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Vote Bush in '04: The Supreme Court is too imporant!
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Posted on 01/29/2004 11:36:08 AM PST by votelife
On thread after thread I see people talk about abandoning Bush over immigration or spending or gun control or some other issue. I feel many conservatives are missing the big picture. Look at the ages of these justices:
William H. Rehnquist, 80 John Paul Stevens, 84 Sandra Day O'Connor, Ariz., 74 Antonin Scalia, 68 DC Anthony M. Kennedy, 68 David H. Souter, 65 Clarence Thomas, 56 Ruth Bader Ginsburg, 71 Stephen G. Breyer, Mass. 66
Rehnquist wants to retire. O'Connor did LAST time (but I think she felt bad about telegraphing it). Stevens is 84. Eighty-four. At 71 Ginsburg is no spring chicken either.
Now add 4 more to the ages of all these justices. You think Stevens will stay until 88? Rehnquist till 84? With his bad back? O'Connor already wants to go.
Lots of important cases are decided 5-4. Need I remind you Bush Gore was 5-4. (I know part of it was 7-2)...
Freepers have been getting all over Bush for not being conservative enough. But remember, without a conservative court, almost any legislation or act by Bush can be overturned by an unelected robe.
Let's review some recent rulings by the 9th Circuit Court and the USSC: pledge unconstitutional constitutional right to sodomy in the interest of diversity, affirmative action constitutional right to partial birth abortion the CA recall is suspsended (later overturned)
Future courts will decide the following: 2nd amendment cases right to life cases affirmative action cases immigration cases war on terror cases
President Bush has done a great job on the war and judges in my opinion. He campaigned hard on judges in '02 and it helped Coleman, Chambliss, and Talent win. That made Daschle powerless (besides the filibuster). Without that, Estrada would have never gotten a vote. Of course when Hillary et all are bent on denying any minority conservative judge, it's still tough getting conservatives confirmed. But let's see how the American public reacts when the Dems want to filibuster a qualified SC nominee. I'm giving Bush the benefit of the doubt. He talked about activist judges in his SOTU speech. All indications are to a more conservative Senate in 2004, which means if Bush is elected, we'll get a better Supreme Court.
Rehnquist wants to retire, let's give him President Bush and a conservative Senate to confirm his replacement.
O'Connor wants to retire. Stevens needs to retire soon. Any other justice may want or need to retire. 4 more years is a long time.
Freepers, do we stand for we the people, or we the judges? Get active in '04. Call Congress about your significant issues. But when you vote in 2004, think about who you want to nominate Justices and who you want as the Commander in Chief.
President Bush has to be the front man on these judicial fights and he will get slaughtered in the mainstream press for these decisions. We need to let him now in clear terms that we strongly support his decision to put conservatives like Miguel Estrada and Charles Pickering on the court...
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Freepers, do we stand for we the people, or we the judges? Get active in '04. Call Congress about your significant issues. But when you vote in 2004, think about who you want to nominate Justices and who you want as the Commander in Chief.
"We will not tire, we will not falter, and we will not fail." President Bush, September 20, 2001 speech to Congress
TOPICS: Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: 2004; bush; dean; election; gwb2004; kerry; supremecourt
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To: sasafras
You are not a real conservative. If you were one, you will vote for President Bush because no matter how you look at it, he will be much better than any Democrat on all the issues that matter for REAL CONSERVATIVES.
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posted on
01/29/2004 12:05:06 PM PST
by
jveritas
To: Blood of Tyrants
A hate to be a cynic, but Bush hasn't stood up the the Rats about blocking judiciary appointments yet. What makes you think that he will in the future?
To start with because he offered recess appointments to each of the stalled appointees. Pickering was the only one that accepted, but Bush did not try to hide the fact that he would have appointed each and everyone if desired.
Senate judicial confirmations would make a strong campaign issue in the senatorial races if they play up the shortage creating a Judicial crisis. It is too early to tell yet if that is in the game plan.
You can bet that a Dem president would try to solve the crisis in a hurry.
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posted on
01/29/2004 12:07:57 PM PST
by
CMAC51
To: sasafras
Its the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine -- If I elect a liberal by default so be it - I hope the RNC/GOP is listening because I am not alone. We'll see who flinches first.I couldn't agree more. The days of scaring me into voting for a right wing socialist out of fear of a left wing socialist are over.
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posted on
01/29/2004 12:08:13 PM PST
by
steve50
("There is Tranquility in Ignorance, but Servitude is its Partner.")
To: wadeintothem
Piss on you too!
Some issues are nonnegotiable.
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posted on
01/29/2004 12:08:18 PM PST
by
KEVLAR
To: votelife; StoneColdGOP; sasafras
"Rehnquist wants to retire, let's give him President Bush and a conservative Senate to confirm his replacement. O'Connor wants to retire. Stevens needs to retire soon. Any other justice may want or need to retire. 4 more years is a long time."
"Wants and needs" to retire don't mean a thing if they don't truely intend to do it while Bush is in the WH. How about writing them to get the h*ll out?
"Rehnquist till 84? With his bad back"
Why not, he does have the best insurance coverage.
Of course, this is all mute seeing as the GOP will not stand up to the Dems. That stupid debate that Frist put together did not do a thing to keep the Dems from filibustering. Did he really think that things would change? Give me Frist's job and I will raise some serious h*ll in Congress, I will get everybody's attention and put some backbone back in the GOP.
