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Top 10 Lists: Ten Wars You Should Worry About
strategypage.com ^ | January 23, 2004 | Q & D Headlines

Posted on 01/23/2004 9:44:09 PM PST by Destro

Top 10 Lists: Ten Wars You Should Worry About

January 23, 2004; Ten Wars You Should Worry About; With several dozen wars going on around the world at the moment, it's difficult to pin down the ten most in need of our attention. So we provide two top ten lists. One lists the wars that are most likely to be of concern to Americans. The second list ranks the wars in order of the local mayhem they create. Let us not forget that, for those caught in the middle of a war, that war is the worst war imaginable.

Wars That Matter Most (or should) to Americans

1 - The War on Terror. Al Qaeda is trying real hard to bring this war home to Americans. That they have not succeeded since September 11, 2001 has a lot to do with the energetic activities of American armed forces and police organizations. Al Qaeda didn't expect their bases in Afghanistan to be gone by the end of 2001. Nor did they expect that their members would be quickly and energetically hounded world wide. The Persian Gulf remained a sanctuary, until early 2003, when Iraq was invaded. This invasion attracted al Qaeda members, who came to Iraq by the hundreds, Most of these fanatics got themselves killed or arrested. Al Qaeda followers in Saudi Arabia decided to take on the Saudi royal family. That move, along with the shock of Saddam Hussein's rapid defeat, made the Persian Gulf a much less hospitable place for al Qaeda. But the organization, and its thousands of followers, survives. Al Qaeda was organized, unintentionally, like the Internet. Al Qaeda has no central headquarters or base. It’s members are scattered in cells all over the planet. You can destroy many parts of al Qaeda, and the organization will reconfigure itself. Al Qaeda members are still trying to pull off spectacular attacks against the "enemies of Islam" (which basically includes everyone who isn't a Moslem.) It will probably take a generation for al Qaeda to fade into utter impotence. In the meantime, the War on Terror will be a low level war that always has the potential to show up in any Americans home town.

2 - Israeli-Palestinian Conflict. Radicals on both sides make peace difficult to achieve. The low level war has been going on since late 2000 and the violence has only been receding in the past year. The conflict is a much hotter issue in the Arab and Islamic world. Now that Pakistan has nuclear weapons, and a government full of Islamic conservatives that supports the use of terrorism against infidels (non-Moslems), the stakes have been vastly increased. Israel has over a hundred nuclear warheads, as well as missiles, aircraft and submarine launched cruise missiles to deliver them with. Nuclear war over who controls what real estate between the Mediterranean and the Jordan River is not the biggest problem for America, it's the years of diplomatic problems arising from Islamic nations accusing us of being the cause of it all. It's presumed that the Israelis are Americas puppets, and a few sharp words from Washington would straighten everything out. The myth of unlimited American power is a global one, but nowhere is it taken more literally than in Arab nations. Getting the Israelis and Palestinians to make peace would solve a lot of America's problems.

3 - North Korea. This is the last, heavily armed, Stalinist police state left on the planet. North Korea not only threatens our ally South Korea, but our major trading partner; Japan and a very nervous Russia and China. The U.S. can't easily walk away from this one. Everyone is hoping that North Korea will fall apart gently, as the communist governments did in Eastern Europe in 1989, but there's a good chance that North Korea will come apart with much pain and blood. Meanwhile, North Korea continues to make and sell weapons to anyone with cash. They have not sold anyone chemical weapons, as far as anyone knows. But they have said they would sell nuclear weapons once they figure out how to make them.

4 – Iraq. While it only took three weeks to conquer the country, it is uncertain how long it will take to pacify the Sunni Arab population that (mis)ruled the place for so long. The Kurds and Shia Arabs account for 80 percent of the population and are generally peaceful and either pro-American, or not particularly hostile towards the United States. This year the United States is turning control of the country back to the Iraqis. The Sunni Arab minority will again be an Iraqi problem. There will still be American troops in Iraq, and for how long no one knows.

