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Posted on 01/29/2004 5:54:35 PM PST by Jim Robinson
Will Bush solve the illegal immigration problem? Probably not. But neither will Kerry, Edwards, Dean, Clark or Hillary. Chances are, they'd make it worse. Probably far worse.
Will Bush solve the government spending problem? Probably not. But neither will Kerry, Edwards, Dean, Clark or Hillary. Chances are, they'd make it worse. Probably far worse.
Will Bush solve the campaign finance problem? Probably not. But neither will Kerry, Edwards, Dean, Clark or Hillary. Chances are, they'd make it worse. Probably far worse.
Will Bush solve the drug war problem? Probably not. But neither will Kerry, Edwards, Dean, Clark or Hillary. Chances are, they'd make it worse. Probably far worse.
Will Bush solve the nation's education problems? Probably not. But neither will Kerry, Edwards, Dean, Clark or Hillary. Chances are, they'd make it worse. Probably far worse.
Will Bush solve the so-called healthcare problems? Probably not. But neither will Kerry, Edwards, Dean, Clark or Hillary. Chances are, they'd make it worse. Probably far worse.
Will Bush solve the so-called environmental problems? Probably not. But neither will Kerry, Edwards, Dean, Clark or Hillary. Chances are, they'd make it worse. Probably far worse.
Will Bush solve the social security problems? Probably not. But neither will Kerry, Edwards, Dean, Clark or Hillary. Chances are, they'd make it worse. Probably far worse.
Will Bush solve the medicare problems? Probably not. But neither will Kerry, Edwards, Dean, Clark or Hillary. Chances are, they'd make it worse. Probably far worse.
Will Bush defend America from those bent on destroying her? You'd better bet your sweet bippy he will.
Will any of the Democrats defend America? Hell no they won't. They'd rather turn us over to the U.N. They'd surrender to the French Foreign Legion if given the chance.
Will Bush appoint conservative judges? Yup!
Will Kerry, Edwards, Clark, Hillary, et al, appoint conservative judges? Yeah, right. And hell will freeze over tomorrow.
Will Bush continue reducing taxes? Yup.
Will Kerry, Edwards, Clark, Hillary, et al, raise your taxes as soon as they possibly can if given the opportunity and continue raising them until hell freezes over? Yup.
Will Bush defend the right to life? Check
Will Bush defend marriage between a man a woman? Check
Will Bush defend the right to keep and bear arms? Check
Will Bush say no to Kyoto? Check.
Will Bush say no to a world court? Check.
Will Bush say no to the U.N.? Check.
Will Kerry, Edwards, Clark, Hillary, et al, remove our national sovereignty and subjugate America to world government? Just as quickly as they possibly can if given the opportunity.
Will any other person be elected to the Presidency in 2004 other than Bush (God willing) or a Democrat? Obviously not.
Doesn't make a lick of sense to me to allow the America hating, freedom hating Democrats back into power now that we've kicked them out.
Say yes to sovereignty for America and continued freedom for all Americans.
Say no to the RATS!!
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To: carton253
Good comments. If any party needs to be sent a message, it needs to be sent to the DEMOCRATS, who remain (since the Clintons) the party of perjury and obstruction of justice, the party of appeasement, the party of sedition, the party of pre-natal infanticide, the party of corruption; the party of election fraud; the party of race-baiting; the party of class envy and warfare; the party of demagoguery; the party of hand-wringers, gloom-and-doomers, naysayers and nitpickers...
Maybe the "hand-wringers, gloom-and-doomers, naysayers and nitpickers" on FR feel more at home with the Democrats.
881
posted on
01/30/2004 11:43:25 AM PST
by
My2Cents
("Well...there you go again.")
To: He Rides A White Horse
You may be the exception on FR. I've accused many of the Bush-bashers of never being part of his "base," and as probably being Buchanan voters in 2000. No one has responded to tell me I'm wrong.
882
posted on
01/30/2004 11:45:30 AM PST
by
My2Cents
("Well...there you go again.")
To: Nanodik; gatorbait; My2Cents; Howlin
My strategery would be to vote LP (like I almost always do), hope Bush looses by a margin that the right-wing third party candidates picked up and get 4 years of gridlocked govt. That will give the RP 4 years to realize they can't take the right wing for granted.You need professional help. That is as sick as it gets. It's also utter stupidity and an effort in futility.
883
posted on
01/30/2004 11:47:01 AM PST
by
onyx
(Your secrets are safe with me and all my friends.)
