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O'Reilly vs. DNC: Who's telling the truth?
townhall.com ^ | 1/28/04 | Ben Shapiro

Posted on 01/27/2004 10:06:33 PM PST by kattracks

Last year was the year for political book wars. The three top-selling political non-fiction books were Hillary Clinton's "Living History," followed by Al Franken's "Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them," and then Bill O'Reilly's "Who's Looking Out For You?" O'Reilly has touted the book-sales races on his television program, radio show and Web site.

 The competition between O'Reilly's book and Clinton's book has become a major issue for O'Reilly. On NBC's "Today," O'Reilly stated, "We're running against Hillary for most copies of non-fiction books sold this year." On Dec. 16, O'Reilly touted the sales race on the FoxNews.com Web site, saying that "we've got a real shot at overtaking Mrs. Clinton ... Ridiculous? Only if you're rooting for her."

 O'Reilly has alleged that Clinton's book-sales numbers are inflated by bulk sales to the Democratic National Committee. On FoxNews.com, on Nov. 7, O'Reilly wrote: "Word is the DNC has purchased thousands of copies of Hillary Clinton's book." On his Web site, on Jan. 12, O'Reilly labeled "Hillary's sales" the "Most Ridiculous Item of the Day." "Right now, after a little more than three months, 'Who's Looking Out For You?' has sold about 800,000 copies ... Senator Clinton's book, as far as we can determine (and information is hard to come by), has sold about 1.1 million copies. However, the Democratic National Committee has bought a ton of copies -- and it's giving them away in exchange for donations," O'Reilly wrote.

 O'Reilly has also jumped into the fray with Al Franken's "Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them." On "Today," he said, "We've outsold that guy all over the place." Matt Drudge immediately posted Nielsen BookScan statistics contradicting O'Reilly's assertions. "Nielsen, the same company that ranks O'Reilly No. 1 on Cable TV, currently places O'Reilly at No. 6 for the year on the non-fiction charts -- trailing rival Al Franken by nearly 30 percent!" he wrote on DrudgeReport.com.

 O'Reilly fired back by quoting Nielsen vice president of sales and services Jim King, who said Nielsen had put Drudge on notice regarding his unlicensed use of BookScan numbers. O'Reilly wrote this on his Web site: "So let's sum it up, folks: The 'irrefutable source' that Drudge cited in bashing Bill ... is telling Drudge: 1) It's not irrefutable; 2) it undercounts book sales by as much as 35 percent; 3) don't publish the list on your site again."

 O'Reilly alleges that Franken's book sales are inflated because of bulk buys, especially bulk buys from the Democratic National Committee. According to O'Reilly, Tony Welch, DNC press secretary, refused to answer specific questions about the number of "smear books" the DNC has bought. "A political party jacking up book sales of dubious people is bad enough," O'Reilly wrote on Nov. 7 on the FoxNews Web site, "but using the publishing industry to advance political power is disgraceful."

 I spoke with Welch by telephone on Sunday afternoon. He disputed O'Reilly's allegations about Hillary Clinton's "Living History" and denied that the DNC bought any copies of her book. Welch also said that the DNC had in fact made bulk buys of what O'Reilly terms "smear books" and confirmed that such practice is typical. He claims the bulk buys for each book were less than 1,500.

 O'Reilly's book publicist at Broadway Books could not be reached for comment.

 Bulk buys of liberal books are certainly common. The American Prowler reported in June 2003 that Hillary Clinton told Democratic Senate colleagues and other groups that if they wanted her to appear at fund-raisers, they would have to buy copies of her book "in bulk for free distribution at the event" or make her book "available for purchase while she is in attendance." O'Reilly claims that five Web sites, including the DNC, are buying "smear books" in bulk.

 Either O'Reilly's information is unfounded and his claims regarding Hillary Clinton and Al Franken are incorrect, or the DNC is lying. Either way, someone isn't telling the truth. Who is it?

©2003 Creators Syndicate, Inc.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: booksales; dnc; oreilly
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1 posted on 01/27/2004 10:06:33 PM PST by kattracks
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To: kattracks

You want the truth?
You can't handle the truth?

2 posted on 01/27/2004 10:15:43 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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To: kattracks
For about three weeks now, O'Reilly has said, "next week we'll give you the final sales numbers". I won't hold my breath.