5 - Chechen War. Russia is still a superpower in terms of nuclear weapons, and is still a polyglot nation. The Chechens are the most troublesome of Russia's many minorities. Chechnya is also something of a special case. The Chechens have always been very entrepreneurial, and violent, and this resulted in an independent Chechnya that quickly turned into a safe haven for criminal gangs and Islamic radicals. This brought the Russian army back in and the war has been grinding on since '99. After September 11, 2001, it was noted that a lot of al Qaeda members were Chechens. Think of Chechnya as a little Afghanistan, where the "Taliban" are still very active (at least compared to the real Afghanistan.)

6 – South Asian Islamic Radicals. This is more than the long standing Indo-Pakistani conflict over Kashmir. Pakistan is the only Moslem nation with nukes, along with a goodly supply of homegrown religious fundamentalists. We don't want a nuclear war in South Asia, and we don't want Pakistan sharing its nuclear secrets with hostile Moslem states or sects. We don't want Pakistan providing shelter for al Qaeda and Taliban fighters. Unfortunately, what we have got is a Pakistan that is mired in corruption, tribalism, religious strife and Islamic radicalism. The Islamic angle is a relatively recent one, which grew in popularity over the last decade as a cure for all of Pakistan's other ills. Now Islamic radicalism is just another problem, having failed to cure any of the others. But the Islamic solution still has a lot of fans in Pakistan, and they support the radicals fighting throughout south Asia.

7 - Greater Albania. Peacekeeping in Kosovo has not stopped locals from organizing, arming and training troops for expanding Albanian control into Serbia and Macedonia. American troops are there, along with NATO contingents, trying to keep it all from exploding into another war. Most Albanians are Moslems, and in the middle of all this, there is Bosnia, populated by many foreign Moslems who support al Qaeda.

8 - Colombia. This is the major source of hard drugs coming into the United States. Colombia has also had constant rebellions and civil unrest for the last fifty years. The drug lords and their leftist rebel armies are moving into other Latin American nations because a new Colombian government is getting the upper hand. Thousands of American troops and civilians are actively involved helping the government.

9 - Taiwan Straits. All of America's Asian allies are concerned about China's growing military power, and diplomatic aggressiveness. There is also an economic angle, for Taiwan produces critical percentages of key electronic components. So any actual, or attempted, Chinese takeover is dangerous because of the potential economic danger to U.S. high tech industries. There is also the reputation issue. Taiwan and America have been allies for over fifty years. To abandon an ally like that would not help U.S. relations elsewhere. So if the Chinese push, America is likely to find itself in the line of fire. And don't forget, China and Taiwan ("The Republic of China") are still technically at war.

10 – Iran. Before al Qaeda, there was Iran. Since 1979, Iran has been at war with Israel and the United States. Not willing to risk military retaliation from the United States, Iran has concentrated on supporting terrorist organizations in Lebanon and supporting attacks against Israel. After seeing what happened to Iraq and Saddam, the Iranian Islamic radicals are even more keen on not antagonizing the United States. But Iran continues to host a large number of Islamic terrorist organizations. Fortunately, Iranians belong to the Shia sect of Islam, and are thus not likely to work too closely with al Qaeda. This is because al Qaeda is largely composed of Sunni Moslems of the Wahabi sect (which is quite hostile to Shia Moslems). Iranian Shia radicals and al Qaeda Wahabi will often grit their teeth and cooperate against common enemies. But such arrangements are tenuous and, well, not quite natural.

Most Violent Wars

These are the wars that generate the most casualties and mayhem.

1 – Korea. As the extent of starvation and general brutality becomes better known, this conflict between the government of North Korea and its people goes to the top of the list. In the last decade, over a million North Koreans have been killed by their government. This sort of thing is called democide, and North Korea is currently the most vigorous practitioner.

2 - Sudan. You don't see much of this on TV because it's pretty dangerous even for journalists. Raids, battles, sieges, slaving, a regular medieval misery of mayhem. While peace has been made in the south, another rebellion has broken out in the western part of the country.

3 - Congo. While this war is also winding down, the large number of armed men wandering around the countryside, killing and pillaging as they go, keeps the death toll high.

4 - India and Pakistan. The two countries are holding peace talks, but the killing still goes on in Kashmir, and in several other rebellions and local disputes. It adds up to hundreds killed each month.