To: Nanodik; PhiKapMom; Tamsey; onyx; doodlelady; afraidfortherepublic; Wolfstar; ...
My strategery would be to vote LP (like I almost always do), hope Bush looses by a margin that the right-wing third party candidates picked up and get 4 years of gridlocked govt. That will give the RP 4 years to realize they can't take the right wing for granted. The Libertarian Party is hardly "right wing" on many issues. Too many dopers, pro-prostitution, and isolationists for my tastes. But go ahead and vote LP, cause Bush to lose by a hair, and then let a Democrat nominate up to four Supreme Court judges who will serve for the next 30 years.
884
posted on
01/30/2004 11:49:49 AM PST
by
My2Cents
("Well...there you go again.")
To: My2Cents
The "right wing" has never voted GOP so the threat and stratergy to vote 3rd party is meaningless.
885
posted on
01/30/2004 11:54:13 AM PST
by
onyx
(Your secrets are safe with me and all my friends.)
To: Jim Robinson
Amen to that - I never assumed you were part of the Deanie Baby corwd. LOL
To: Jim Robinson
Amen to that - I never assumed you were part of the Deanie Baby crowd. LOL
To: Nanodik
That's the whole point! FR's Libertarians, Big l or little, disagree with the LP pkatform about 75-85%,or more, but still call themselves Libertarians. This is illogical, in the extreme. Dems and GOPers don't disagree with their respective party's platforms that much.
I don't want Rudy to run for president. CCP where I ever said that he's a " hero " of mine. And since you also don't know what my stance is on abortion, don't presume. I never talk about that topic here, except to condemn PBA.
Just give up, Canadian transplant and FR newbie you really aren't up for a FR de bate. ;^)
To: Nanodik
That's the whole point! FR's Libertarians, Big l or little, disagree with the LP platform about 75-85%,or more, but still call themselves Libertarians. This is illogical, in the extreme. Dems and GOPers don't disagree with their respective party's platforms that much.
I don't want Rudy to run for president. CCP where I ever said that he's a " hero " of mine. And since you also don't know what my stance is on abortion, don't presume. I never talk about that topic here, except to condemn PBA.
Just give up, Canadian transplant and FR newbie you really aren't up for a FR debate. ;^)
To: onyx
Correct. The dedicated third-partyists have so marginalized themselves that they very rarely impact elections. Does anyone think the Democrats "got the message" from the impact of Nader's vote in 2000? About 97% of voters recognize that voting third-party to send a message is about as effective as spitting into the wind.
890
posted on
01/30/2004 12:13:45 PM PST
by
My2Cents
("Well...there you go again.")
To: My2Cents
I don't know what I'm going to do this election. I am most grateful to the President for his service to the pro-life cause, and he has done many positive things as Mr Robinson states.
I've listened to various theories as to why he is doing this (immigration); I have arrived at the conclusion that it is going to cause extreme damage with this policy. I'm not saying intentionally, but it won't matter if it was done intentionally or not. The end result will be the same.
As I've stated before, the Clintons spent eight years flooding the country with Mexican and other Third World immigrants; that was part of an intentionally conceived plan to tip the demographic scales as it were. You know, Hillary "Trash the Electoral College While We're Doing It" Clinton. Put these people on a fast track to citizenship just in time for Election 2000. We saw the ruse. We knew what they were doing, and what the outcome would be.
Now the President is adopting a strategy that is going to lead to the same state, in my opinion. We can assume his intentions are good, many here (and probably he himself) think they will be won over by the Republican Party.
I don't think it's going to play out that way. These illegal immigrants are lawbreakers who want handouts and social services; I have no doubt as to what party they are going to gravitate towards eventually. The party of lawbreakers and entitlements.
So we'll start with 8 million as some estimate, but that will be the tip of the iceberg. These people will have children here, they'll have liberal lawyers and judges conspiring to keep them here. They won't be leaving when 3 or 4 years are up as everybody is optimistically projecting.
In four years, eight million will become twelve or fourteen or even twenty million. Twenty million new Democrat voters for 2008.
America is not prepared to handle such instability, especially in the condition we find it today. I'm not trying to be a pessimist; all I know is that I have a sinking feeling about all of this.
I feel as if it's vote for the President, get him four more years, after which I fear we'll not see a conservative President for many years to come due to demographics. We'll be completely overrun by then. I wonder if this is how the men at the Alamo felt.
891
posted on
01/30/2004 12:25:33 PM PST
by
He Rides A White Horse
(I wonder if Free Republic will be deemed a terrorist organization under Hillary?)
