handwringing.
19 posted on 02/05/2004 9:38:35 AM PST by Havoc ("Alright; but, that only counts as one..")
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To: Cronos
Yeah, 3000 people dead in a flaming atrocity, rape shops, live burials, people dipped in acid and fed into shredders - we really have let a few little things get to us, haven't we?

If at one point Islam produced the most advanced culture in the world, then what happened? As Bernard Lewis asked, What Went Wrong? The answer is not a pretty one, and it is one from which the author and his ideological soulmates are averting their eyes like children refusing to see a monster.

Islam is exemplified by murderers at the moment, and that's a problem. A once-glorious faith has fallen into the hands of venal, grasping autocrats and ignorant blowhards such as this author. It is a failed culture, and its adherents are now thrashing about desperately, seeking to blame anyone but themselves.

20 posted on 02/05/2004 10:08:47 AM PST by Billthedrill
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