5 – Indonesia. Major military operations in separatist Aceh province, and fighting between Christians and Moslems in several areas.

6 - War on Terror. This is the collective casualties among the terrorists who associated them selves with al Qaeda and those that actively oppose them. That is, Islamic radicals who are making war on the "enemies of Islam". Lately, most of the casualties have occurred in Saudi Arabia and Iraq, although there have been some in Europe and Asia.

7 - Colombia. The government has made peace with the right wing militias, and is on the offensive against the left wing armies. The leftist groups have begun a bombing campaign in the cities.

8 – Iraq. Casualties are covered intensively by the media, making the action appear a lot more violent than it actually is. Now that the extent of Saddam Hussein's police state violence is known, the monthly death toll is probably lower now than when Saddam was running things.

9 - Chechnya. This has turned into a civil war, with the pro-Russian Chechen government fighting the various criminal, nationalist and Islamic groups. Most of the dead are Chechen, despite over 50,000 Russian troops and police in the area. Some of the casualties are in neighboring regions, as the Chechen rebels try to use terror to get the Russians to leave.

10 - Afghanistan. The death toll is not much different than it was before the Taliban were overthrown. Many of the casualties are caused by tribal or personal disputes, although some of these are also related to Taliban and al Qaeda activities.


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To: Destro
1 - The War on Terror. Al Qaeda is trying real hard to bring this war home to Americans. That they have not succeeded since September 11, 2001 has a lot to do with the energetic activities of American armed forces and police organizations.

In the meantime, there have been some "lone nut" Islamofascist attacks on America since 9.11.2001 even if the body count has been minimal. We've had Charles Bishop/Bishra who called his acts terrorist in his suicide note and pledged his support to bin Laden. We've had the shoe bomber who was stopped on the airline before he was able to commit his evil deed. We've had the DC sniper duo. We've had the shooting at the LAX counter.

There may have been more hope for a mass uprising against America than actually followed through but some Islamofascists did commit themselves to the movement.

We've also had a plane blow up mysteriously on take off and an anthrax murder case that is still unsolved.

Internationally there have been bombings targeted as allies of the United States in the war effort. America has been spared the brunt of the attacks but that is due in part to diligence and also in part due to our resolve.

21 posted on 01/23/2004 11:05:15 PM PST by weegee
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To: weegee
When a Muslim leader clals for a jihad in a fatwa all Muslims nust head the call. So once that call goes out it means even non al-Qaeda Muslims have to heed the call. That is the dread of the jihad fatwam, because criminals, the insane and suicidal get excuses to act out their mania for Allah. This little known fact allows the feds to lie to our face and say the DC Sniper Muslims were not acting as terrorists when in fact the call of jihad was prime motivator.
22 posted on 01/23/2004 11:09:23 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
Are there only 22 conflicts in the world? There may be more than you realize (not to dispute your figure but that number seems very very small).

Even Beleize and Guatamala don't get along.

23 posted on 01/23/2004 11:09:34 PM PST by weegee
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To: Destro
We even had domestic attacks prior to 9.11.2001. The World Trade Center was bombed in 1993 and there was a sniper outside the CIA headquarters shooting agents. There may be other incidents but there doesn't seem much interest at large tying them all to the same motivator (Islamofascism).
24 posted on 01/23/2004 11:12:11 PM PST by weegee
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To: weegee
but there doesn't seem much interest at large tying them all to the same motivator (Islamofascism).

One of the biggest surprises for me was how little outrage Americans expressed over this refusal to link the motivator by our leaders. The conclusion I drew is that our institutions want the people stupid and sheep like.

25 posted on 01/23/2004 11:17:36 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Destro
This sort of thing is called democide

Eh. Someone has been reading Rummel. See here. I believe it was R. J. Rummel at the University of Hawaii who coined this term. His site is a broad and deep resource on this kind of thing.

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F

26 posted on 01/23/2004 11:18:04 PM PST by Criminal Number 18F
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To: Destro
Religion of Peace alert. Korea is not yet a war, and calling the drug trade a war is questionable. ALL THE REST ARE ISLAM.

If you understand that Islam is Empire not Nations, then you see there really is only one war.