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posted on
01/29/2004 12:08:43 PM PST
by
looscnnn
("Live free or die; death is not the worst of evils" Gen. John Stark 1809)
To: Sloth
Here is an interesting research project. When those four nominations (not "appointments") were made, were the Republicans in control of the Senate?
Remember Robert Bork?
To: capitan_refugio
Voting for Bush indicates voting for more than judges. You are conveying your approval of his assault on the First Amendment, approval of his gigantic spending increases on unconstitutional expenditures (NEA? Give me a break!), approval of enormous deficits, approval of his complicity with Teddy Kennedy's "education" waste, approval of his refusal to even talk about "limited government", much less act on it.
You'll be saying "all of that is OK with me; let's have four more years of it."
I don't approve of any of those, and I will vote for those who support my principles. Or I won't vote.
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posted on
01/29/2004 12:09:14 PM PST
by
Hank Rearden
(Dick Gephardt. Before he dicks you.)
To: Hank Rearden
Support Perot-like candidates. That got us 8 years of Clinton.
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posted on
01/29/2004 12:09:28 PM PST
by
mathluv
To: wadeintothem
I'm not going to respond to irrational attacks on Bush. Bush is clearly not a rigid conservative. He's doing a great job on the war, and he's nominated great judges. You're right about trollers, I'm sure a lot of angst on right here is from DU. So it's not worth responding too. I'm just trying to make people think. Call Bush, complain to Congress, but in the end, this is our country. Do we want to leave it to a President Hillary?
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posted on
01/29/2004 12:10:32 PM PST
by
votelife
(Elect a Filibuster Proof Majority)
To: KEVLAR
You go kevlar, get your dem candidate elected. he would do so much better on the issues that are "important" to you.. ehh? You make that stand.. yeah right.
To: votelife
"Being Hispanic for us means much more than having a surname," said New Jersey Rep. Bob Menendez, a member of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus. "It means having some relationship with the reality of what it is to live in this country as a Hispanic American.""Being White for us means much more than having a surname," said California Rep. Dumpster Diver, a member of the Congressional White Caucus. "It means having some relationship with the reality of what it is to live in this country as a White American."
To: Sloth
Come on at least be honest...
Souter -- appointed by a Republican Bush
O'Connor -- appointed by a Republican Reagan
Stevens -- appointed by a Republican Ford
Kennedy -- appointed by a Republican Reagan
Why that liberal Reagan! I can't believe any conservative ever voted for him!/sarcasm
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posted on
01/29/2004 12:12:06 PM PST
by
WinOne4TheGipper
(Appease "my-way-or-the-highway" conservatives. Build new roads.)
To: Digger
...We know what the dems will do according to those memos from the dem but YOUR republicans will NOT fight to expose them. Why?..
Because they know that "100% or nothing" conservatives like you will abandon them for one reason or another anyway. Always have, always will.
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posted on
01/29/2004 12:12:17 PM PST
by
CMAC51
To: Blood of Tyrants
There are two good political reasons why Bush hasn't done anything with regards to his judges. First, its a convenient bloody shirt to wave in front of the base as is being done now - "VOTE DUBYA SO THOSE JUDGES WILL GET IN!" If he were to go all out and get them installed, conservatives wouldn't feel as threatened. Second if Bush were to actively engage the Rats on his judges, all those legislative goodies which he needs to distribute before the election would be held up in the Senate.
Good for Bush. Bad for the country.
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posted on
01/29/2004 12:12:26 PM PST
by
KantianBurke
(Principles, not blind loyalty)
To: votelife
I'm not voting for him anyways!
I'm sure Kerry could get his nominees through. The GOP doesn't have the courage to filibuster nominees. Ol' Trent Lott is gone, and if Hatch & Co. want to continue down the appeasement road, well, they can, and they'll kill themselves politically.
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posted on
01/29/2004 12:13:17 PM PST
by
StoneColdGOP
(McClintock - In Your Heart, You Know He's Right)
To: capitan_refugio
When those four nominations (not "appointments") were made United States Constitution, Article II, Section 2: "...and he shall nominate, and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, shall appoint Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, Judges of the supreme Court, and all other Officers of the United States..."
Your knowledge of civics is breathtaking.
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posted on
01/29/2004 12:14:03 PM PST
by
Sloth
(Why fight foreign enemies if we are surrendering to the domestic ones?)
To: sasafras
Its the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine -- If I elect a liberal by default so be it - I hope the RNC/GOP is listening because I am not alone. We'll see who flinches first.
My children who will have to live out their lives under socialist judicial tyranny thank you.
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posted on
01/29/2004 12:14:34 PM PST
by
CMAC51
To: StoneColdGOP
What do you think the Senate will do? Rubber stamp any appointment a Dem makes? (OK... yeah some) 3 Words
Ruth Bader Gisberg.
Rubberstamped.
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posted on
01/29/2004 12:15:03 PM PST
by
NeoCaveman
(John Kerry replaces Nancy Pelosi as the botox babe of the Democrat Party)
To: looscnnn
Give me Frist's job and I will raise some serious h*ll in Congress, I will get everybody's attention and put some backbone back in the GOP. Go for it. If someone was doing it now everyone who wants to retire from the SC can do it and no one will whine about not getting the kind of judges they want.
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posted on
01/29/2004 12:16:04 PM PST
by
StoneColdGOP
(McClintock - In Your Heart, You Know He's Right)
To: votelife
I'm with you, votelife. Your screen name says it all. God bless President Bush.
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posted on
01/29/2004 12:16:06 PM PST
by
Faith
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