To: Kay Soze
I am a 24/7 member and have the third hour of his radio show of 1-29-04 on my HD.
Can we save and archive the shows, like on HD or DVD-R? Streaming often fails via my satellite and is almost frustrating. If I can download it all in one shot, that would be good. Then I could listen to it, Tivo-style.
Dang, you've got me thinking hard about it. Those three sample clips up on his page today look like Rush is singing from the same page as a lot of other conservatives. So much of the same stuff we're seeing right here at FR.
What, did I arrive at the party late? I thought it was just me.
I resisted joining the Rush site before but looking around there, I can see they've really improved it in terms of content. I do know we need someone to lead the conservative movement to put some fear into a big-spending GOP congress. We certainly did it before with Rush!
Can you get a sign-up bonus by referring me?
892
posted on
01/30/2004 12:31:51 PM PST
by
George W. Bush
(It's the Congress, stupid.)
To: My2Cents; Nanodik
What a hoot. I love this "send a message" crowd. They are denser than lead. Total votes cast in the typical presidential election is around 100,000,000, of whom minor party voters total around 1% to 2% nationwide. Of that 1 to 2 million, how can anyone possibly determine who the true Green, Reform, Libertarian, Constitution, or Communist party true believers are vs. those just "sending a message?"
Furthermore, if the "send a message" vote is split among any or all the minor parties, how the heck can anyone determine what the message is?
The only bona fide message on election day is the one sent by the tens of millions of people who vote either Democrat or Republican. It's the only message received in Washington and among the nation's media. It's the only one that matters among those who will govern the nation.
"Sending a message" by voting minor party is like spitting into the teeth of a hurricane.
893
posted on
01/30/2004 12:34:46 PM PST
by
Wolfstar
(George W. Bush — the 1st truly great world leader of the 21st Century)
To: My2Cents
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I've accused many of the Bush-bashers of never being part of his "base," and as probably being Buchanan voters in 2000. No one has responded to tell me I'm wrong.
Really? No one? And why do you keep using the term "Bushbasher?" Do you like the term "Bushbot?" The use of either ters is part of the problem.
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894
posted on
01/30/2004 12:40:09 PM PST
by
Sabertooth
(Malcontent for Bush - 2004!)
To: Jim Robinson
Thanks Jim! I'm sending your excellent list to the local leftist Gannett rag as a letter to the editors. Let's see if they will print it.
To: My2Cents; Southack; Wolfstar; nopardons
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The dedicated third-partyists have so marginalized themselves that they very rarely impact elections.
Third party candidates impacted elections in 1948, 1960, 1968, 1980, 1992, 1996, and 2000. That's seven of the fourteen Presidential Elections in over a half century, including four of the last six and the last three in a row. The Democrats have won six of the fourteen in that time, and on four of those occasions -- Truman ('48), Kennedy ('60), Clinton ('92), and Clinton ('96) -- they won by a plurality. That means that the Democrats won the Presidency on four occasions when the Republicans plus third parties outpolled them. In fact, only Johnson ('64) and Carter ('76) have gotten more than 50% of the popular vote for the Democrats since FDR's final victory in 1944. In contrast, of the eight Presidential Elections that the GOP has won in that time, only Nixon ('68) and President Bush (2000) won with less than a majority of the popular vote. In recent electoral history, third parties are quite likely to impact Presidential elections.
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896
posted on
01/30/2004 12:53:46 PM PST
by
Sabertooth
(Malcontent for Bush - 2004!)
To: Jim Robinson
Bump. I couldn't agree more!
To: Jim Robinson
Bush & the Republicans will get my vote only if they need it in close races in my state.
Other than that, my vote will be far better used in some form of meaningful message vote against the disappointing excesses of the Republicans since gaining the WH and both houses of Congress. And against such future excesses, future amnesty, etc.
Giving Bush & Co. a landslide victory with 0% dissent simply rubber stamps all the bad stuff, no need to list it all again, we've done plenty of that lately.
Bush deserves to be reelected, but with serious reservations on some important issues.
***an ex-Republican base voter***
898
posted on
01/30/2004 1:03:22 PM PST
by
citizen
(Write-in Tom Tancredo President 2004!)
To: Sabertooth
You know, run-on elections between the top two winners would solve this problem, but when have politicans ever wanted to solve problems.
To: Sabertooth
You know, run-off elections between the top two winners would solve this problem, but when have politicans ever wanted to solve problems.
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