So we could boil this down to Do we want to fight the Jihad back, or surrender.

27 posted on 01/23/2004 11:37:01 PM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Destro
don't forget war in Southern Philippines - Muslim Moro's against Christian Philippinos.
28 posted on 01/23/2004 11:39:09 PM PST by XBob
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To: claptrap
Which should I do to do cart wheels or handstands?

Try handstands...more blood and oxygen will get to your brain.

Who knows, it may help.

29 posted on 01/23/2004 11:46:00 PM PST by New Horizon (Why build one, when you can build two at twice the price?)
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To: weegee
We've also had a plane two planes blow up mysteriously on take off and an a few anthrax murder case cases a that is are still unsolved.
30 posted on 01/23/2004 11:52:41 PM PST by New Horizon (Why build one, when you can build two at twice the price?)
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To: nopardons; claptrap
What you should do, is to stop seeing the Second Coming in this.

How about in Israel having control of Jerusalem again? How about the unprecedented number of comets, and eclipses of the moon and sun? How about the rise of the world against the Jews in Jerusalem and the attempts to divide or move the boundaries of Jerusalem? I figure those are all much better signs as they are of the end, not just of His coming.

The wars and rumors of wars, the way knowledge will increase and the running to and fro over the surface of the earth prophecy was that the time is drawing near, the ones I listed are of the time IS here.

31 posted on 01/24/2004 12:05:17 AM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: American in Israel
People have been saying exactly that,since Jesus rose from the tomb.

The Bible also says that " NO MAN SHALL KNOW ".

There hasn't been an " unprecedented " number of comets or eclipses.

How about a lot of things...LOL

32 posted on 01/24/2004 12:23:39 AM PST by nopardons
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To: Doctor Stochastic
It makes the article seem less well researched.

Its got some errors in it. One is the false belief that Israel is America's puppet, in the arab world, the belief is the other way around. Another thing, is that North Korea does claim to have Nukes, and wants to make more. As for the Kurds and Shia's being pro-american or not hostile. The kurds, he's right on, but the Shia's, alot of, but not most, want America to leave, so they can take over the country and alot of them are itching for a Iranian style government. Not every attacker has been a Sunni.

On the Chechens, he's wrong, yes there are alot of islamic radicals fighting there, but ironically, most Chechens are pretty secular, violent, but secular, but they will take help from whereever they can get it. They're your basic separitist. Even in some muslim country's, you have separatists who want to break away. Its kind of funny, Mohammad always wanted one united islamic empire.

33 posted on 01/24/2004 1:06:45 AM PST by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: nopardons
No problem, my guess is you are not waiting His return, so why should you care about the signs. For myself I am pretty excited. I get a kick out of watching 4000 year old prophecys being fufilled, like Eze 34-37, Isa 14 and Zep 2.

The are not about Christs return, they are about the West Bank, and the comming nuclear war in the Middle East. Many people have wanted to see these days, I get to be here for some or all of it.

Exciting times indeed! Not fun times, but can't have everything.
34 posted on 01/24/2004 1:20:16 AM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: American in Israel
You can't guess your way out of a paper bag.

I'm certainly NOT a " Rapturists ", but yes, I am looking forward to the Second Coming.

That you claim to be looking forward to being in the eye of a nuclear war in the Middle East,makes me wonder even more about YOU !

35 posted on 01/24/2004 1:23:53 AM PST by nopardons
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To: American in Israel
(2 Pet 3:3 NKJV) knowing this first: that scoffers will come in the last days, walking according to their own lusts,(2 Pet 3:4 NKJV) and saying, "Where is the promise of His coming? For since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of creation."

36 posted on 01/24/2004 2:55:15 AM PST by razorbak
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To: nopardons
Judge a tree by its fruit is not a guess.
37 posted on 01/24/2004 8:10:12 AM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: weegee
Are there only 22 conflicts in the world? There may be more than you realize (not to dispute your figure but that number seems very very small).

I was talking about major armed conflicts. Most guerilla insurgencies don't qualify -- although many of them may involve agitation by Muslims against Non-Muslims.

38 posted on 01/24/2004 8:27:58 AM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham ("...the right of THE PEOPLE to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.")
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