I guess he's taking his time so he can SPIN the numbers because he lost.
3 posted on 01/27/2004 10:18:51 PM PST by Fledermaus (Democrats are just not capable of defending our nation's security. It's that simple!)
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To: kattracks
Can't he just give it up? I am tired of him pontificating about his book sales, like it is the Holy Grail or something. Rush with his books beat both O'Reilly and Hillary in sales. So top that!
O'Reilly really has become a loudmouth boor, it's about all I can do to watch him the whole hour anymore.
If I had a really good altenative to him I would watch, but there isn't one.
I would rather catch Chris Matthews and watch some of his show.
4 posted on 01/27/2004 10:23:56 PM PST by Captain Peter Blood
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To: kattracks
" or the DNC is lying " Uh, catch them telling the truth before giving them the benefit of an or!
5 posted on 01/27/2004 10:24:08 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: kattracks
Somebody needs to tell O'Reilly that he's the only one who cares.

Beyond that, if he wants to get into a you-know-what measuring contest with Hillary!, he'd lose!

LOL @ myself...guffaw...tutter...chuckle
6 posted on 01/27/2004 10:27:18 PM PST by jra
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To: jra
LOL @ myself...guffaw...tutter...chuckle

he,he...

7 posted on 01/27/2004 10:32:11 PM PST by marvlus
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To: jra
double-strike! brilliant...
8 posted on 01/27/2004 10:32:30 PM PST by teech (You can read this: thank your teachers. You're FREE to read this: thank our Veterans.)
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To: kattracks
It is time for Rush's third book.

9 posted on 01/27/2004 10:34:18 PM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: jra
>>Beyond that, if he wants to get into a you-know-what measuring contest with Hillary!, he'd lose!

That's be cause Bill is her um...uh...well, you-know-what.

:)
10 posted on 01/27/2004 10:34:39 PM PST by Keith in Iowa (The only good news for Democrats is they could save $$ by switching to Geico.)
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To: Fledermaus
For about three weeks now, O'Reilly has said, "next week we'll give you the final sales numbers". I won't hold my breath.

I'm sure Talking Points is working on that right now.

11 posted on 01/27/2004 10:36:11 PM PST by RWR8189 (Its Morning in America Again!)
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To: jra
Matt Drudge immediately posted Nielsen BookScan statistics contradicting O'Reilly's assertions.

I agree with you, no one but O'Reilly cares whether HRC sells more books than him. I like that Drudge contradicted him, and fast.

12 posted on 01/27/2004 10:38:36 PM PST by unsycophant
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To: unsycophant
If hilary has an appearance it is with the condition that her book has to be purchased by attendees.
13 posted on 01/27/2004 10:52:05 PM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: kattracks
this is a dumb argument for o'reilly to be in the middle of
15 posted on 01/28/2004 12:13:43 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of It!!)
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To: Paleo Conservative
o'reilly against the dnc? hmmm, whom to root for? Can't pull for a rat, can't pull for THE rat. This is kinda like the iran iraq war - whom to root for? hmmm I like what harry truman used to say: "When people are given the choice to vote for a real Republican or a fake one, they vote for the real one." Based on real vs fake I'll root for the dnc.
16 posted on 01/28/2004 6:34:27 AM PST by jmaroneps37 ( lurch and teddy perfect together!)
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To: Rumsfeld2004
I had no idea he was on the radio too. Thankfully.
17 posted on 01/28/2004 10:07:19 AM PST by unsycophant
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To: Captain Peter Blood
If I had a really good altenative to him I would watch, but there isn't one.

I can suggest a few good books. Alternately, watch history channel or reruns.

Having the self proclaimed geniuses tell me what to think is boring beyond imagination.

18 posted on 01/28/2004 10:48:32 AM PST by Protagoras (When they asked me what I thought of freedom in America,,, I said I thought it would be a good idea.)
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To: Captain Peter Blood
I turned O'Reilly off when he started calling me "the folks". Gimme a break!
19 posted on 01/28/2004 10:50:27 AM PST by Tricorn
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FoxFan ping!

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20 posted on 01/28/2004 2:59:23 PM PST by nutmeg (What happens at CPAC stays at CPAC!)
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